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Lucas Rojo says the problem in G2 is Nukkye

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craxfps

https://youtu.be/XK-l5JdWwLw?t=3645

IMO: nukkye is not the problem in g2 and everyone in g2 are all humble with diff personalities

Facts:

  • Nukkye does not have any involvement with role changes in G2,
  • Nukkye was forced onto IGL role and has changed his role many times for betterment of his team.
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Shownu
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Lemme guess Mixwell is the best player?

#3
Elcatsu
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Mind translating?

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craxfps
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Shownu [#2]

Lemme guess Mixwell is the best player?

all i know is nukkye defo aint the problem lmao

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helohelo
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nukkye just seems the type have a huge ego yk also with the amount of times mixwell had role changes I wouldn't be surprised if nukkye had somewhat of an involvement in that

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craxfps
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Elcatsu [#3]

Mind translating?

im not spanish myself, spanish friend told me abt this video and used auto translate on vid but he basically says nukkye is the problem in g2

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NG1nS
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offense but lucas rojo is a dumbass and a bad coach
don't get me wrong i hate nukkye's personality but i highly suspect he's the main issue

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craxfps
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helohelo [#5]

nukkye just seems the type have a huge ego yk also with the amount of times mixwell had role changes I wouldn't be surprised if nukkye had somewhat of an involvement in that

ik him outside of games, hes alot more considerate and humble, he just like that on games

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Mkin11
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Shownu [#2]

Lemme guess Mixwell is the best player?

Nope, he said mixwell is also not playing at the expected level

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craxfps
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NG1nS [#8]

offense but lucas rojo is a dumbass and a bad coach
don't get me wrong i hate nukkye's personality but i highly suspect he's the main issue

trust me outside of games nukkye is nice

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BBL_Wtcn
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craxfps [#11]

trust me outside of games nukkye is nice

I don’t think anybody doubts he is a nice person outside of the game but in game personality matters more in esports

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BBL_Wtcn [#12]

I don’t think anybody doubts he is a nice person outside of the game but in game personality matters more in esports

i mean he's just showing a bit of him being cold to the audience, not team wise

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craxfps [#6]

im not spanish myself, spanish friend told me abt this video and used auto translate on vid but he basically says nukkye is the problem in g2

foxie and lucas talked about:
-nukkye baiting and never traiding or creating space
-meddo and avova are basically the same player
-avova playing in the wrong positions(thats why maybe he is underperforming)
-hoody doing good
-mixwell havent been playing good recently
they also talked about how bad g2 plays and they dont understand some stuff because pipson is a good coach

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Honestly i never really followed g2 but their playstyle in the last year and before that aswell always was the same as Acend had. They just play with the flow and shoot call thats what g2 always did with mixwell. And it worked everytime for a while maybe pipson want to build a more strategy structured team and there are differences between them or idk. Just a guess but its a big inside problem4sure

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In LRojo's opinion, the exit of Nukkye could fix two very important things for G2:
-The role's problem
-Creates a space in the team for an IGL

I understand his point, but that change would mean a loss of firepower and there are other players who are more problematic than nukkye on the team. Just don't force him to IGL and bring the role to another teammate, or bench meddo and bring a real IGL + a real coaching staff, bc the pipson method is not working at all.

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xnvr57 [#14]

foxie and lucas talked about:
-nukkye baiting and never traiding or creating space
-meddo and avova are basically the same player
-avova playing in the wrong positions(thats why maybe he is underperforming)
-hoody doing good
-mixwell havent been playing good recently
they also talked about how bad g2 plays and they dont understand some stuff because pipson is a good coach

foxie?

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Foxie
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xnvr57 [#14]

foxie and lucas talked about:
-nukkye baiting and never traiding or creating space
-meddo and avova are basically the same player
-avova playing in the wrong positions(thats why maybe he is underperforming)
-hoody doing good
-mixwell havent been playing good recently
they also talked about how bad g2 plays and they dont understand some stuff because pipson is a good coach

Not exactly what was spoken about,

Nukkye isn't someone that will create space and open the game for his team, individually hes amazing, but his playstyle is more reserved and he won't be 2nd in,

Meddo as a sentinel creates no space, and plays passive the whole game whether it be attack or defense, by not creating space / pressure, the enemy team never has to worry about anything other than the area the core is defaulting.

The roster consists of 4 passive / neutral players, and 1 aggressive when giving a direct comparison to other teams theres usually a more equal balance, for example, old g2 consisted of Patitek, ardiis, mixwell, davidp and pyth. Pyth and david passive / neutral, mixwell ardiis and pati aggressive, allowing them to trade efficiently and put pressure on the map effectively, now it feels like players that play to create space on G2 are being left to hang.

