GenG vs TSM/Soniqs?
even if TSM defeats soniqs can they defeat GenG?
April 18, 2021
8:30 PM EDT
Patch 2.06
Viper and Yoru buffs
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GEN ban Split; TSM ban Bind; TSM pick Ascent; GEN pick Haven; Icebox remains
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1.10 1.23 1.02 | 237 265 221 | 16 9 7 | / 16 4 12 / | 8 3 5 | 0 +5 -5 | 68% 86% 58% | 147 121 162 | 29% 33% 26% | 2 0 2 | 0 0 0 | +2 0 +2 | |
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0.89 0.81 0.93 | 176 162 185 | 13 5 8 | / 16 5 11 / | 3 0 3 | -3 0 -3 | 58% 71% 50% | 112 103 117 | 44% 50% 42% | 1 1 0 | 2 1 1 | -1 0 -1 | |
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0.76 1.46 0.34 | 166 312 82 | 10 8 2 | / 16 5 11 / | 4 1 3 | -6 +3 -9 | 58% 86% 42% | 108 167 74 | 22% 23% 21% | 2 2 0 | 3 0 3 | -1 +2 -3 | |
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0.75 0.84 0.70 | 203 230 188 | 10 5 5 | / 16 5 11 / | 8 3 5 | -6 0 -6 | 63% 86% 50% | 124 103 136 | 11% 17% 8% | 2 1 1 | 1 0 1 | +1 +1 0 | |
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0.47 0.29 0.57 | 136 123 145 | 9 4 5 | / 16 5 11 / | 1 1 0 | -7 -1 -6 | 42% 71% 25% | 84 86 82 | 24% 50% 13% | 2 1 1 | 4 1 3 | -2 0 -2 |
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1.92 2.74 0.52 | 381 562 74 | 28 26 2 | / 8 4 4 / | 5 4 1 | +20 +22 -2 | 84% 100% 57% | 203 302 33 | 13% 11% 50% | 5 5 0 | 4 0 4 | +1 +5 -4 | |
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1.08 0.93 1.34 | 260 249 281 | 17 11 6 | / 13 7 6 / | 5 5 0 | +4 +4 0 | 95% 92% 100% | 165 152 187 | 28% 27% 30% | 0 0 0 | 1 1 0 | -1 -1 0 | |
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1.06 0.98 1.20 | 203 151 293 | 13 8 5 | / 11 5 6 / | 6 4 2 | +2 +3 -1 | 89% 92% 86% | 111 107 119 | 31% 24% 42% | 2 1 1 | 1 1 0 | +1 0 +1 | |
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0.77 0.83 0.66 | 129 112 159 | 10 5 5 | / 11 5 6 / | 1 1 0 | -1 0 -1 | 79% 92% 57% | 78 82 71 | 26% 21% 38% | 0 0 0 | 1 0 1 | -1 0 -1 | |
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0.68 0.73 0.58 | 192 187 202 | 12 8 4 | / 15 8 7 / | 2 1 1 | -3 0 -3 | 63% 58% 71% | 122 112 138 | 24% 23% 25% | 3 2 1 | 2 2 0 | +1 0 +1 |
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0.99 1.37 1.20 | 265 206 320 | 37 16 21 | / 34 14 20 / | 9 3 6 | +3 +2 +1 | 61% 63% 59% | 159 113 198 | 36% 34% 36% | 4 1 3 | 3 1 2 | +1 0 +1 | |
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1.00 0.93 0.96 | 218 237 203 | 24 12 12 | / 33 16 17 / | 15 7 8 | -9 -4 -5 | 68% 74% 64% | 158 164 152 | 28% 37% 19% | 3 1 2 | 4 2 2 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.78 0.79 0.78 | 160 175 146 | 25 13 12 | / 32 15 17 / | 5 1 4 | -7 -2 -5 | 56% 53% 59% | 101 100 101 | 34% 26% 43% | 2 2 0 | 5 3 2 | -3 -1 -2 | |
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0.77 0.45 0.60 | 135 174 97 | 16 10 6 | / 34 16 18 / | 9 3 6 | -18 -6 -12 | 56% 63% 50% | 91 108 76 | 21% 22% 20% | 2 2 0 | 6 1 5 | -4 +1 -5 | |
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0.20 0.76 0.50 | 118 86 144 | 16 6 10 | / 32 16 16 / | 3 3 0 | -16 -10 -6 | 46% 53% 41% | 75 64 85 | 22% 27% 18% | 4 2 2 | 8 4 4 | -4 -2 -2 |
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2.06 1.32 1.72 | 329 414 223 | 52 35 17 | / 18 11 7 / | 7 6 1 | +34 +24 +10 | 85% 91% 79% | 182 223 134 | 19% 16% 27% | 9 6 3 | 4 0 4 | +5 +6 -1 | |
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0.83 1.50 1.14 | 282 260 310 | 41 20 21 | / 26 16 10 / | 9 6 3 | +15 +4 +11 | 83% 77% 89% | 161 121 207 | 26% 24% 29% | 7 3 4 | 4 3 1 | +3 0 +3 | |
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0.85 1.27 1.05 | 176 134 233 | 27 10 17 | / 24 13 11 / | 10 7 3 | +3 -3 +6 | 83% 86% 79% | 122 94 155 | 24% 29% 21% | 2 1 1 | 1 0 1 | +1 +1 0 | |
