Why does south america have more slots than europe, turkey, middle east and africa combined?
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NG1nS [#5]riot fucked it, there's no fucking way NA and EU have 6 slots
and APAC has 6 SLOTS
apac has 4 which is reasonable as they have the same playerbase as EU but still SA has also 4??
zakrin72 [#6]apac has 4 which is reasonable as they have the same playerbase as EU but still SA has also 4??
APAC has 6 u don't know?
NG1nS [#7]APAC has 6 u don't know?
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1015/valorant-champions-2022 it only shows for east asia and apac, SA means south america
zakrin72 [#8]https://www.vlr.gg/event/1015/valorant-champions-2022 it only shows for east asia and apac, SA means south america
yeah look at it east asia has 3 and apac has 3
zakrin72 [#8]https://www.vlr.gg/event/1015/valorant-champions-2022 it only shows for east asia and apac, SA means south america
bro
jp 1
kr 1
lcq (kr+jp) 1
apac 2
lcq 1
zakrin72 [#10]nvm i fucking forgot DRX and Zeta lmfao what
yeah it's actually insane that APAC has 6 and EMEA and NA combined have 6
NG1nS [#11]bro
jp 1
kr 1
lcq (kr+jp) 1
apac 2
lcq 1
its so fucking stupid that korea and japan have a seperate region mena/cis/turkey dont
Listen:
all the slots were decided before masters 1 so loud performance in m1 didnt affect these slots and so this was decided prob after champs where there was emea domination
NA has 3 slots: this is good
East Asia (Japan, Korea, China) has 3 slots: this is good based on the performance of this region
APAC has 3 slots: good based on performance and population
EMEA has 3 slots: WTH, it should have 4 why does SA get the slot
SA has 4 slots: tf, like leviatan, loud, and one winner from like sa lcq (kru,nip,vivokeyd or something) is good but 2 LCQ winner slots. NAH MAN NAH
NG1nS [#5]riot fucked it, there's no fucking way NA and EU have 6 slots
and APAC has 6 SLOTS
apac combined with oce + sea + south asia
the only one that doesnt make any sense is the east asia slots
STILL the fact that BR is separated from LATAM is more bullshit imo
sentinelmain377 [#14]Listen:
all the slots were decided before masters 1 so loud performance in m1 didnt affect these slots and so this was decided prob after champs where there was emea dominationNA has 3 slots: this is good
East Asia (Japan, Korea, China) has 3 slots: this is good based on the performance of this region
APAC has 3 slots: good based on performance and population
EMEA has 3 slots: WTH, it should have 4 why does SA get the slot
SA has 4 slots: tf, like leviatan, loud, and one winner from like sa lcq (kru,nip,vivokeyd or something) is good but 2 LCQ winner slots. NAH MAN NAH
i totally agree
sentinelmain377 [#14]Listen:
all the slots were decided before masters 1 so loud performance in m1 didnt affect these slots and so this was decided prob after champs where there was emea dominationNA has 3 slots: this is good
East Asia (Japan, Korea, China) has 3 slots: this is good based on the performance of this region
APAC has 3 slots: good based on performance and population
EMEA has 3 slots: WTH, it should have 4 why does SA get the slot
SA has 4 slots: tf, like leviatan, loud, and one winner from like sa lcq (kru,nip,vivokeyd or something) is good but 2 LCQ winner slots. NAH MAN NAH
Latam & BR needs to be a combined region. the slots allocations really bs. Both regions doesn't even have any effect in pings when playing online whatsoever. Unlike APAC with SEA/OCE teams playing with 100 pings against Indians
44 country in Euro
2 country Turkey and Russia in Eurasia
54 country in Africa
14 country in Middle East
Total 114 Country in EMEA
Country pcs 114/206 (%54)
Population 2.200.000.000/ 7.900.000.000 (%30) "2nd after Asia"
It is has only 3 slot
12 country in South America
Population 650.000.000 (%8)
and It is has 4 slot
Astar [#15]apac combined with oce + sea + south asia
the only one that doesnt make any sense is the east asia slots
STILL the fact that BR is separated from LATAM is more bullshit imo
but EMEA and NA make like 40% of the player base?
