NA and EU Debate

I have not expected the EU to dominate NA if I am going to be all honest. The teams have never faced each other, the game is still quite new, and it is the first LAN tournament, so this tournament is very random and the team with better individual performance probably going to take this tournament and it wouldn't surprise me if Sentinels take it.

However, as time will go, the EU will dominate and completely take over the scene, as they always did, due to our different approach to the games and structure of our teams, we will dominate strat-wise and teamwise the server till the point where individual skill will be nice to win couple rounds, but not the entire series.

Mark my words :]

People are being very negative with fnatic they played well it was a close series. I think they can come back in lowers

i hope fnatic will win against liquid in the lower, bcs clearly yesterday fnatic was the better team against the NA teams

mAko [#3]

i hope fnatic will win against liquid in the lower, bcs clearly yesterday fnatic was the better team against the NA teams

Honestly, Fnatic seems the better team in general. Liquid in the Grand Finals of the EMEA Playoffs was a case of just being better on the day in my opinion. Boaster is ready for a lower bracket run I'm sure.

Honestly, I think FNC was scared and overthinking, hopefully, they learn from this and do a lower bracket run and meet SEN in the finals.

"tournament is random" nope, Sentinels have been #1 for like a year.

EU will definitely win in the long run for sure but asia will be a strong contender although NA's latest talents like chaos and teams like V1 and whatnot should keepup their hardwork. also tournament is not random lmfao such a bad excuse find another excuse.

The copium levels are off the charts

iNSANE [#10]

If you need to call dominance that they won 2 matches in whole history and first international LAN EVER that just shows who is the delusional one LOL.

?? V1 shit on ur best team and sen 2-0'd LMFAO that is complete dominance.

iNSANE [#10]

If you need to call dominance that they won 2 matches in whole history and first international LAN EVER that just shows who is the delusional one LOL.

cmon man just let them enjoy their moment,they havent felt the joy of their region actually being good at a game in their life

Ryzen_ [#4]

Honestly, Fnatic seems the better team in general. Liquid in the Grand Finals of the EMEA Playoffs was a case of just being better on the day in my opinion. Boaster is ready for a lower bracket run I'm sure.

Fnatic definitely looks like the more structured team. Liquid depends a lot whether or not their aim is 100 percent on point.

mauge67 [#12]

cmon man just let them enjoy their moment,they havent felt the joy of their region actually being good at a game in their life

they were good at fortnite i think 😂

FireII [#14]

they were good at fortnite i think 😂

and better at Overwatch, now valorant

dignityx3 [#15]

and better at Overwatch, now valorant

It's about time NA won something, they've been getting shit on in CS for what, like 8+ years now? 2 majors won in 8 years what a joke of a region.

wraithh [#16]

It's about time NA won something, they've been getting shit on in CS for what, like 8+ years now? 2 majors won in 8 years what a joke of a region.

lol nice that its the only esport ur good at u ape, na still super strong at valorant ow and r6

NA is so goo.. wait let me take my breath

dignityx3 [#11]

?? V1 shit on ur best team and sen 2-0'd LMFAO that is complete dominance.

best teams in EU are chilling after the "Big choke" xd. Liquid was knocked out right in the second round of all 1st stage events in challengers EU. 2 months ago they were losing against tier 3 teams in the scene and getting destroyed by turkish teams during scrims, them winning emea was a miracle. Fnatic are way better than Liquid but this roster has been playing together for a short amount of time, no way they were beating sentinels, they still put a good fight tho so Im proud :)

dignityx3 [#17]

lol nice that its the only esport ur good at u ape, na still super strong at valorant ow and r6

You're embarassing the more you talk pal, literal copium overdose

wraithh [#16]

It's about time NA won something, they've been getting shit on in CS for what, like 8+ years now? 2 majors won in 8 years what a joke of a region.

I think you forgot that the grand slam winning liquid existed?

Netero [#6]

"tournament is random" nope, Sentinels have been #1 for like a year.

Very very true, and this coming from a 100t fan

wraithh [#18]

NA is so goo.. wait let me take my breath

lmao eu fanboys still can't say that NA is good even after yesterday

beb0p [#21]

I think you forgot that the grand slam winning liquid existed?

Never mentioned grand slams pal, I'm talking about majors, but good attempt. Keep trying.

