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Sentinels should bite the bullet

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Shownu

Sign sinatraa and pick up an igl in replacement for Shahzam whether its mocking, zander or whoever from tier 2 scene that focuses on actual calls and strats.

I understand the PR battle with reincorporating sinatraa back into the roster but they are already down bad going 0-5, might as well take the PR hit and atleast perform well.

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Genuinely what makes you think Sinatraa is the key to performing well?? I really doubt he’d be significantly better than other NA sova players, and there’s plenty of young talent that would be just as good.

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zardinez [#2]

Genuinely what makes you think Sinatraa is the key to performing well?? I really doubt he’d be significantly better than other NA sova players, and there’s plenty of young talent that would be just as good.

no way you said that in all seriousness. Sinatraa doesn't just play Sova, he can play Raze, Breach and other agents better than TenZ and adds more to the team than just onetricks trying to aim diff.

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Idk how much time itll take for sinatraa to get reintegrated, also going to be hard to find a flex igl if your idea is to drop kanpeki. Which means sinatraa would have to flex and then they need another igl on initiator. I would probably say poach as he was really good on faze even before signing poised, or even zander and do a role shuffle. That way you can have zander for early rounding and dapr on mid rounding, which is a similar dynamic as what v1 had last stage.

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Cresp [#4]

Idk how much time itll take for sinatraa to get reintegrated, also going to be hard to find a flex igl if your idea is to drop kanpeki. Which means sinatraa would have to flex and then they need another igl on initiator. I would probably say poach as he was really good on faze even before signing poised, or even zander and do a role shuffle. That way you can have zander for early rounding and dapr on mid rounding, which is a similar dynamic as what v1 had last stage.

sinatraa on initiators, Zander on smokes, Sick flex, dapr sentinel - Chamber, Tenz on Jett/Chamber.

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Shownu [#5]

sinatraa on initiators, Zander on smokes, Sick flex, dapr sentinel - Chamber, Tenz on Jett/Chamber.

Yeah this could work, especially since dapr has been really good at midrounding before. I personally think that either way their biggest problem has currently been preparation. In champions they were well prepared against liquid and they played so much better than they did rn, even if they lost. I dont think their midrounding has ever been an issue, but more of a strong point. Its just the way they start rounds and the lack of idea or image that holds them back. Also chemistry.

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zardinez [#2]

Genuinely what makes you think Sinatraa is the key to performing well?? I really doubt he’d be significantly better than other NA sova players, and there’s plenty of young talent that would be just as good.

bro you hate sinatraa so much lmfaoooooooo

Every thread hes mentioned here youre asking "why sinatraa??? just asking why you think hes good?????"

Everyone in the world, regardless of your feelings getting hurt KNOWS that he is a solid player and would make 90% of teams better, youre just a sad loser and refuse to accept it

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sinaatra and stewie2k, I already gave the right call, only way to save SentineLs

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number1_MIBR_hater [#7]

sinaatra and stewie2k, I already gave the right call, only way to save SentineLs

Stewie and Tarik are going to 100T though

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Shownu [#3]

no way you said that in all seriousness. Sinatraa doesn't just play Sova, he can play Raze, Breach and other agents better than TenZ and adds more to the team than just onetricks trying to aim diff.

So much W omg shownu my sire

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babysasuke [#7]

bro you hate sinatraa so much lmfaoooooooo

Every thread hes mentioned here youre asking "why sinatraa??? just asking why you think hes good?????"

Everyone in the world, regardless of your feelings getting hurt KNOWS that he is a solid player and would make 90% of teams better, youre just a sad loser and refuse to accept it

Fax

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Shownu [#3]

no way you said that in all seriousness. Sinatraa doesn't just play Sova, he can play Raze, Breach and other agents better than TenZ and adds more to the team than just onetricks trying to aim diff.

that was the worst comparison ever, tenz and sinatraa has different agent pool and are comfortable in different roles (tenz would shit on sin with jett, neon, chamber, yoru and reyna), a fair comparison would be with either sick or kanpeki and even then you cant really say he is better coz he hasnt played pro for years, he could be dogshit for all we know. TLDR : We cant say he is better or worse or will make sen better until he actually plays for sen (which i hope happens)

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thorking1234567899 [#8]

So much W omg shownu my sire

You have been noticed young steward

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babysasuke [#9]

Stewie and Tarik are going to 100T though

Source: I made it the fuck up

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thorking1234567899
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noxx [#10]

that was the worst comparison ever, tenz and sinatraa has different agent pool and are comfortable in different roles (tenz would shit on sin with jett, neon, chamber, yoru and reyna), a fair comparison would be with either sick or kanpeki and even then you cant really say he is better coz he hasnt played pro for years, he could be dogshit for all we know. TLDR : We cant say he is better or worse or will make sen better until he actually plays for sen (which i hope happens)

Flair checks out sen fanboy,keep crying

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noxx [#10]

that was the worst comparison ever, tenz and sinatraa has different agent pool and are comfortable in different roles (tenz would shit on sin with jett, neon, chamber, yoru and reyna), a fair comparison would be with either sick or kanpeki and even then you cant really say he is better coz he hasnt played pro for years, he could be dogshit for all we know. TLDR : We cant say he is better or worse or will make sen better until he actually plays for sen (which i hope happens)

Well at least you hoped that sinatraa plays for sen so you're good for now :)

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sinatraa hasn't played pro for like 2 years what makes you think he's still good? might as well sign some fucking random t2 pro at least you'll know they're on the scene.

