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Dead Valorant scene in South Asia

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BattleCry

With almost no exposure to international Valorant leagues it seems the Valorant scene in South Asia is going to die if not dead already.
When Valorant arrived I had lots of hope but given franchising coming next year it is certain that SA will not be getting any spot.
This hurts a lot being a eSports fan, and hoping to see our regional team playing at highest level in the game.
Future of pro Valorant scene in SA is Dark.

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I feel bad for SA Esport fans. Not only Val , in all big PC Esport, DOTA/CS/LoL seems like SA scene is so isolated. Mobile/BR Esport is only thing that SA teams have chances to compete internationally

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SA too much invest to mobile game like most APAC country. That's why they don't prioritize APAC & SA much.
It's luck APAC have PRX so riot still care about us. But sadly no good team from SA.

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I'm sure that sa will get atleast 1 spot for viewership? same as oce I assume but maybe i'm hard coping

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they are just not destined to play pc games, one time they were given a chance a guy used a cheat on lan so yeah

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StockfishZ [#5]

they are just not destined to play pc games, one time they were given a chance a guy used a cheat on lan so yeah

idt it's fair to say that "they" ruined their chance just bc of 1 guy

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totneK_kaT_umkaM [#3]

SA too much invest to mobile game like most APAC country. That's why they don't prioritize APAC & SA much.
It's luck APAC have PRX so riot still care about us. But sadly no good team from SA.

Yes, it's still dream for many to have proper gaming setup and all the spot in org are occupied by old washed out CS players. Who are very arrogant to try anything. Very little to no chance for game to grow in region. :(

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According to leaks their is great amount of chance for ge to get franchise slot and idk why they will get the slot, i thought they wont, but maybe because of potential viewership

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valulrantefanboy [#2]

I feel bad for SA Esport fans. Not only Val , in all big PC Esport, DOTA/CS/LoL seems like SA scene is so isolated. Mobile/BR Esport is only thing that SA teams have chances to compete internationally

what does br e-sport means

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Faraday [#4]

I'm sure that sa will get atleast 1 spot for viewership? same as oce I assume but maybe i'm hard coping

Only one team's application has been considered as of now and it's most unlikely they will be given as there's already atleast 12 better teams in APAC than this team. We didn't even qualified for lcq so you can guess.

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AladdinINSANE [#9]

what does br e-sport means

battle royale

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AladdinINSANE [#9]

what does br e-sport means

Battle royale

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Ge has a pretty good chance

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AladdinINSANE [#9]

what does br e-sport means

Brazil esports

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SKara [#8]

According to leaks their is great amount of chance for ge to get franchise slot and idk why they will get the slot, i thought they wont, but maybe because of potential viewership

They didn't even qualify for lcq so atleast behind of 12 teams if you consider. Prx+xia+10 teams which going to play in lcq

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StockfishZ [#5]

they are just not destined to play pc games, one time they were given a chance a guy used a cheat on lan so yeah

On guy cheats and entire region isnt destined to play esports? Wow that means no region in entire world should play esports

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shahzam2004 [#14]

Brazil esports

i wish

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BattleCry [#15]

They didn't even qualify for lcq so atleast behind of 12 teams if you consider. Prx+xia+10 teams which going to play in lcq

Bruh one last time I am saying franchise slots arent given only on the basis of performance infact performance might be a secondary criteria much behind what they actually want from an org and also the next time ge will play they will play 4v5 not 3v5 lol

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SKara [#18]

Bruh one last time I am saying franchise slots arent given only on the basis of performance infact performance might be a secondary criteria much behind what they actually want from an org and also the next time ge will play they will play 4v5 not 3v5 lol

Did they already dropped Kappa ? 🤔

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BattleCry [#19]

Did they already dropped Kappa ? 🤔

No they didnt but its confirmed that kholi will play instead of kappa, kappa himself confirmed this on live stream

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wizardbot [#16]

On guy cheats and entire region isnt destined to play esports? Wow that means no region in entire world should play esports

dude admit it SA sucks at pc games, also rito is wrong not giving SA slots too

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wait till Valorant Mobile releases. India will be bangin 😎

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StockfishZ [#21]

dude admit it SA sucks at pc games, also rito is wrong not giving SA slots too

SA pc esports probably youngest in APAC.

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indian scene: viewership high but the player base low, that's why the teams can't recruit any new talents when they tried to.

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StockfishZ [#21]

dude admit it SA sucks at pc games, also rito is wrong not giving SA slots too

how is that relevant to your first comment? Yes SA sucks at pc games because they havent had enough exposure yet. Or are you trying to claim rest of the world has better genes which make them better ta video games like some emea users were claiming a few days ago. They will improve when given more chances like any other region

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No way riot will let this go. There will cent percent be an regional circuit in SA and there will be a Path to pro. I think the new system will be a hybrid franchise and not like the LoL one. We gotta wait to see.