Daniveus [#19]

best teams in EU are chilling after the "Big choke" xd. Liquid was knocked out right in the second round of all 1st stage events in challengers EU. 2 months ago they were losing against tier 3 teams in the scene and getting destroyed by turkish teams during scrims, them winning emea was a miracle. Fnatic are way better than Liquid but this roster has been playing together for a short amount of time, no way they were beating sentinels, they still put a good fight tho so Im proud :)

nah, fnc are not better than liquid.

wraithh [#20]

You're embarassing the more you talk pal, literal copium overdose

ur the only one coping tho?

beb0p [#23]

lmao eu fanboys still can't say that NA is good even after yesterday

you're a weeb, everything you say has no value.

wraithh [#27]

you're a weeb, everything you say has no value.

you are actually delusional if you still think that NA is shit at valorant bro, it's time you got a reality check

dignityx3 [#25]

nah, fnc are not better than liquid.

fnc are way better than liquid, much more consistent, it's obvious just watching them play. That's y most EU analysts said that Fnc would win the tourney and not liquid even though liquid beat them in the finals

Daniveus [#29]

fnc are way better than liquid, much more consistent, it's obvious just watching them play. That's y most EU analysts said that Fnc would win the tourney and not liquid even though liquid beat them in the finals

nope, not at all. liquid beat them in bo5. fnc would lose to v1.

dignityx3 [#30]

nope, not at all. liquid beat them in bo5. fnc would lose to v1.

fnatic should have easily won icebox and split they didnt have time to prepare. Fnatic's biggest weakness is their map pool but individually and tactically they are much stronger. As I said before, this fnatic roster has been together for less than 2 months and they had a tournament to play right after they couldn't prepare for every map

I am quite curious as to what vikings will bring in . some brazilian dudes were saying they were hiding strats and stuff like V1.

Daniveus [#31]

fnatic should have easily won icebox and split they didnt have time to prepare. Fnatic's biggest weakness is their map pool but individually and tactically they are much stronger. As I said before, this fnatic roster has been together for less than 2 months and they had a tournament to play right after they couldn't prepare for every map

stfu fnatic are not better lmao stop making excuses. liquid is better for sure

dignityx3 [#33]

stfu fnatic are not better lmao stop making excuses. liquid is better for sure

they just aren't bruh

I mean, we will see at the end of tournament tho.

Daniveus [#34]

they just aren't bruh

they r

dignityx3 [#36]

they r

xd

dignityx3 [#36]

they r

I have never seen such a more stubborn, ignorant and dense 0iq person on this forum, either a troll or you're a child

Gomes255 [#38]

I have never seen such a more stubborn, ignorant and dense 0iq person on this forum, either a troll or you're a child

stfu stupid bitch lmfao what im saying is literally factual and ur too mad to accept it u fucking 0 iq beta cuck caveman brain

dignityx3 [#17]

lol nice that its the only esport ur good at u ape, na still super strong at valorant ow and r6

Na is decent in r6 and overwatch not super strong hahaha

dignityx3 [#39]

stfu stupid bitch lmfao what im saying is literally factual and ur too mad to accept it u fucking 0 iq beta cuck caveman brain

i mean, sentinel may be the best team right now, but this is fact :
Fnatic is the best EU team in Reikjavik, by far.
I mean, Liquid, they are ok good, but i (and i'm pretty sure i'm not alone) would have prefer Gambit or FPX to represent EU alongside FNC.

Unfortunately, Liquid looks like a fluke team, and yesterday we just saw that good old liquid a.k.a scream 1v5...

hapi [#41]

i mean, sentinel may be the best team right now, but this is fact :
Fnatic is the best EU team in Reikjavik, by far.
I mean, Liquid, they are ok good, but i (and i'm pretty sure i'm not alone) would have prefer Gambit or FPX to represent EU alongside FNC.

Unfortunately, Liquid looks like a fluke team, and yesterday we just saw that good old liquid a.k.a scream 1v5...

its not a fact at all. fnc would've lost to v1 as well lol.. liquid is still better than fnc

hapi [#41]

i mean, sentinel may be the best team right now, but this is fact :
Fnatic is the best EU team in Reikjavik, by far.
I mean, Liquid, they are ok good, but i (and i'm pretty sure i'm not alone) would have prefer Gambit or FPX to represent EU alongside FNC.

Unfortunately, Liquid looks like a fluke team, and yesterday we just saw that good old liquid a.k.a scream 1v5...

but i definitely think that gambit deserved a spot in this masters as a CIS region.

Nothing valid could be said before this tournament really. Good matches so far!

beb0p [#21]

I think you forgot that the grand slam winning liquid existed?

at least get some facts if you smell behind PC 24/7 :D
I am sure you are still a virgin :D

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dignityx3 [#11]

?? V1 shit on ur best team and sen 2-0'd LMFAO that is complete dominance.

