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How to fix sentinels

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#1
BetaSahara

It is painful to watch a once great valorant team fall like this while watching other fallen teams get back on to their footing. So I hope Sentinels would do some of the following changes to get them back on top again.

1)Rework the entire sentinels strategy

Right now sentinels kept putting wrong people on wrong roles. Tenz stated in one stream that he doesn't like rifling that much and as stats can show, clearly he isn't comfortable on raze at all.

Shazam feels like the weird one here: his igl and skills isn't terrible(none of the sentinels players are bad), but his comfort agents are clearly conflicting with Tenz a lot(both jett and op main) and he definitely isn't that good at initiators. This hasn't been a problem before as Shazam and tenz each take a duelist on maps like Icebox and breeze, but as the meta develops into a 2 initiator+raze+chamber meta it is clear that one of them has to go, and its clearly Shazam that has to go here

But what if he didn't?

Introducing the solution: Paper rex.

Paper rex has been known to be a really aggressive team and got good results out of it(eliminating prime guard and G2, 4th place in masters) and ran double duelists on some maps like Haven and Bind.

What if they copied their playstyle(tenz like f0rsaken with his op, jett, and yoru picks, dapr as benkai with his sentinel, and you can fill in the rest). We know that sentinels are full of cracked players and really, a lot of paper rex's strat devolves down to "jingg and f0rsaken go kill" which is like sentinel's "tenz go kill" strat right now. This strat could surprise a lot of the NA teams and give them a great fighting chance.

2)Get Sliggy in

Team liquid share a lot of similarity with paper rex in that the strat usually devolves into "we're cracked, and we will murder you" and sliggy helped set up that playstyle in team liquid. Adding sliggy as the head coach could help them refine the "cracked players go kill" strat, and plus, rawkus isn't that good of a coach anyways.

Edit: Also he's the one who made double op viable, perhaps he could make Shaz and Tenz both use op and make it work?

Overall, no hate to the players, but I believe these are the strats and changes sentinels needs to get back to the top again.

tldr: get sentinels to play like Raper Rex and get sliggy to mold them into that playstyle

#2
FoechiGG
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Im happy for you or sorry that happened

#3
WinterZ
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W fix + come ShahZam if u wanna improve ur team

#4
number1_ScreaM_fan
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Rebuild kekw

#5
ItsMeDio
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Introducing the solution: Paper rex.

Paper rex has been known to be a really aggressive team and got good results out of it(eliminating prime guard and G2, 4th place in masters) and ran double duelists on some maps like Haven and Bind.

What if they copied their playstyle(tenz like f0rsaken with his op, jett, and yoru picks, dapr as benkai with his sentinel, and you can fill in the rest). We know that sentinels are full of cracked players and really, a lot of paper rex's strat devolves down to "jingg and f0rsaken go kill" which is like sentinel's "tenz go kill" strat right now. This strat could surprise a lot of the NA teams and give them a great fighting chance.

i genuinely think this solution can solve their short-term problem. they have lost 2 match right now, and this solution might be able to try. they have to very aggressive & taking a lot of space in the map. It's up to their igl rn.

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Desperado_o
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W post and honestly idk why sentinels are shying away from tenz on reyna and double duelist comps just because its not the meta anymore.. But PRX have shown that you don't need to play according to the meta to dominate

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Martinyte
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It woulnt work in NA bro. Teams using chamber, kayo, skye, breach. Like as reyna what can you do if you dont multi frag out? you get kayo flashed and knived GGs reyna is out for the round. Also breach is used on more maps now so Reyna cant just push and frag out. Reyna could work on breeze but like why would you pick her instead off jett when jett would bring more to the team then reyna would and even raze is better then reyna on bind and other maps. Reyna isnt great anymore just because the meta is very different and harder. Also PRX is in apac and NA is like 10 times harder.

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BetaSahara
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1) If what you said is true, then PRX wouldn't comfortably Guard or G2(champions of both regions ignoring FPX) and they will simply die in 7-8th place. Sure APAC is easy, but PRX is also playing on the International stage which is 2x harder than the NA region itself.