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Elcatsu [#24]

indian scene: viewership high but the player base low, that's why the teams can't recruit any new talents when they tried to.

thats not true, fairly sure india has a high player base however their arent many ppl aware of esports side so most dont grind for it + esports is a very very unorthodox concept in india so even those who might be gifted dont even think about trying to go pro

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BattleCry [#10]

Only one team's application has been considered as of now and it's most unlikely they will be given as there's already atleast 12 better teams in APAC than this team. We didn't even qualified for lcq so you can guess.

but ur results dont matter , only how the org functions matters.

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Elcatsu [#24]

indian scene: viewership high but the player base low, that's why the teams can't recruit any new talents when they tried to.

Tbh there are some insane young individuals but our people (org owners) have some mindset that new players cant play good whereas medal tricki who nobody knows even exsisted is shining in the team, rge team full of young players were able to defeat vlt in scs, kholi getting rank 5 radiant heck even skrossi was a no namer but he (sometimes lf and skillz) is the reason ge qualified for apac every time

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SKara [#29]

Tbh there are some insane young individuals but our people (org owners) have some mindset that new players cant play good whereas medal tricki who nobody knows even exsisted is shining in the team, rge team full of young players were able to defeat vlt in scs, kholi getting rank 5 radiant heck even skrossi was a no namer but he (sometimes lf and skillz) is the reason ge qualified for apac every time

Yeah we don’t have alot of talent but with whatever talent we have orgs dont try to use it/sign those players.

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Elcatsu [#24]

indian scene: viewership high but the player base low, that's why the teams can't recruit any new talents when they tried to.

It's cuz the general mentality of Indians gaming can't be career although it's changing slowly will take another decade to catch up with APAC itself.
Having proper gaming setup is still luxury when most guys still playing on mobile phones or gaming laptops.

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SKara [#29]

Tbh there are some insane young individuals but our people (org owners) have some mindset that new players cant play good whereas medal tricki who nobody knows even exsisted is shining in the team, rge team full of young players were able to defeat vlt in scs, kholi getting rank 5 radiant heck even skrossi was a no namer but he (sometimes lf and skillz) is the reason ge qualified for apac every time

Rossi wasnt a nonamer. He was a pugstar in cs and lowly t2 player

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BattleCry [#31]

It's cuz the general mentality of Indians gaming can't be career although it's changing slowly will take another decade to catch up with APAC itself.
Having proper gaming setup is still luxury when most guys still playing on mobile phones or gaming laptops.

gaming laptops? what for? just genuinely curious

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SKara [#29]

Tbh there are some insane young individuals but our people (org owners) have some mindset that new players cant play good whereas medal tricki who nobody knows even exsisted is shining in the team, rge team full of young players were able to defeat vlt in scs, kholi getting rank 5 radiant heck even skrossi was a no namer but he (sometimes lf and skillz) is the reason ge qualified for apac every time

skrossi was already an upcoming talent in csgo.
IMO ge should just remove the old cs pros and add young raw aimers and talents paired up with an old talent who can guide them, that's what all the regions are doing.

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wizardbot [#32]

Rossi wasnt a nonamer. He was a pugstar in cs and lowly t2 player

Still most people wouldnt knew him and I heard in a vedio he was a no namer until ge but yeah I didnt followed csgo esports scene so I dont know much about this

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SKara [#20]

No they didnt but its confirmed that kholi will play instead of kappa, kappa himself confirmed this on live stream

No way Pog

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MatRiks4444 [#26]

No way riot will let this go. There will cent percent be an regional circuit in SA and there will be a Path to pro. I think the new system will be a hybrid franchise and not like the LoL one. We gotta wait to see.

Have you seen news of T2 NA teams dropping there roasters?

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SKara [#35]

Still most people wouldnt knew him and I heard in a vedio he was a no namer until ge but yeah I didnt followed csgo esports scene so I dont know much about this

Maybe rawfiul is the best example in this he was founded in vlt academy and now is easily top 3 jetts in SA all these just ahows their is talent but orgs have to risk and invest in young players

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SKara [#38]

Maybe rawfiul is the best example in this he was founded in vlt academy and now is easily top 3 jetts in SA all these just ahows their is talent but orgs have to risk and invest in young players

He was also like a t2-t3 player in csgo pretty well known not a no namer

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People cant afford pc gaming in there, what u talking about

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Shashwat_Singh [#39]

He was also like a t2-t3 player in csgo pretty well known not a no namer

Yeah they didnt found him completely new but they did something https://twitter.com/realantidotecs/status/1549687130363797506?s=20&t=ZFeqCELxoMMkFq6QbQF-_g

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India should be ok... Wait till they announce everything and honestly Riot needs to make that annoucement as soon as Masters is over.