NG1nS [#18]huh? where did u get that information from bro
put the source i'm pretty sure turkey has the 3d biggest player base after brazil and Na
so when did japan get all of this?
link me the source so i can be enlightened
Japan does have the highest viewership out of any region though
Astar [#17]Latam & BR needs to be a combined region. the slots allocations really bs. Both regions doesn't even have any effect in pings when playing online whatsoever. Unlike APAC with SEA/OCE teams playing with 100 pings against Indians
there is an effect in ping in latam wdym, you are just talking out of your ass
Sprouts [#22]Japan does have the highest viewership out of any region though
i do know it's high but i would like to have a source
i still think turkey and brazil have the same
but don't even try to say they're bigger than NA
NA alone is like 23% and it's growing there's no way japan have the same
u need to find a source my friend
NG1nS [#23]man promoting the solution on every thread 😂
honest work
im just sick of these threads man
minte [#26]im just sick of these threads man
yeah but riot sometimes listens so we need to create more
NG1nS [#21]but EMEA and NA make like 40% of the player base?
my brudda thinks playerbase matter, we all know our regions are third world countries. with balance system its only a matter of time that esports will be more recognized here as unpolished gem, and more new players will be attracted. riot strategy.
p.s: same as china. its only a matter of time for player base will growing there
idkbro [#24]there is an effect in ping in latam wdym, you are just talking out of your ass
like turkey and eu ?
be more specific pls with examples
Astar [#28]my brudda thinks playerbase matter, we all know our regions are third world countries. with balance system its only a matter of time that esports will be more recognized here as unpolished gem, and more new players will be attracted. riot strategy.
p.s: same as china. its only a matter of time for player base will growing there
i would love for that to happen but rn for champs they should put into consideration the current player base
Astar [#17]Latam & BR needs to be a combined region. the slots allocations really bs. Both regions doesn't even have any effect in pings when playing online whatsoever. Unlike APAC with SEA/OCE teams playing with 100 pings against Indians
ping is definitely affected because south america is huge.
Sprouts [#22]Japan does have the highest viewership out of any region though
oh wait i didn't see viewership
i think turkey can compete easily they have a huge showing when bbl plays
NG1nS [#29]like turkey and eu ?
be more specific pls with examples
way bigger difference, it might not look like it in normal maps but europe is small af, south america is huge and thats not even taking into account the fact there is north latam teams playing who would get 150+ ping against southern teams, if you dont host everything on lan then there it has to be like this because online would be impossible
NG1nS [#25]i do know it's high but i would like to have a source
i still think turkey and brazil have the same
but don't even try to say they're bigger than NA
NA alone is like 23% and it's growing there's no way japan have the same
u need to find a source my friend
NA Viewership: ~94k Avg, 217k Peak
BR Viewership: ~41k Avg, 142k Peak
EMEA Viewership: ~70k Avg, 160k Peak
JP Viewership: ~112k Avg, 292k Peak
thatpower [#32]ping is definitely affected because south america is huge.
yes, imagine a team from chile playing from santiago against a team from colombia, would be terrible and also internet is awful in south america
Sprouts [#35]NA Viewership: ~94k Avg, 217k Peak
BR Viewership: ~41k Avg, 142k Peak
EMEA Viewership: ~70k Avg, 160k Peak
JP Viewership: ~112k Avg, 292k Peak
holy fuck that's huge from only japan wtf
my last comment was talking about player base i didn't see viewership there and i replied again to correct it
so what's the player base like is there no stats?
idkbro [#24]there is an effect in ping in latam wdym, you are just talking out of your ass
its just weird for me since most other esports have BR and LATAM regions combined. and they always play online fine. example: Dota, R6, CS
idkbro [#38]yes, imagine a team from chile playing from santiago against a team from colombia, would be terrible and also internet is awful in south america
oh, ok so it's hard to host online events for the whole of SA
Astar [#17]Latam & BR needs to be a combined region. the slots allocations really bs. Both regions doesn't even have any effect in pings when playing online whatsoever. Unlike APAC with SEA/OCE teams playing with 100 pings against Indians
language barrier
NG1nS [#39]holy fuck that's huge from only japan wtf
my last comment was talking about player base i didn't see viewership there and i replied again to correct it
so what's the player base like is there no stats?