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thorking1234567899 [#13]

Flair checks out sen fanboy,keep crying

will do thorking1234567899

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Shownu
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noxx [#10]

that was the worst comparison ever, tenz and sinatraa has different agent pool and are comfortable in different roles (tenz would shit on sin with jett, neon, chamber, yoru and reyna), a fair comparison would be with either sick or kanpeki and even then you cant really say he is better coz he hasnt played pro for years, he could be dogshit for all we know. TLDR : We cant say he is better or worse or will make sen better until he actually plays for sen (which i hope happens)

Reading comprehension is hard, I only stated how valuable sinatraa is. No use for an aimer if he can't adapt to the meta and contribute to the team. Dropping 30 on Breeze which is an aim map doesn't automatically make it okay to continue mediocrity.

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Dokka [#12]

Source: I made it the fuck up

nah nadeshot texted me and let me know, or Matt as I call him

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Shownu [#17]

Reading comprehension is hard, I only stated how valuable sinatraa is. No use for an aimer if he can't adapt to the meta and contribute to the team. Dropping 30 on Breeze which is an aim map doesn't automatically make it okay to continue mediocrity.

Rare Shownu W

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babysasuke [#7]

bro you hate sinatraa so much lmfaoooooooo

Every thread hes mentioned here youre asking "why sinatraa??? just asking why you think hes good?????"

Everyone in the world, regardless of your feelings getting hurt KNOWS that he is a solid player and would make 90% of teams better, youre just a sad loser and refuse to accept it

Rare W

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Slashyiguess [#15]

sinatraa hasn't played pro for like 2 years what makes you think he's still good? might as well sign some fucking random t2 pro at least you'll know they're on the scene.

He hasn't played professionally for 1 year. Last game was 2021. Its not like he dropped to Diamond, he has been active on the scene, watch parties everytime and also plays at the highest level in ranked.

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Shownu [#17]

Reading comprehension is hard, I only stated how valuable sinatraa is. No use for an aimer if he can't adapt to the meta and contribute to the team. Dropping 30 on Breeze which is an aim map doesn't automatically make it okay to continue mediocrity.

it seems reading is hard for you too because i only stated that sin and tenz play different roles and it isnt fair to compare them and also he dropped a 40 and multiple 30s (only reason he is "one tricking" right now is because his team wants him to play the agents jett)

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noxx [#20]

it seems reading is hard for you too because i only stated that sin and tenz play different roles and it isnt fair to compare them and also he dropped a 40 and multiple 30s (only reason he is "one tricking" right now is because his team wants him to play the agents jett)

Is Raze a duelist or initiator? TenZ Raze vs Sinatraa Raze LUL

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nutab1e
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idk if sinatraa really has the work ethic required to get sen into form, seems like he pretty much has the same problem as the rest of sentinels

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Slashyiguess [#15]

sinatraa hasn't played pro for like 2 years what makes you think he's still good? might as well sign some fucking random t2 pro at least you'll know they're on the scene.

It’ll take time for him to integrate himself, but it doesnt mean he cant perform as well as he used to. Any good player can get back in form just give them time.

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nutab1e [#22]

idk if sinatraa really has the work ethic required to get sen into form, seems like he pretty much has the same problem as the rest of sentinels

Dude couldn't play legally for sometime but he doesn't have work ethic bscause he was forced to stream KEKW

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nutab1e [#22]

idk if sinatraa really has the work ethic required to get sen into form, seems like he pretty much has the same problem as the rest of sentinels

Im not sure about that because he went from a good dps in ow to the best in the world in only a year. Guy can definitely put in the work. Its a question of if he does.

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Cresp [#25]

Im not sure about that because he went from a good dps in ow to the best in the world in only a year. Guy can definitely put in the work. Its a question of if he does.

to me it seems like it was mostly from mechanical skill that he got to the top in valorant so quickly. The way he describes his time on the team it seems like they didn't work very hard. Could easily just be him trolling on stream but I still don't trust his work ethic

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nutab1e [#26]

to me it seems like it was mostly from mechanical skill that he got to the top in valorant so quickly. The way he describes his time on the team it seems like they didn't work very hard. Could easily just be him trolling on stream but I still don't trust his work ethic

What i mean was that on overwatch he demonstrated that he was able to grind out the time to become mvp in only a year. The first year he was known as a toxic mechanically gifted player, but over time he was known as a great teammate that was able to demonstrate great flexibility and early understanding of the games changes. This type of thing only happens when a player is able to put in work and grind out with his team.

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Cresp [#27]

What i mean was that on overwatch he demonstrated that he was able to grind out the time to become mvp in only a year. The first year he was known as a toxic mechanically gifted player, but over time he was known as a great teammate that was able to demonstrate great flexibility and early understanding of the games changes. This type of thing only happens when a player is able to put in work and grind out with his team.

you're probably right, then I'd say sentinels probably needs more hands on management to make the same thing happen in valorant

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nutab1e [#28]

you're probably right, then I'd say sentinels probably needs more hands on management to make the same thing happen in valorant

Definetely agree and i think part of his success was the fact that the shcok picked up the best coach in the league the second season. And overall the shock was a very well managed team, whilst sentinels looks very chaotic rn.

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jawn
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sinatraa isn't going to play competitively again, stop the hopium

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Shownu [#21]

Is Raze a duelist or initiator? TenZ Raze vs Sinatraa Raze LUL

i mean i agree that tenZ raze is one of the worst raze ever but that doesnt mean that he is not good with other duelists maybe have sick play raze on split or Sinatraa as u said and have tenz play sage or something ?

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Shownu
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nematoma [#33]

i mean i agree that tenZ raze is one of the worst raze ever but that doesnt mean that he is not good with other duelists maybe have sick play raze on split or Sinatraa as u said and have tenz play sage or something ?

He played Yoru, dogshit. He is a Jett onetrick.

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