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wizardbot [#25]

how is that relevant to your first comment? Yes SA sucks at pc games because they havent had enough exposure yet. Or are you trying to claim rest of the world has better genes which make them better ta video games like some emea users were claiming a few days ago. They will improve when given more chances like any other region

gaming genes unfortunetly exist, SEA and SA are cracked at mobile, while EU and NA suck at mobile. vice versa with PC

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Phamous [#42]

India should be ok... Wait till they announce everything and honestly Riot needs to make that annoucement as soon as Masters is over.

People will know till 30th august what is plan for next year and moat probably which orgs are selected

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SKara [#41]

Yeah they didnt found him completely new but they did something https://twitter.com/realantidotecs/status/1549687130363797506?s=20&t=ZFeqCELxoMMkFq6QbQF-_g

If your talking about no namers tricki,deadly,1tap are some of the young players who don’t come from a cs background

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Shashwat_Singh [#45]

If your talking about no namers tricki,deadly,1tap are some of the young players who don’t come from a cs background

Thnx for the info and damm they all turnd out sooo good now

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tonyhart7 [#40]

People cant afford pc gaming in there, what u talking about

Its not mainly about affording, people generally dont buy pc for gaming in india.

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Elcatsu [#33]

gaming laptops? what for? just genuinely curious

Because gaming laptops can be easily carried by students to different places or cities.Where students move for studies.

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whole game is dead dude wym :D

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The region has lots of potential but is held back by these old CS pros that doesn't give a way for the young talents lol

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RiotGunBuddy [#49]

whole game is dead dude wym :D

lol... Of course. Dead forums, dead socials, dead twitch, dead everything

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BattleCry
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RiotGunBuddy [#49]

whole game is dead dude wym :D

I am talking pro scenes. Last time I checked Valorant still adding activate players base every month in SA.

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StockfishZ [#43]

gaming genes unfortunetly exist, SEA and SA are cracked at mobile, while EU and NA suck at mobile. vice versa with PC

No they dont mate. SA and SEA are better in mobile gaming because everyone here plays mobile games while in the west everyone plays pc games and mobile esports is given no respect. Its not very hard to make the connection.

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valulrantefanboy [#2]

I feel bad for SA Esport fans. Not only Val , in all big PC Esport, DOTA/CS/LoL seems like SA scene is so isolated. Mobile/BR Esport is only thing that SA teams have chances to compete internationally

all this is due to the player's mindset and ofc some shitheads spamming and bringing down SA's reputation.

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BattleCry [#10]

Only one team's application has been considered as of now and it's most unlikely they will be given as there's already atleast 12 better teams in APAC than this team. We didn't even qualified for lcq so you can guess.

ge are more likely to get the slot man

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wizardbot [#53]

No they dont mate. SA and SEA are better in mobile gaming because everyone here plays mobile games while in the west everyone plays pc games and mobile esports is given no respect. Its not very hard to make the connection.

Correct just because people play more mobile games here, we can find more star players in mobile industry while this is vice versa in western countries, its just a matter of giving people opportunities their is no such things as gaming genes but less number of people playing the game when compared to other countries

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StockfishZ [#5]

they are just not destined to play pc games, one time they were given a chance a guy used a cheat on lan so yeah

the same guy got in a team and they were the first SA team to qualify for APAC(but yea unfortunately they didnt win)

edit: GE qualified all 3 times for APAC qualifiers

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Faraday [#4]

I'm sure that sa will get atleast 1 spot for viewership? same as oce I assume but maybe i'm hard coping

Wait genuine question does oce has a big viewership? Last time I watch on yt they have like 200 views

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SKara [#35]

Still most people wouldnt knew him and I heard in a vedio he was a no namer until ge but yeah I didnt followed csgo esports scene so I dont know much about this

Meh anyone who followed the cs scene had heard of him tbh. The only guys with no background in cs are deadly, 1tap, tricki as mentioned by the other guy. Nearly everyone else comes from cs that too from low tier teams. For examples the old TR core rellik crosshair etc used to play for UME, a team that didnt do much. Ex RGE( the first iteration that used to include whimp) used to play professional cs while being pros in valorant until mid 2021 but they had to stop because valorant calender got too hectic. Infact Paradox still plays for 2ez4 in cs. Ember and Logi however are definitely one of the decent newer talents who made the switch, they were playing for headshot esports the best cs team in india before making the switch

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QGG [#58]

Wait genuine question does oce has a big viewership? Last time I watch on yt they have like 200 views

I think twitch is more popular in OCE
Even on twitch there were like only 1-2k viewers in grand finals Oceania

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Well even if they got a spot they value friendship more than success

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