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#1
WinterZ

People are talking about FPX Roster -> NaVi but what about Acend roster (-L1NK + ANGE1) -> NaVi? It seems pretty plausible to me especially since there were some early rumors of NaVi wanting to go with Eastern and Central European talent, only ANGE1 was leaked to be joining NaVi, not the rest of FPX, and because I don't think NaVi, a Ukrainian org, would sign Russian players after taking such an anti-war stance. Lmk what yall think of this tho. I think its way more likely that NaVi go this route instead.

EDIT: Damn everyone on here really underestimating Cloud who has proven himself time and time again to be one of the best in EMEA huh. No worries. Its just more opportunities for good orgs to come in and pick up this dude. He will prove y'all wrong once he makes franchising mark my words :)

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ValulrantLUL
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2 Russians on NAVI CSGO roster 🥱

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Really hard, at least they signed the only tier 1 ukrainian player according to the easter egg from their promotional video

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WinterZ
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ValulrantLUL [#2]

2 Russians on NAVI CSGO roster 🥱

theres a big difference between signing new Russian players and keeping old ones.

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WinterZ [#4]

theres a big difference between signing new Russian players and keeping old ones.

no there isnt, they are civilians as long as they dont pay taxes in russia there is no issue (they live in serbia so no issue)

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sorry, but who is the tier 1 player from ukraine?

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WinterZ
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Nahboo [#6]

sorry, but who is the tier 1 player from ukraine?

ANGE1?

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there was already an article that navi is looking to sign the whole fpx roster apart from ardiis who is prolly still exploring his options.

https://dotesports.com/valorant/news/navi-in-talks-with-valorant-masters-winning-roster-but-one-player-is-uncertain

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WinterZ [#7]

ANGE1?

Only ANGE1 and sorry already boomer

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WinterZ
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ValulrantLUL [#5]

no there isnt, they are civilians as long as they dont pay taxes in russia there is no issue (they live in serbia so no issue)

even so, seeing how they dropped tier 1 russian talent like cloud, I don't think they're looking to sign any more russians. If they were, they probably wouldn't've dropped Cloud only to (potentially) get Zyppan in his place.

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WinterZ
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Nahboo [#9]

Only ANGE1 and sorry already boomer

still a top 5 IGL itw?

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WinterZ
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firo [#8]

there was already an article that navi is looking to sign the whole fpx roster apart from ardiis who is prolly still exploring his options.

https://dotesports.com/valorant/news/navi-in-talks-with-valorant-masters-winning-roster-but-one-player-is-uncertain

if thats true, it would be such a backstab to Cloud. He's been the heart and soul of that roster for so long and they replace him for someone like Zyppan

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WinterZ [#11]

still a top 5 IGL itw?

Up to you mate

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WinterZ [#10]

even so, seeing how they dropped tier 1 russian talent like cloud, I don't think they're looking to sign any more russians. If they were, they probably wouldn't've dropped Cloud only to (potentially) get Zyppan in his place.

are you really this dense? why would they keep Cloud if they get the FPX roster? they dont care about signing russian players, but they made it clear they wont sign russians living and paying taxes there

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WinterZ [#12]

if thats true, it would be such a backstab to Cloud. He's been the heart and soul of that roster for so long and they replace him for someone like Zyppan

I think you are having internet explorer moment

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ValulrantLUL [#14]

are you really this dense? why would they keep Cloud if they get the FPX roster? they dont care about signing russian players, but they made it clear they wont sign russians living and paying taxes there

I'm pretty sure Cloud no longer lives in Russia. Why would a CIS org like NaVi pick up an arguably worse, non-CIS player for more money when they can instead keep their arguably better CIS player for absolutely free?

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WinterZ [#12]

if thats true, it would be such a backstab to Cloud. He's been the heart and soul of that roster for so long and they replace him for someone like Zyppan

zyppan and cloud are both good. who knows maybe if ardiis doesnt stay, cloud or ssk might take his place.

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WinterZ [#16]

I'm pretty sure Cloud no longer lives in Russia. Why would a CIS org like NaVi pick up an arguably worse, non-CIS player for more money when they can instead keep their arguably better CIS player for absolutely free?

because the team works and you dont know how much Zyppan adds to it, because Zyppan is proven at T1 Lan Player and Cloud only played EU and the best teams there were a broken TL and FNATIC

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WinterZ [#12]

if thats true, it would be such a backstab to Cloud. He's been the heart and soul of that roster for so long and they replace him for someone like Zyppan

Zyppan>>cloud

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GreyDaze [#19]

Zyppan>>cloud

Cloud:
Raze - 260.2 ACS
KAY/O - 234 ACS
Skye - 286 ACS

Zyppan:
Raze - 256.9 ACS
KAY/O - 203.3 ACS
Skye - 219 ACS

"zYpPaN>>cLoUd"

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WinterZ [#20]

Cloud:
Raze - 260.2 ACS
KAY/O - 234 ACS
Skye - 286 ACS

Zyppan:
Raze - 256.9 ACS
KAY/O - 203.3 ACS
Skye - 219 ACS

"zYpPaN>>cLoUd"

Take L
Cloud onliner never.played on lan
Meanwhile zyppan played 2 lans with 1st and 4th finish

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WinterZ
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BoomSl4nG [#21]

Take L
Cloud onliner never.played on lan
Meanwhile zyppan played 2 lans with 1st and 4th finish

By that logic, Kiles and d3ffo are also better than Cloud because they won Champs 2021 with Acend and Masters 2021 with Gambit respectively. Doesn't make sense no?