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1.03 0.82 0.93 | 163 166 152 | 22 15 7 | / 22 12 10 / | 11 5 6 | 0 +3 -3 | 90% 86% 95% | 103 116 89 | 32% 32% 32% | 4 3 1 | 2 1 1 | +2 +2 0 | |
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0.64 0.91 0.77 | 184 136 238 | 23 10 13 | / 28 14 14 / | 9 3 6 | -5 -4 -1 | 68% 59% 79% | 124 85 169 | 23% 26% 22% | 4 2 2 | 4 3 1 | 0 -1 +1 |
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1.28 0.85 1.79 | 292 171 438 | 21 7 14 | / 18 10 8 / | 1 0 1 | +3 -3 +6 | 55% 50% 60% | 169 109 241 | 42% 35% 46% | 2 1 1 | 3 1 2 | -1 0 -1 | |
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1.14 1.09 1.19 | 232 242 222 | 14 7 7 | / 17 11 6 / | 7 4 3 | -3 -4 +1 | 73% 67% 80% | 187 200 171 | 44% 46% 38% | 1 0 1 | 3 2 1 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.69 0.76 0.62 | 144 182 99 | 12 8 4 | / 16 10 6 / | 2 1 1 | -4 -2 -2 | 55% 42% 70% | 91 99 81 | 25% 17% 44% | 1 1 0 | 3 2 1 | -2 -1 -1 | |
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0.53 0.14 1.00 | 99 64 143 | 7 2 5 | / 16 11 5 / | 2 2 0 | -9 -9 0 | 50% 42% 60% | 67 50 88 | 19% 13% 30% | 2 1 1 | 4 3 1 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.46 0.36 0.58 | 103 93 115 | 6 2 4 | / 18 11 7 / | 5 2 3 | -12 -9 -3 | 55% 50% 60% | 77 74 80 | 19% 21% 18% | 0 0 0 | 3 1 2 | -3 -1 -2 |
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1.54 1.25 1.79 | 276 238 309 | 24 9 15 | / 10 7 3 / | 2 2 0 | +14 +2 +12 | 86% 80% 92% | 164 129 194 | 27% 29% 25% | 4 1 3 | 0 0 0 | +4 +1 +3 | |
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1.29 0.88 1.62 | 223 160 275 | 17 5 12 | / 13 8 5 / | 9 6 3 | +4 -3 +7 | 86% 80% 92% | 161 108 205 | 24% 35% 18% | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.19 0.72 1.59 | 303 274 328 | 24 9 15 | / 13 9 4 / | 4 1 3 | +11 0 +11 | 73% 60% 83% | 158 85 219 | 25% 19% 28% | 7 3 4 | 3 2 1 | +4 +1 +3 | |
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0.84 0.53 1.10 | 175 74 260 | 11 2 9 | / 13 6 7 / | 7 2 5 | -2 -4 +2 | 73% 60% 83% | 126 53 187 | 23% 33% 20% | 1 0 1 | 2 1 1 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.82 1.10 0.59 | 122 184 70 | 9 7 2 | / 11 7 4 / | 5 1 4 | -2 0 -2 | 91% 80% 100% | 96 126 72 | 33% 40% 23% | 2 2 0 | 1 0 1 | +1 +2 -1 |
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Past Matches
you guys saying this didnt age well when i was saying they had to easiest pass ever to GET to this game . No edits no nothing from days before they made it to this game
Honestly... I'm not a TSM fan, so don't call me out... But I think TSM take this one 2-1. I think TSM, for a while, have had a good read on GenG as a team. If GenG doesn't come up with come crazy shit, I think TSM could pull out an upset here. Both teams look shaky as of late, but the pressure is definitely on GenG. I think it's close either way.
Sorry I keep thinking FNS is on GenG. Dunno why. Mixing NV and GenG I guess, both are pretty boring.
pretty sure tsm got this in the bag they been on a win streak against gen g for a while now
literally only one game since their last loss to gen g.
TSM did look better than Gen G last matchup though.
Lol tsm are so braindead they almost lost to aussies lol they need to drop there braindead coach
This is going to be another close match up but I think that Gen.G will pull through and take it 2-1 over TSM
bro every time tsm plays geng all i hear is the reyna dismiss sound all game long from when shawn kills wardell
it was so beautiful. i’m a tsm fan btw just been thru so much shit it’s tough to trust the boys
LMFAO YOUR CAREER IS BEING A SEN FAN BOY YOU SHOULD JUST QUIT WHILE YOUR AT IT 😂 😂😂😂
I add, I multiply, I subtract and divide and I can't understand how Subroza is so hot. Let's go TSM!
hopefully lmfao. I don't mean to be rude or anything like literally everyone on this site but brax seems more consistent.