We have genuinely no clue since JP playerbase stats get clumped with APACs. I’d assume it’s pretty high though, but still smaller than NA/EMEA’s
Astar [#40]its just weird for me since most other esports have BR and LATAM regions combined. and they always play online fine. example: Dota, R6, CS
because its only southern latam teams so its fine, dota is just peruvians, r6 its all brazil and maybe some argentinians if lucky and cs is just argentinians, those countries all get good ping to brazil, its different if its colombia or even latam north countries, distance from chile capital to colombia capital is 4,446 km, thats more than new delhi to singapore distance which is 4152 km, totally not acceptable conditions for vct, and dont get me strated on if a team is from chile/argentina and the other is from mexico, then its just not just bad ping but impossible
NG1nS [#42]oh, ok so it's hard to host online events for the whole of SA
yes, maybe in the future if they add more servers in different countries and the region develops their internet conecction so there is more choices so for example a team from north latam and one from south latam could maybe play in a central server located in panama or something like that
Astar [#44]this is the only answer that making sense
totally no, just read what I said, unless you want to ignore north latam region and let it die then you cant have latam+brazil competing online together
idkbro [#46]because its only southern latam teams so its fine, dota is just peruvians, r6 its all brazil and maybe some argentinians if lucky and cs is just argentinians, those countries all get good ping to brazil, its different if its colombia or even latam north countries, distance from chile capital to colombia capital is 4,446 km, thats more than new delhi to singapore distance which is 4152 km, totally not acceptable conditions for vct, and dont get me strated on if a team is from chile/argentina and the other is from mexico, then its just not just bad ping but impossible
still doesnt change the fact the preferential treatment for brazil is huge from riot. just like how they've done to Korea and Japan (even the east asia lcq only have 1 spot with china included) . Separated region can only mean Brazil will have a chance to get 3 slots ALONE for champions.
OkOkay [#50]You said turkey and Middle East as separate things, and almost no one in Africa plays. So it’s basically EU
there is a lot of players in north africa!
Arslan [#19]44 country in Euro
2 country Turkey and Russia in Eurasia
54 country in Africa
14 country in Middle East
Total 114 Country in EMEA
Country pcs 114/206 (%54)
Population 2.200.000.000/ 7.900.000.000 (%30) "2nd after Asia"
It is has only 3 slot12 country in South America
Population 650.000.000 (%8)
and It is has 4 slot
Cry about it
RickyIndian [#55]all those slots for none of the teams to make it out of groups
KRU and LEV own you and your whole family tree
NG1nS [#5]riot fucked it, there's no fucking way NA and EU have 6 slots
and APAC has 6 SLOTS
why did ASIA get 6 slots? cuz we have China now entering the valo scene, they keep running local tournaments even though Riot doesn't support them. give them a chance bruh, u want this game die in Asia to like CS did before ? cmon bro
NG1nS [#3]bro you know we're talking player base for each region not the freaking population
But maybe they also have much player base
NG1nS [#12]yeah it's actually insane that APAC has 6 and EMEA and NA combined have 6
why insane ? not really..
NG1nS [#12]yeah it's actually insane that APAC has 6 and EMEA and NA combined have 6
uhh i don't know maybe because apac is literally the biggest region
Astar [#51]still doesnt change the fact the preferential treatment for brazil is huge from riot. just like how they've done to Korea and Japan (even the east asia lcq only have 1 spot with china included) . Separated region can only mean Brazil will have a chance to get 3 slots ALONE for champions.
Stems from the fact BR is basically the last region playing CSGO other than EU/CIS.
Riot was trying to promote it there because BR was not up to expectations last champions. They wanted to have a contender from there, judging from its hypothetical potential.
Turns out Riot doesn't have to try so much after all. Regions are quite balanced in VLR. South America, as of now, deserves 3 seeds at best imo.
Astar [#15]apac combined with oce + sea + south asia
the only one that doesnt make any sense is the east asia slots
STILL the fact that BR is separated from LATAM is more bullshit imo
They combined East Asia and APAC LCQ last year, but this year China is joining. It's fair to give them a more manageable chance at least.