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WinterZ [#22]

By that logic, Kiles and d3ffo are also better than Cloud because they won Champs 2021 with Acend and Masters 2021 with Gambit respectively. Doesn't make sense no?

Dude are u dumb? Kills and d3ffo played a year ago. We are talking about present stats. There is no way cloud is remotely better than zyppan in current scenario. L take after l take

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WinterZ [#16]

I'm pretty sure Cloud no longer lives in Russia. Why would a CIS org like NaVi pick up an arguably worse, non-CIS player for more money when they can instead keep their arguably better CIS player for absolutely free?

Just stp fighting man, whole fpx is getting signed by navi don't be selfish and jealous coz tl never won anything and would also never if teams like fpx would remain as a team, you're just jealous man

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WinterZ [#20]

Cloud:
Raze - 260.2 ACS
KAY/O - 234 ACS
Skye - 286 ACS

Zyppan:
Raze - 256.9 ACS
KAY/O - 203.3 ACS
Skye - 219 ACS

"zYpPaN>>cLoUd"

u r actually so retarded its crazy

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ValulrantLUL
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GreyDaze [#23]

Dude are u dumb? Kills and d3ffo played a year ago. We are talking about present stats. There is no way cloud is remotely better than zyppan in current scenario. L take after l take

you are completly right, he is comparing online games vs LAN against best teams in the world, he is just ret*rded

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WinterZ
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thorking1234567899 [#24]

Just stp fighting man, whole fpx is getting signed by navi don't be selfish and jealous coz tl never won anything and would also never if teams like fpx would remain as a team, you're just jealous man

??? where is the jealousy? I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to do Cloud that dirty.

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WinterZ
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alexxx [#25]

u r actually so retarded its crazy

flair does not check out

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ValulrantLUL [#26]

you are completly right, he is comparing online games vs LAN against best teams in the world, he is just ret*rded

EMEA has tougher competition than either Masters or Champions, on average

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WinterZ [#22]

By that logic, Kiles and d3ffo are also better than Cloud because they won Champs 2021 with Acend and Masters 2021 with Gambit respectively. Doesn't make sense no?

zyppan played 625 rounds and cloud 333 in stage 2
and in stage 1 was zyppan better

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Why would they pick up acend over fpx. Fpx is just better and most of the russian players arent even living in russia rn. Also george also reported navi was trying to buy the entire roster not just ange1. Please use brain

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WinterZ
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shockyyyy [#31]

Why would they pick up acend over fpx. Fpx is just better and most of the russian players arent even living in russia rn. Also george also reported navi was trying to buy the entire roster not just ange1. Please use brain

im not saying this is whats happening rn. Just saying what if

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BoomSl4nG
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GreyDaze [#23]

Dude are u dumb? Kills and d3ffo played a year ago. We are talking about present stats. There is no way cloud is remotely better than zyppan in current scenario. L take after l take

Omg u are so stupid if we go by your logic of comparing stats
Then jake paul is a better boxer than sugar ray robinson, ali and tyson
Shut up
Get a brain

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WinterZ [#20]

Cloud:
Raze - 260.2 ACS
KAY/O - 234 ACS
Skye - 286 ACS

Zyppan:
Raze - 256.9 ACS
KAY/O - 203.3 ACS
Skye - 219 ACS

"zYpPaN>>cLoUd"

What is this lol

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WinterZ
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BoomSl4nG [#33]

Omg u are so stupid if we go by your logic of comparing stats
Then jake paul is a better boxer than sugar ray robinson, ali and tyson
Shut up
Get a brain

I take it that this was meant for me?

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WinterZ [#10]

even so, seeing how they dropped tier 1 russian talent like cloud, I don't think they're looking to sign any more russians. If they were, they probably wouldn't've dropped Cloud only to (potentially) get Zyppan in his place.

you really are dumb enough to think they dropped cloud after keeping him just coz they didnt want russian talent, or isnt it more obvious that they got rid of cloud coz they were just signing a whole new roster, most possibly fpx. you chose to be selectively dumb here

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Olofboost [#29]

EMEA has tougher competition than either Masters or Champions, on average

But FPX always end up in the final parts so doesn't apply

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WinterZ [#12]

if thats true, it would be such a backstab to Cloud. He's been the heart and soul of that roster for so long and they replace him for someone like Zyppan

You know they kicked Cloud and ssk from navi a while ago right?

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WinterZ
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Mortadelo [#38]

You know they kicked Cloud and ssk from navi a while ago right?

internet explorer moment from me lul

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