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The guard

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#1
Colevalorant

I haven’t been looking recently, is there any leaks or confirmations of who’s gonna be on the roster or is the exact same

#2
sheahhhh
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exact same but tex instead of saya

#3
gamr
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tex instead of saya. good upgrade for the guard, they should win easily despite the coach downgrade

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sheahhhh
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honestly i had them winning it all till G2 joined the scene

Dapr<Trent
OXY=Tex
wippie>valyn
Net=shahz
Penny>JonahP

Shahz>=Valyn IGL

Immi>Joshrt

#6
LathesRule
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You’re doing that stupid thing where you compare individual players and base your decision on that. If that was accurate, Guard would have NEVER beaten Optic yet they did.

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sheahhhh
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yay>net
saya>victor
valyn<marved
Trent>crashies
JonahP>FNS

doesnt seem too far off

#9
gamr
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the problem is that yay was so clear of neT in stage 1 that its not even a fair comparison. trent and saya were the only players who could even be in the conversation with yay at the time.

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hold on, what are these comparisons? why are u comparing dapr to trent or neT to shahz?

trent > shahzam
ill agree with oxy = tex just because we have no idea what oxy looks like in officials but he was dominating tier 2 so ill give him that, but realistically tex > oxy
valyn > wippie
neT > dapr (neT has been DESTROYING in 10 mans on KJ, he's not that great at viper or chamber but he's a monster on KJ)
penny > JonahP

Valyn igl > Shahz

Immi > JoshRT

the thing is TGRD feeds off teamwork, not individual play. it wont matter if all of g2 is individually stronger than TGRD because TGRD is one of the best at teamplay in NA.

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sheahhhh
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is dapr going back to sentinel? if not, this is a wrong comparison. guard was kinda hard because they intermingle a lot with roles I pretty sure I did the best considering dapr's switch from sentinel too initiator a few months ago

also wippie is a smokes god, when his team was good, he was considered top 3 smokes in NA and realistically OXY got picked up for a rzn could be the next zekken while tex got dropped

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dapr - sentinel
wippie - smokes
shahzam - initiator igl
penny - flex
oxy - duelist

wippie wasn't even a smokes player before lmao he was a senti player, you are trolling

#12
sheahhhh
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dapr is not a sentinel anymore, and wippie plays viper and smokes now a lot
u gotta stop living in the past, they haven't played senti in a while, we don't know who will take that role now that chamber has been nerfed

#14
sheahhhh
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then educate urself dumbass because even so, dapr wipes that fraud net, diffed him in overall kills and htoh in their game

#18
xSaneZ
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They had to intermingle roles because of chamber and only chamber pretty much, they could not find the right person to play him. Now that he's not as meta anymore they should be good, I mean they're bringing in a chamber player anyway.

#15
Sprouts
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I’m a fan of TGrd, but I wouldn’t call Tex an upgrade

#16
sheahhhh
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fax saya owns that fraud

#17
gamr
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I’m a fan of TGRD and I would call Tex an upgrade. I understand why it might be hard to accept tho. Saya was way too good in stage 1 and stage 2, but he struggled hard when it came down to not playing Jett/chamber

#20
xSaneZ
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He was struggling hard on chamber too actually, tex would have def been an upgrade but now that metas changed it may not be so much

#23
gamr
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nah he wasn't struggling on chamber, not at LCQ at least. stage 2 was a fuckfest for everyone, he was struggling on chamber a little bit during stage 2, but during LCQ he was the highest rated chamber

#4
LathesRule
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Tex, Valyn, Trent, net, and JonahP with JoshRT coaching I believe.

#19
dexter000111
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I had Guard winning Ascension until I found out that mCe is leaving the team. Coach's role is easy to overlook sometimes but it's literally what defines the structure of the team.
Dumb shits love to say that Xeta leaving C9 destroyed the team but no one realises it was bcoz of their coach autumn leaving.
And on top of that they had a huge downgrade from saya to tex
I don't see Guard getting top 2 in the league

#21
xSaneZ
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This. mCe coordinated them and their teamwork so well, which was honestly their best part. We'll have to see how good their new coach is, but I doubt they'll adjust to a new style of play even if the new coach is good

#22
dexter000111
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It's JoshRT as far as I know and in my humble opinion he is not a good coach. NRG never made it past top 8 in NA even tho they had a good roster

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