The best teams in EU are not even in the tournament lmfao

Gurggu [#46]

The best teams in EU are not even in the tournament lmfao

just stfu, best teams in EU are fnc and liquid and they are in the toureny.

Gurggu [#46]

The best teams in EU are not even in the tournament lmfao

excuses, excuses, excuses, eu fanboys OMEGALUL

slartibartfast [#44]

Nothing valid could be said before this tournament really. Good matches so far!

So true! I'm from NA and I watched EU to see that the NA teams so far have exploited the weaknesses of Fnatic and Liquid. I think in the coming rematches that will not be the case.

beb0p [#48]

excuses, excuses, excuses, eu fanboys OMEGALUL

yall mad cuz ur best teams had close game with EU's top 5

dignityx3 [#39]

stfu stupid bitch lmfao what im saying is literally factual and ur too mad to accept it u fucking 0 iq beta cuck caveman brain

Aww poor child got mad lmao

Most people did not expect NA to perform so well (at least V1 after their first game) and EU were heavy favorites. EU is super top heavy and 85% of people still think they're the best region. Version1 beat Liquid because liquid failed to adapt to the new meta and got out util-ed. SEN and Fnatic are the 2 best teams in the world right now (by far imo, maybe FPX could be there too if they didnt always choke) and SEN won the coin toss. However, saying that the results are all random is a very brainless take that implies you're not actually watching the games or following the scene. SEN have been on top for ages now. Fnatic has been less consistent but with their new(ish) roster changes they look to be a top contender in Europe for a long time coming. The best teams will stay at the top. Those who adapt will stay at the top. Teams like Liquid who didn't adapt got dominated tactically and lost even though they had better players. Even though I'd say EU is better overall, NA's best > EU's best.

ntnoob [#40]

Na is decent in r6 and overwatch not super strong hahaha

We are nutty at COD. Wait. We're the only ones who play that? Freedom land on top

dignityx3 [#26]

ur the only one coping tho?

dude shut up you're embarassing NA

streamratings [#54]

dude shut up you're embarassing NA

stfu

Mdkns [#2]

People are being very negative with fnatic they played well it was a close series. I think they can come back in lowers

FNC will def make it to Lower Finals, the lower bracket rn is weak af compared to them

dignityx3 [#39]

stfu stupid bitch lmfao what im saying is literally factual and ur too mad to accept it u fucking 0 iq beta cuck caveman brain

take your meds

EU dominates the burger region in literally every game worth mentioning. I don't see why this trend would be different in Valorant. But let the burgers have their moment of glory.

5pw423yjmv2 [#59]

EU dominates the burger region in literally every game worth mentioning. I don't see why this trend would be different in Valorant. But let the burgers have their moment of glory.

malding eu fan found OMEGALUL

beb0p [#60]

malding eu fan found OMEGALUL

In CS:GO, LoL, Dota 2 (other games apart from Valorant are irrelevant) burgers are just total dogshit. This makes sense since the whole country is a fucking shitshow lmao

Gurggu [#50]

yall mad cuz ur best teams had close game with EU's top 5

eu lost against a team with a stand in. maybe go back to the drawing board

astra is overrated.....good one eu

mAko [#3]

i hope fnatic will win against liquid in the lower, bcs clearly yesterday fnatic was the better team against the NA teams

True. Also I think Fnatic looks sooo good right now. Especially with their big brains.

duchesssx [#62]

eu lost against a team with a stand in. maybe go back to the drawing board

Technically both V1 and SEN have stand-ins.

duchesssx [#62]

eu lost against a team with a stand in. maybe go back to the drawing board

Liquid is a fluke team and they choked hard vs V1. Also V1 didn't have any pressure since no1 expected anything from them

DeathStroKE [#32]

I am quite curious as to what vikings will bring in . some brazilian dudes were saying they were hiding strats and stuff like V1.

Not much i guess

ImMisterSentinel [#52]

Most people did not expect NA to perform so well (at least V1 after their first game) and EU were heavy favorites. EU is super top heavy and 85% of people still think they're the best region. Version1 beat Liquid because liquid failed to adapt to the new meta and got out util-ed. SEN and Fnatic are the 2 best teams in the world right now (by far imo, maybe FPX could be there too if they didnt always choke) and SEN won the coin toss. However, saying that the results are all random is a very brainless take that implies you're not actually watching the games or following the scene. SEN have been on top for ages now. Fnatic has been less consistent but with their new(ish) roster changes they look to be a top contender in Europe for a long time coming. The best teams will stay at the top. Those who adapt will stay at the top. Teams like Liquid who didn't adapt got dominated tactically and lost even though they had better players. Even though I'd say EU is better overall, NA's best > EU's best.