Never said I don't understand how they play, or that Pipson is a good coach, I said they have an experienced team and it seems that with a few vods look at you'd be able to identify that they're currently not doing defaults correctly, they rely on set pushes and optimally they need an IGL to help them create a real gameplan, which doesn't require sitting afk.

Nothing about individual performances have been mentioned because you can't expect people to play good in system that doesn't make sense or that doesn't work, I solely talked on things that don't involve statistical data, more on tempo, space, understanding, gameplan, coaching, and positional value, aswell as lack of a leader.

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As much as I like nukkye's raze, I agree with him. There is something wrong in the team and it has something to do with nukkye

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NG1nS [#8]

offense but lucas rojo is a dumbass and a bad coach
don't get me wrong i hate nukkye's personality but i highly suspect he's the main issue

"No offense"

Proceeds to insult somebody and say he hates someone else

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helohelo [#5]

nukkye just seems the type have a huge ego yk also with the amount of times mixwell had role changes I wouldn't be surprised if nukkye had somewhat of an involvement in that

huh? you know nukkye changed roles a lot for the team too?

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craxfps
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no_noise_979 [#21]

huh? you know nukkye changed roles a lot for the team too?

idk anything about that i know he doesnt have an huge ego

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craxfps
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helohelo [#5]

nukkye just seems the type have a huge ego yk also with the amount of times mixwell had role changes I wouldn't be surprised if nukkye had somewhat of an involvement in that

Actually now I know for sure he doesn't have anything to do with role changes

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Foxie [#18]

Not exactly what was spoken about,

Nukkye isn't someone that will create space and open the game for his team, individually hes amazing, but his playstyle is more reserved and he won't be 2nd in,

Meddo as a sentinel creates no space, and plays passive the whole game whether it be attack or defense, by not creating space / pressure, the enemy team never has to worry about anything other than the area the core is defaulting.

The roster consists of 4 passive / neutral players, and 1 aggressive when giving a direct comparison to other teams theres usually a more equal balance, for example, old g2 consisted of Patitek, ardiis, mixwell, davidp and pyth. Pyth and david passive / neutral, mixwell ardiis and pati aggressive, allowing them to trade efficiently and put pressure on the map effectively, now it feels like players that play to create space on G2 are being left to hang.

Never said I don't understand how they play, or that Pipson is a good coach, I said they have an experienced team and it seems that with a few vods look at you'd be able to identify that they're currently not doing defaults correctly, they rely on set pushes and optimally they need an IGL to help them create a real gameplan, which doesn't require sitting afk.

Nothing about individual performances have been mentioned because you can't expect people to play good in system that doesn't make sense or that doesn't work, I solely talked on things that don't involve statistical data, more on tempo, space, understanding, gameplan, coaching, and positional value, aswell as lack of a leader.

thanks for the tldr
tbh i would agree with you cuz ever since g2 dropped scream they have been on a decline. ever since they dropped scream they have become choke2 and have become cursed. the stats prove so

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eventonly [#19]

As much as I like nukkye's raze, I agree with him. There is something wrong in the team and it has something to do with nukkye

which is?

#26
hekzy
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-meddo -mixwell +igl +entry duelist

#27
Ibis
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Nukkye is not the player some people on this forum think he is. This guy is very good , but not a top 5-10 player itw but g2 has him as his „carry“

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orqn
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Ibis [#27]

Nukkye is not the player some people on this forum think he is. This guy is very good , but not a top 5-10 player itw but g2 has him as his „carry“

nukkye is a top 10 player

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craxfps
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Ibis [#27]

Nukkye is not the player some people on this forum think he is. This guy is very good , but not a top 5-10 player itw but g2 has him as his „carry“

are you mad that he beat your team?

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idkbro
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problem is roster just doesnt make any sense ngl, same as jamppi and friends

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NG1nS
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Mortadelo [#20]

"No offense"

Proceeds to insult somebody and say he hates someone else

i edited it 😃 u happy now donatello?

#32
babysasuke
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NG1nS [#31]

i edited it 😃 u happy now donatello?

now its perfect

Offense but Mortadelo should go cry about semantics somewhere else

#32
Mortadelo
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NG1nS [#31]

i edited it 😃 u happy now donatello?

Yup, thank you, much better

#33
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#32]

now its perfect

Offense but Mortadelo should go cry about semantics somewhere else

It’s called contradicting yourself and having no idea what you’re talking about not semantics

And I’m not crying nor defending anybody, actually my friend is who is salty cause Rojo called old GUILD paycheck stealers. I never said what my opinion on this is

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Shownu [#2]

Lemme guess Mixwell is the best player?

Mixwell actually might one of the best player after this game , godwell is on

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idkbro [#30]

problem is roster just doesnt make any sense ngl, same as jamppi and friends

Yeah both of the teams don't have an IGL. Both of them don't have an entry player. For me TL and G2 are equal

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