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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN

Is there any team that will be able to beat NA teams other than the new G2 roster?

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ACEND maybe

However, tournament not finish yet.

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I don't think they will be as good after koldamenta zeek trade

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I feel like its better for acend honestly if they have the same team play.

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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN

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Well koldamenta is their IGL so their teamplay might go down

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zeek was an IGL on his old team but i think koldamenta is probably better

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Most of Acend strats were designed by Koldamenta (with NBS help). Zeek was IGL in Nolpenki, but I'm not sure how that's gonna work, he comes from Fn and it's so young. Anyway cNed and Nbs were in Nolpenki with Zeek so probably they already have the chemistry

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EU can still beat them, both games were incredibly close at times all they need to win is a few key rounds in their favour and you would be saying the opposite

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wow great analysis. just win a few more rounds and they can win the game. LOL. they couldn't thats why they lost. its like saying they just had to win the rounds they lost.

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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN

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Just win 4Head

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I think what he means by that is those games were extremely close and could've gone the other way at any different day. Sometimes individual plays in specific rounds can win or lose you games.

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you don't know that unless they play each other again. thats just assumptions. so until they play each other again v1>TL and SEN>FNC

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Daniveus

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yup for now u can say that. NA has the right to be toxic, EU would have done the same if they won, but there have only been 2 matchups not a very good amount of samples and except for haven in V1-TL every map was super close like 13-10+ EU still has a chance to comeback and win it all :D

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Indeed, on Icebox Fnatic lost the pistol for 0.02 seconds, after that Sentinels managed to convert the second round. What would it happen if they got this pistol? We don't know, but it could have been a different outcome in the series.

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G2, Fnatic, Gambit and Blaze will qualify to Berlin

Liquid won't be able to maintain form and soon drop out of top-5 EMEA

I'm calling it now

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Liquid rely too much on individual performance, so it wouldn't be surprising

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asseater4life

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Yes I think so too if they keep the 3 Brits.

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Rogue_Angel

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not if nivera comes :)

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G2 lul
BDS or NIP have higher chance to qualify than this shit team

I feel like no matter which team will qualify they gonna showstomp by NA. The only hope is that the eu teams will improve their skills for the main tournament in December, as is it now NA is so much better

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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN

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NiP wont have a better chance to qualify than the new G2

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fitthora

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i dont know witch new g2 u are talking about
rn g2 is shit, that is

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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN

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mixwell
nukkye
pyth
koldamenta
AvovA

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fitthora

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as i said, last matches i saw from g2, the team is not good at all
maybe they gonna be good with new roster, but just is only theorycraftng

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sins

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are u stupid last time g2 played with a stand in and they only lost to strong fnatic with a close series

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fitthora

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and previosly lost to vitality :D
g2 gonna always be suck team with mixwell in

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sins

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my guy last time they met g2 won 2-1 dude u dont follow the scene dont spread misinfo and shut up

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fitthora

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ah my bad, if g2 was good team they should qualify to masters 1 or 2, but neither happened
so you cant say g2 is good enough

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Chill the only Na team yesterday that outclassed the EU opponent was V1. FNATIC vs Sentinels was an open game. You can’t say whole EU is shit after one bo3

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fitthora

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i didnt say that whole EU are shit, i said NA is better rn than EU
fnatic - sen was a whole serie when fnatic trying to comeback, but never did it

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Do you know BDS lost to Vitality and Entropiq recently?

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fitthora

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no i didnt, i mostly watching vct tourneys
and that was mostly one example, u can take ascend/heretics/guild, all that teams beat g2 easily

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sins

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my guy heretics lost 0-2 to g2 in open qualifers u know nothing about the scene just shut up

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fitthora

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that was a fluke win obviously

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moet

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well, liquid rely too much on individual performance i wouldnt be surprising if they wont be able to maintain form

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Acend Alliance Team Vitality Team Heretics Gambit Guild Bds Wave G2 Fpx. All have the Potential to beat Sentinels on a good day.

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DumboVAL

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Alliance pls, they are getting beaten by no name teams early in every tournament

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edelhose1337

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Team Liquid is Not a no Name Team. They lost 13-9 13-11 to them. In this spring tournament they played with baddyG, so it dont count that much

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FPX

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Shail

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NUTURN can beat V1.