I love this comment. This is the smartest thing I have seen on this thread, and it is 100% right.

Gurggu [#66]

Liquid is a fluke team and they choked hard vs V1. Also V1 didn't have any pressure since no1 expected anything from them

tbf, v1 wasn't considered good at all compared to tier 1 b4 the last challengers, but they showed up (and every called it a fluke). teams like 100 thieves, envy, immortals, c9 were all considered way better than v1, but v1 2-1'd liquid pretty convincingly.

Yoshi6002 [#67]

Not much i guess

lmao

5pw423yjmv2 [#61]

In CS:GO, LoL, Dota 2 (other games apart from Valorant are irrelevant) burgers are just total dogshit. This makes sense since the whole country is a fucking shitshow lmao

good thing this is a valorant thread and ur regions getting fucking shit on so far :) ur best teams lose and u have no other way of responding but by flaming na in other games that rnt relevant

Gurggu [#66]

Liquid is a fluke team and they choked hard vs V1. Also V1 didn't have any pressure since no1 expected anything from them

tl a fluke, v1 no pressure, sounds like a lot of excuses to me

Troll post lmao

A big part of NA's success in Iceland has been the strats. For example, Liquid played a 4-1 setup against V1 and refused to adapt (on Haven I believe, where they lost 13-4). Additionally, V1's post-plants were insanely good.

The big component of this game is a meta that shifts more frequently than cs:go, so I don't necessarily expect NA to continue dominating. However, to say that EU will start dominating because "big brain" is trolling.

CounterProtest [#71]

good thing this is a valorant thread and ur regions getting fucking shit on so far :) ur best teams lose and u have no other way of responding but by flaming na in other games that rnt relevant

EU dominates the puny NA in FPS games. Tell me, why would it be any different for Valorant?

5pw423yjmv2 [#74]

EU dominates the puny NA in FPS games. Tell me, why would it be any different for Valorant?

Because EU sucks at valorant lol

5pw423yjmv2 [#59]

EU dominates the burger region in literally every game worth mentioning. I don't see why this trend would be different in Valorant. But let the burgers have their moment of glory.

immature dumbasses like you ruin the EU vs NA banter because you take it soo serious lmao.

5pw423yjmv2 [#61]

In CS:GO, LoL, Dota 2 (other games apart from Valorant are irrelevant) burgers are just total dogshit. This makes sense since the whole country is a fucking shitshow lmao

in overwatch, lol and valorant ur teams are fucking dogshit u were only good when csgo removed all Asian teams from "international" competition so that they can extract more money from ur region.

U GUYS WILL BE THE BEST REGION IF ONLY NA,EU AND BR COMPETE FOR THE "INTERNATIONAL " TITLE

ImMisterSentinel [#52]

Most people did not expect NA to perform so well (at least V1 after their first game) and EU were heavy favorites. EU is super top heavy and 85% of people still think they're the best region. Version1 beat Liquid because liquid failed to adapt to the new meta and got out util-ed. SEN and Fnatic are the 2 best teams in the world right now (by far imo, maybe FPX could be there too if they didnt always choke) and SEN won the coin toss. However, saying that the results are all random is a very brainless take that implies you're not actually watching the games or following the scene. SEN have been on top for ages now. Fnatic has been less consistent but with their new(ish) roster changes they look to be a top contender in Europe for a long time coming. The best teams will stay at the top. Those who adapt will stay at the top. Teams like Liquid who didn't adapt got dominated tactically and lost even though they had better players. Even though I'd say EU is better overall, NA's best > EU's best.

This is so true. Same thing applies to a team like 100 Thieves. They are a great great team but refused to adapt to the new meta and that's why they're sitting at home instead of at masters.

bigpeensheen [#56]

FNC will def make it to Lower Finals, the lower bracket rn is weak af compared to them

Def agree. FNC vs. Liquid rematch

dignityx3 [#11]

?? V1 shit on ur best team and sen 2-0'd LMFAO that is complete dominance.