2) There is only one team in NA that played against this playstyle and it was the Guard who lost. The only team that could potentially counter this playstyle was Optic since they won against DRX who countered Paper Rex pretty well. If Sentinels follow the meta and don't make some drastic changes, they will only be a worse Optic with worse players who can't play their role correctly (Shaz kept on playing initiators as duelists and Tenz straight up can't play raze)

Although I agree with Reyna being a questionable pick. Honestly, it should just stay in ranked and not get picked in pro play a lot. (Reyna is like Chamber where she is extremely selfish and relies on her team to set up except that chamber has a flank watcher while Reyna has shit flash, and Chamber's Util is just leagues beyond Reyna's while being able to get a great economical advantage too)

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Martinyte
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Bro oke we all get it fans wanna see sentinels on to. But give them time. They cant change shet overnight. They got rawkus back now and slowly going to get better. Also you talking about another coach... Doesnt make sense to me, getting in sliggy wont really help them get to top result in. Also sliggy is a top teir coach still doesnt make sense to change rawkus to a second coach now. Anyway i do agree their comp need to change, I feel like tenz should play chamber full time but also shahz has said on his stream that if tenz says he is playing the chamber he can and nobody would say no. I just hope you guys take a chill pill and let the players play and figure out stuff with rawkus. It takes time to get good or and get #1. Also dont think you know everything what they are trying out or what they do in scrims etc. Also paper rex playstyle wouldnt work in NA cause teams are way harder. Paper rex played great in icelands but their comp wouldnt work in NA.

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Itchy
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Can’t be patient forever

#8
JettEnjoyer
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Didn't read

#10
Ullyr
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sorry prx play such a unique brand of valorant its not possible to copy...

#28
Itchy
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You don’t know that if you haven’t seen them try

#11
Martinyte
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I AGREE! Finally someone with a brain!

#13
raafi
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W, i think sentinel really need a REAL coach. I got no idea whyy they still don't make any big changes.

#14
YeaUrMum
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they probably know better than us, leave it to them lmao

#16
throwaway
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LOOL its been so long since they were better than anyone, they have a massive problem and clearly dont know how to solve it

#17
Giannero
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They don't know better at all lmfao, if they knew better than they would not be about to go 0-5/1-4 in groups

#31
Martinyte
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You are lost dude! i bet your hardstuck gold 2. And if you were in the shoes to play any team in the group stage you wont get a round in! so before you come here saying that top players dont know anything get out of gold dude then talk!

#32
Giannero
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Never been gold lmfao I'm diamond, how can you say they know better if they're faling over and over again and just make up excuses for it everytime lol

#15
WezleySnipezz
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A strategy that doesn't involve sinatraa. Props

#18
pokedyo
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that playstyle also has a lot of coordination while being fast paced which is very hard to achieve, so i dont think that theyll be able to practice it enough and execute it like how prx does in officials

#19
JettEnjoyer
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Tenz stated in one stream that he doesn't like rifling that much

Totally washed

#20
DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN
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wouldnt work at all cause while prx definetly runs it down, theres still a lot of method to the madness. their style relies a lot on the supporting cast (benkai/mindfreak/d4v41) to help them make the aggressive plays they do. if theres one thing that sentinels lacks its teamplay/synergy.

tenz is pretty fearless in his aggression but forsaken/jinggg do it better and with more discipline. i would rather have sick play a 2nd duelist than any other player on the team because he still has good mechanics.

#21
sazanka
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Sliggy said he wants to be on a team of no lifers i don't think this is possible

#22
Elcatsu
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Disband is how u fix sentinels

#23
Fluffyy
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Tldr: delete twitch

#24
vet1kas
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-sick +jks

#25
kapteN
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bring in sliggy and you'll see comps of 3 sentinels, 1 initiator and 1 controller or some shit

#26
JustSomeGuy
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rare good take on vlr

#29
Kiklop
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Sliggy is taking 2-6 month pause

#30
Wronghand
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Great idea to improve the current system. Good stuff.

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