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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN

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talking about EU here

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Shail

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Oh no...EU cant beat NA

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honestly dont think so, but happy to be proven wrong.

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Shail

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No i support V1 too, but this match up is difficult than vs TL.

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Guild of course isn't it obvious

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ABitDeluded

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Guild was clapped by some third rate Turkish team ffs.

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edelhose1337

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And Guild clapped Futbolist. Whats the point??

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The point is, if they can't beat some Turkish teams, there's no chance they could go up against NA's best teams.

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Daniveus

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turkey has probably the biggest playerbase in the world maybe only second to NA so they were serious competition, best player in EU, for example, is cNed who happens to be turkish.

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ABitDeluded

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You're talking about potentially right? Atm they're the 3rd best region in EMEA. Not talking about playerbase, just quality of teams.

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Adruvi17

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When bonkar can kill they can be a great team.

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iNSANE

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Fnatic is a very good team, do not judge after 1 game. Let's see how the tournament will evolve. To be honest IDK. why everyone expected Europe to dominate NA, it is still a new game, the teams have never played against each other so they had no idea how to counter each other or prepare against each other.

I think this tournament will still be heavily relying on individual performance since the teams' aren't prepared well for each other, but once the time continues Europe will dominate more and more since NA always relied only on individual performance in FPS games and were never really a well-synchronized strat team. Europe has not been dominating NA because we have better players individually, but because we have a different approach to the game teamwise.

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dignityx3

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lol you are delusional. just stfu already please. NA>> EU and its not even close. stupid ass EU fan boy still thinking that Europe will dominate

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iNSANE

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Tell me one game where NA dominate. In long run, not just 1 match on 1st lan ever lol.

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Adruvi17

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Fnatic, G2 and FPX. I think they will be the more structured teams in a near future. Teams like Acend or TL I doubt because the IGL

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Uncanny

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These people making a conclusion already. Trust your team and your region :)

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GetsystheGr8

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FPX...but TSM look scary they signed a 17 year old prodigy controller

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kindereggmodel

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im also a tsm fan. bang isnt a prodigy.

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Blinded

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Bang is ass man, imagine benching Brax, the team won't win shit, when they don't make Berlin they nuke the roster.

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Noyn

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Fnatic, Fpx, and Gambit, these are clearly the strongest teams in EU

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GetsystheGr8

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FNATIC ALREADY lost

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TinglyPiano

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FNC is the strongest EU team by far (IMO), and they got man handled by SEN

why u think new G2 roster will be better than them? They haven't proved anything yet

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Zaynio

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Not man handled but it was kinda obvious that Sentinels were playing around with them and getting cocky.

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moet

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bc flair

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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN

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well how can they prove anything after playing 0 matches

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TinglyPiano

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but your comment assume that G2 is the 'only hope', when as you said they haven't proven anything after playing 0 match. you are contradicting yourself

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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN

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But that roster is by far the most promising

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Sh00ka

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That G2 roster has been in a massive slump since choking at the first ever Val major last year they've removed and recycled one player out of that team the rest being the original core and unfortunately in my opinion are washed up they never made it huge on the C's scene and now their doing it again on the Val scene G2 picked up low tier players every one else is better by far with skills and tactics

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Sh00ka

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I was RIGHT only have mixwell left clearly I was right thank you for the -frag 🤣

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Estiggma

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eu last hope is just wait till new talen arrives, eu=Tier 4-5 cs what did you expect lol ?

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lyniakk

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Heretics 💪

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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN

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No chance for heretics after transfer

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sexyfuck

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I don't even care it was close games. people genuinely thought EU gonna slap NA lol. Got outclassed by a team with a stand-in. I like FNATIC though. they still have a chance.

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FNC has the best chance of beating NA teams atm. FPX would easily be able to if they wouldn’t choke

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flag checks out
who cares about
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5pw423yjmv2

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eu needs to stop trolling and play meta characters. literally could've stopped so many braindead NA pushes with astra

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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN

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Flukequid very behind in meta