Their synergy with brax is awful tho. They haven't had enough practice to play well as you can see from first qualifier.
TSM recently got shit on by soniqs on icebox so i dont know about that prediction i think GenG are the ones who 2-0
edit: i am wrong guys rip my prediction game :(
Nah, Soniqs on Icebox is a different breed. Even SEN almost got shit on CT side. Soniqs got to 9-3 half. But SEN managed to pull the comeback cuz the players are just individually better and they won the gun fights on T side. I think most teams would lose to Soniqs with their Viper/Killjoy post plants comp.
TSM have only dropped 1 Bo3 to GenG and it was during Reyna stinger meta. I think they have a good shot here and need it more than anything. If not, then bye bye Cutler :(
even if they win i think its about time they say bye bye cutler if they really wanna shot at iceland
I was one of the first TSM fans to vocally call for Cutler's removal, but now I'm reluctant. The team should probably keep him to play Astra in some games. Let's take full advantage of the 6-man roster. Play Brax unless Cutler is required. TSM can switch them out per map.
I think TSM needs to bring in another player before they can fully drop Cutler. Brax isn't the same type of player as Cutler. He's like Wardell in that I only realistically see him on sentinel agents. If he can expand his agent pool, I'd love to be surprised.
It shows that you are not familiar with TSM. Brax mains duelists like Jett/Reyna, not sentinels. He was put in the sentinel position cuz the team needed it more to replace Hazed on the first qualifier. I really don't think Brax can do any good with TSM's comp cuz no way TSM gets rid of Wardell/Drone/Broza, which means that only Hazed and Cutler can be cut. But Hazed is sentinel and Cutler is IGL which Brax is not known to be good at those roles.
??????????????????? wdym brax always played sentinel agents on t1. only on stream does he play duelists. everyone likes playing duelists cuz its fun to play and watch.
Lol, have you heard him saying how much better he plays duelists compared to sentinels? Playing sentinel on T1 doesn't mean shit cuz T1 was horrible back then anyways. The fact that he has only played sentinel on his previous team doesn't mean that that is his full potential as a player
Eh, you can check comment history if you want. I'm a pretty big fan lol, I'd say I'm familiar with the team and the comps they like to run. Until he mains duelists in pro play against legitimate teams, I'm not buying it. Comp is one thing, pro play is another.
Like I've said a few times before, he doesn't really fit TSM's roster. It's hard to replace Cutler since I don't think Brax can IGL or play Astra. I'd rather keep Hazed.
Brax or Hazed both can play Astra, it's not a big thing. And really if TSM is looking for long term benefits, they should replace Cutler with Brax or else everyone have seen in past months that now Cutler is not a player who can win you match on his own performance. And if people say he's playing controller, I'd give example of Gmd, s0m, Nirto and many more who play support but still frag for team very well.
So when Hazed plays Viper on Icebox and Split, are you putting Brax on Astra or sentinels? And who else on the team plays the agent that Brax isn’t on? That’s what has to be considered here.
Since Hazed is IGLing rn and it's going good, and Hazed and Brax both are flex they can play Astra well if given time to practice with team. I'll always vouch for Brax in and Cutler out, but they just need time to build synergy with Brax.
lmao 11 head to heads. Is this the most teams have played each other.
i think GenG have this 2-0 btw
edit: now im starting to think tsm 2-1 because GenG has been looking sloppy with there 2-1s over t3 and low t2 teams
I have a feeling that TSM is coming back into form but their Ascent is weak dropping a lot of rounds vs nobody teams they will straight up lose to GenG's Ascent no problem. I like that they are trying Astra and Skye though they are looking good
I'm OOTL, why does everyone hate TSM now? Did they do some cancellable shit?
People hate TSM because they went from a top 2 team to a top 8 team right after First Strike. Mostly dissappointing results fuel the "hate" but then again, people like to crap talk a lot of the time.
according to what we can see here right now, Brax is not playing Ascent :( Bench Cutler pls
WARDELL LOOKS SPICY 3 Flawless in a row.... Wardell first 3 rounds: 4K 3K 3K
every team keeps on proving me wrong which is really nice to see. if both faze and geng miss out then both the final qualifier and the challengers 2 closed will definitely be more interesting. good for tsm :)
TSM is 9-0 at the moment and I still do not feel secured man, their past inconsistencies left me with traumas lol. Anyways, Letssss goooo thoooooo
Looks like brax will stay benched for another couple of months
GENg needs 2 or 3 changes
tsm could still be better with brax, tho they are looking really good right now
The calling from Gen G's IGL was awful during this he made a good call like twice in 2 entire games lmao
Jett 16-32 vs Jett 52-18 True definition of Jett diff
If this is not a Jett diff, what is a Jett diff?
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