You simply can't say that though. It's been stated by a lot of people that most of EUs best teams and talent didn't even make it into the tournament. The same can be said about other regions teams. Not because they didn't qualify but because they simply weren't ready. Your ignorance is bliss, and your mind is so narrow. The game is so new still, and teams are still being formed, swapping players in and out often. This argument shouldn't even be a thing at the moment.. We don't have enough to base things off of. As a person from NA, the things you're saying are pretty crazy and delusional yourself. Have some reason

anothervlruser [#77]

in overwatch, lol and valorant ur teams are fucking dogshit u were only good when csgo removed all Asian teams from "international" competition so that they can extract more money from ur region.

U GUYS WILL BE THE BEST REGION IF ONLY NA,EU AND BR COMPETE FOR THE "INTERNATIONAL " TITLE

we already are

Danny [#75]

Because EU sucks at valorant lol

convincing argument. typical na burger brain

Gurggu [#46]

The best teams in EU are not even in the tournament lmfao

well, next time they should win and get into the tournament, kekw

deebzi [#73]

Troll post lmao

A big part of NA's success in Iceland has been the strats. For example, Liquid played a 4-1 setup against V1 and refused to adapt (on Haven I believe, where they lost 13-4). Additionally, V1's post-plants were insanely good.

The big component of this game is a meta that shifts more frequently than cs:go, so I don't necessarily expect NA to continue dominating. However, to say that EU will start dominating because "big brain" is trolling.

I have not said they have a better brain, this has nothing to do with intelligence. I said, that our team structure has always been different and more teamwise and stratwise rather then making tactics around individual skill.

dignityx3 [#30]

nope, not at all. liquid beat them in bo5. fnc would lose to v1.

Bro you have some big problem understanding that 1 match doesn't make you a better one, just might have had a better day, what matters is overall performence.

lethaldot [#80]

You simply can't say that though. It's been stated by a lot of people that most of EUs best teams and talent didn't even make it into the tournament. The same can be said about other regions teams. Not because they didn't qualify but because they simply weren't ready. Your ignorance is bliss, and your mind is so narrow. The game is so new still, and teams are still being formed, swapping players in and out often. This argument shouldn't even be a thing at the moment.. We don't have enough to base things off of. As a person from NA, the things you're saying are pretty crazy and delusional yourself. Have some reason

what? you're fucking delusional, shut your ape ass up you stupid bitch. i can definitely say that, because its factual. EU's "best teams" didnt make it bc they're not the best teams. they had multiple chances to qualify , but didnt, bc they're not the best. Liquid and FNC are objectively the 2 best EMEA teams. fuck outta here with your bullshit excuses of "they werent ready". thats not an excuse, every team had the same time and prep to do shit. this argument is completely valid and NA >>>>> EU rn. we have enough to base off of. ur not a person from NA, ur a disgrace and a gorilla.

5pw423yjmv2 [#82]

convincing argument. typical na burger brain

Like your argument is any better

“We’re better at mobas and an old shooter that no one in NA plays, so we must be better at valorant!!!!!1!1!”

That’d be like me saying that because the USA is better than european countries at the olympics, we should be the best at soccer

iNSANE [#84]

I have not said they have a better brain, this has nothing to do with intelligence. I said, that our team structure has always been different and more teamwise and stratwise rather then making tactics around individual skill.

You said that EU has a better approach to the game based on strats and team structure while NA has better individual performers. By saying that EU is more tactical than NA, it's essentially the same thing as "EU = big brain" and that is a baseless assertion.

Danny [#87]

Like your argument is any better

“We’re better at mobas and an old shooter that no one in NA plays, so we must be better at valorant!!!!!1!1!”

That’d be like me saying that because the USA is better than european countries at the olympics, we should be the best at soccer

football*

streamratings [#54]

dude shut up you're embarassing NA

It's actually pretty sad for that guy, but the flair seems to check out.

NA has had some rough go's at global competition. But I'm glad to see that we are tournament favourites now. With NA's most recent win in CSGO, you'd be more likely to win the lottery than find a single people who knew about the game and predicted C9 to win the major/

If Sentinels can adapt (steal Fnatic's teamwork), Sentinels can actually make a case for a "Faze Clan/Astralis" era in Valorant.

5pw423yjmv2 [#89]

football*

Different regional dialects = different vocabulary

If a large population says something a certain way it’s correct

Danny [#91]

Different regional dialects = different vocabulary

If a large population says something a certain way it’s correct

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=football,soccer
even NA uses the term football more

outsmarted NA burger brain again KEKW

5pw423yjmv2 [#92]

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=football,soccer
even NA uses the term football more

outsmarted NA burger brain again KEKW

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