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#1
Flyingcat

Why do you guys hate icebox? Personally i love it very much as well as ascent. Haven and breeze are the worst map imo

#2
Zorontom
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Dumbass Jetts holding 50 different off angles with OP
Viper using her pit on A every 4 rounds so you cant go their
Not KJ having busted mollys on A site
Can't take B without having sage or harbour before viper mollies and sova shocks start landing on you

#18
Flyingcat
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Idk about the b side since i always defend it and when am holding b nobody entering that shit.

#20
greedeetv
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exactly…

#34
Zorontom
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Exactly I just go B when I have a shitty weapon so I can get exit frags on A or just camp yellow for those close fights

#3
Devanshhhhhh
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Playing the map wrong it is very easy to scale attack on the map.. mid control is so easy in that map like lol

#22
greedeetv
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all of the angles mid are defender sided

#23
Flyingcat
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I love lurking mid. I always caught em off guard

#4
titanwithpp
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Split and fracture will be my most disliked map because of mf breach

#19
Flyingcat
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I love fracture cuz i love using breach neon + Raze. I hate split cuz that shit is wayyy tooo defender sided

#27
titanwithpp
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I play chamber so that stun pulls me out of ads or even angle im holding and forces me to tp and these 2 maps just make it worse

#33
Flyingcat
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I used to main chamber too. But yea breach can perfectly counter chamber

#5
brahianv
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Not a bad to play in Ranked but it bores me to death to watch in competitive. Not bad Riot

#6
moatz
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LFG. Finally it's gone
I might have to start playing val again

#7
cbitgg
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people who hate Icebox and Breeze are the people who can't hit a headshot if their life depended on it

#8
Devanshhhhhh
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🗿😂

I like both

#10
brahianv
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I dont hate icebox especially in Ranked but if Riot wants the best competitive map pool getting rid of icebox is a good choice for the game in the long run.

#11
Devanshhhhhh
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Idk i feel like getting rid of any map is bad like there will always be PPL who like that map which u take away idk all maps should exist in a way or rotated out in a month or so..

#17
brahianv
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Sorry but Riot has to make a decision they care about what is the map people complain most about and is icebox. they dont care about individual claims or anecdotes.

#30
Devanshhhhhh
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Bro in future there will be so many maps are u dumb? Are they gonna remove like half of the maps?? In the name of balance this is a temporary solution when they will add more maps they will most probs do smth else with maps like map bans or map pick system

#21
Flyingcat
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Breeze is dogshit for me cuz of my team mates. I always get that map 3 times a row and lose all

#9
Devanshhhhhh
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#Opinion

Idk why people like split so much so defender sided bullshit to play in Ranked with uncordinated team...a Jett oping raze grenade or sage wall in mid with sentinel like annoying and cringe and F bs

#12
Stratos
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The agent comp for it is extremely stale to a point where people decide to gave up on inovating with this map.

#13
KCNTV
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rip bozo map

#14
redlight
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Icebox was fun. There's a lot of creativity potential with the agents, but the meta loves to shoehorn Viper.

Haven gets very depressing to play. It's more repetitive than Icebox, and there's barely any creativity potential.

I would rather play any other map in the pool than Haven 3 or 4 games a night.

#16
Devanshhhhhh
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And already a 3 site map is in the game.lol i think in terms of meta only ascent is wrost.

#24
greedeetv
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only reason why you say haven is stale is because its been out since beta and everyone plays it constantly so you have less potential to be tricky, but its still a relatively even map in terms of attack and defense and there is still a variety of agents that work on the map. it is also simply the most well designed map in the game

#15
cobalt21312
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It’s a decent map but super stale - agent comps and attacking strats r the same every game

#25
pitchfork
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its the agent comp

#26
iann_21
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icebox for me is the only map which visually looks good, else fracture, pearl is too dark, haven, ascent is too sunny, lotus is just ass

#28
Rebellion2408
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I honestly feel it's good to play Icebox in ranked because obviously 5 A 5 B. But even in pro scene things were shaking in Icebox as we are seeing more Harbor Gekko and some new stuff going on. Ascent on the other hand is just damn boring same agents same boring meta nothing's changed. So I would prefer Ascent going first but I understand why Icebox is hated and it's going out

#29
LooseyGoosey
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ppl hate it? It's one of my favorite maps lol, together with ascent and haven

Breeze can gtfo

#31
Beyonder2
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fuck off, first Breeze and now Icebox, rip my two fav maps 😭

#32
Nachtel
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A site has 10 different off angles on defender site with different elevation and distance that you have to attempt to clear if you want to get onto site. The entire site is cramped so flashes are less effective to clear the site, and so you're guaranteed to get peeked by at least two people the moment you try to push, it requires no intelligence, just aim diff.

Mid to b is almost impossible to take without getting lucky or a really good read.

B main is a long ass bottleneck where Jett or Raze or even omen can hold one of 5 off angles with an awp and be able to peek your team at least twice, and that's not to mention the 5 hiding spots that a viper with a shotgun can camp and that you have to waste half your team's utility to clear while avoiding the previously mentioned awp yellow. If you somehow manage to plant bomb, you have to pray to God your team has a harbor or sage or that someone isn't camping heaven the moment you start planting.

All rotates are slow as fuck and you can't ever get a good timing, especially if their sage walls off kitchen and or they have a kj with a shotgun perma holding tube.

There's no viable strategy other than to take aim duels, on both sides, and win. Its the map with the least strategy in the game--its that way in pro play too.

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