Don't know much about their level, but KR or JP will probably still get the slot.
NG1nS [#12]yeah it's actually insane that APAC has 6 and EMEA and NA combined have 6
APAC here means the entirety of Asia. You do know how large the whole region is, right ? If China starts playing this game probably, they alone will probably get 3 seeds.
VAL_OMEGALUL_RANT [#60]SA = Loud, LEV, KRU,... ? 4th team will be trash, 3 slots was perfect
a fluke can happen and its possible we dont even see kru lmao
mino [#65]APAC here means the entirety of Asia. You do know how large the whole region is, right ? If China starts playing this game probably, they alone will probably get 3 seeds.
huh? where are the chinese slots? do you understand what i'm talking about ? india is so fucking huge why don't they have 3 slots to themselves?
ur logic is very dumb, we're talking about the current player base not world population or 2025 expectations
luckypleb [#62]uhh i don't know maybe because apac is literally the biggest region
biggest in what population? doesn't matter
player base? no way in hell
NG1nS [#69]biggest in what population? doesn't matter
player base? no way in hell
Area, indonesia alone is the size of whole europe. 6 slots of APAC is a combination of East Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, Oceania (whole other continent).
luckypleb [#70]Area, indonesia alone is the size of whole europe. 6 slots of APAC is a combination of East Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, Oceania (whole other continent).
sigh, i just mentioned it doesn't matter how much area or people u have if they're not playing the game
so it's based on PLAYER BASE PLAYER BASE
PEOPLE PLAYING VALORANT NOT THE NUMBER OF BABIES AND PARENTS
NG1nS [#71]sigh, i just mentioned it doesn't matter how much area or people u have if they're not playing the game
so it's based on PLAYER BASE PLAYER BASE
PEOPLE PLAYING VALORANT NOT THE NUMBER OF BABIES AND PARENTS
Think of it this way, riot divided APAC into 2 just like Americas and give them both equal opportunity, 3 slots just like other regions except LATAM.
luckypleb [#73]Think of it this way, riot divided APAC into 2 just like Americas and give them both equal opportunity, 3 slots just like other regions except LATAM.
think of it this way riot divided EMEA into multiple regions with TURKEY( that according to 2021 stats has the 3rd biggest player base) and CIS and didn't give them any slots like unlike other regions
so how is this fair?
idkbro [#46]because its only southern latam teams so its fine, dota is just peruvians, r6 its all brazil and maybe some argentinians if lucky and cs is just argentinians, those countries all get good ping to brazil, its different if its colombia or even latam north countries, distance from chile capital to colombia capital is 4,446 km, thats more than new delhi to singapore distance which is 4152 km, totally not acceptable conditions for vct, and dont get me strated on if a team is from chile/argentina and the other is from mexico, then its just not just bad ping but impossible
dont get me strated on if a team is from chile/argentina and the other is from mexico, then its just not just bad ping but impossible
Why would anyone get you started with such a stupid take? (besides yourself I suppose) Read that again, slowly.. and remember you're talking about the continent of South America. Mexico would be in the region of their own continent.
NG1nS [#69]biggest in what population? doesn't matter
player base? no way in hell
so what do u think matters ? big region ? EMEA/NA ? why u think ur region big region huh ? it doesn't make sense to call region minor or big region, where littery this is a new game and this game hasn't even been running for 2 years
NG1nS [#67]huh? where are the chinese slots? do you understand what i'm talking about ? india is so fucking huge why don't they have 3 slots to themselves?
ur logic is very dumb, we're talking about the current player base not world population or 2025 expectations
where are the chinese slots? that why riot give APAC and East Asia separated for China to qualif
it's ok. the game is pretty much dying in europe we can only thank riot for constantly undermining us.
I don't even know what sort of motivation do these EU teams have to compete in such a difficult league with such low viewership only for THREE teams to actually make it to LAN (the entire year). Can't wait to see all the EU orgs pull the plug on this riot cesspool.
zakrin72 [#66]a fluke can happen and its possible we dont even see kru lmao
If you see playoffs, in BR Loud always win comfortably and in LATAM the only struggle is between LEV/KRU. All other BR and LATAM teams get stomped
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