1- Acend
2- Gambit
3- Fnatic
4- Team Liquid
5- FunPlus Phoenix
6- G2
7- SuperMassive Blaze
8- Guild
9- NaVi
10- Oxygen
1- Acend
2- Gambit
3- Fnatic
4- Team Liquid
5- FunPlus Phoenix
6- G2
7- SuperMassive Blaze
8- Guild
9- NaVi
10- Oxygen
top MENA team btw. The region still has a long way to go before becoming relevant
They would destory this fluked fokus team
just wait for next year when they invite mena team to real enviroment like other teams
Give fair opportunity to all regions then call IT EMEA then you have this
1- Fnatic
2- Gambit
3- Ascend
4- Team Liquid
5- FunPlus Phoenix
6- G2
7- BBL
8- Falcons
9- NaVi
10- RAAD
How can u put fnatic on 1. when their only achievement is placing 2nd in first international masters, while Acend has masters EU + champions and Gambit masters 3 + 2nd place champions.
FALCONS RAAD LMFAO
BBL is also not Top 7 all time. Not even Top 10
fokus 13-2 13-3 your best team and you put them on 8 and 10. 0/8 list and bait lmao
bruh you have no idea what you are talking about
stick to 5 dualist region
Paper rex got lucky once and you think they are good its fucking funny
0 achemient in your whole life from your region in any game
you think valorant is diffrent? because you got lucky once you dumb 10iq rat
i don't follow ur opinions, but cryo is overrated and you will see that soon i promise
Why do you hate Cryo? he is not the best player but definitely top 5 in NA
gambit >>>>>>> acend if we are talking about skill
acend sure won champions but hnestly a fluke, still the team with the biggest achievements tho
ur saying gambit better than but acend won vs gambit more
https://www.vlr.gg/49278/acend-vs-gambit-esports-red-bull-home-ground-2-qf/?game=56165&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/51296/acend-vs-gambit-esports-valorant-champions-2021-gf/?game=57985&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/30769/acend-vs-gambit-esports-champions-tour-stage-3-emea-challengers-playoffs-lbf/?game=47931&tab=overview
people saying that champions was fluke but actually it's not. Acend only struggled vs vivo keyd and gambit at finals while gambit gave 1 map vs every team they played. Gambit was only good at masters 2 berlin.
why are we bringing up redbull homeground now?
Acend has always struggled and was literally carried by zeek and cNed most of the time, only time they were actually all on point was at champions after that vivo keyd game.
and for gambit they have always played close games against much weaker oppositiong like against CR in masters 3 aswell, doesnt make up for the fact that they were consistently winning big matches, making huge comebacks and were never out of question. how was gambit only good in masters 2 berlin? btw it was masters 3
they won CIS masters (tbf wasnt that hard) then got 3rd in challengers 2 (where acend didnt even qualify to) won challengers 3, won masters with a 3-0 finals, got second in a close game against acend in champs, and now in challengersw one they didnt qualify for masters becaue of 0.02 seconds and that even after playing like 6 games in 2 days with way less preparation.
now lets look at acend
won masters 1 EU
missed out on challengers 2 (didnt even make it close to challengers)
made a huge roster change by getting zeek
made masters 3 as the 3rd out of 4, got second in their group and top 8 in total
won champs
big roster move
didnt even get to playoffs in challengers 1 2022
now the only tournament acend was better in was that one final game 3-2 in champs finals which couldve literally gone either way adn that redbull tournametn that noone cared about
gambit has been with this roster since day one and had not had a asingle bad performance, theri worst performance was getting top 6 only in challengers 1, were u can clearly see that the war and the whole new schedule made it very hard for them to keep up their game
also saying that acend won morte times against Gambit is like saying that LG has been overall better than SEN because they won more times than SEN in direct matches
We are talking about all time lol, SEN won masters 1&2, got to masters 3 and champipns while LG hasnt made a single LAN event.
Noone is talking about current form, or do you think acend is number 1 atm
are you dumb? when SEN was winning all masters 2 and challengers they were beating LG ?????
doesn't change the fact that rn LG are better than SEN bcz they have more wins over them
the same with acend they were better than gambit bcz they won most of their matches, the only match gambit won was seeding to berlin
listen ACE>GAMBIT doesn't mean ACE>ALL
ACE's playstyle worked well against GAMBIT that's all, maybe bcz ACE scrims against them all the time gives them advantage over international teams so they know how to play against them but that doesn't change the fact that during 2021 ACEND was better than GAMBIT
we are arguing about the best team overall in EMEA, Gambit couldve lost 100 times to acend doesnt change the fact that gambit overall has been way more consistent and has better tournament results
u really cant say acend was better when literally the only tournament threy placed above Gambit was champions
challengers 2:
Gambit: 3rd
Acend: didnt even qualify for the top 8
challengers 3:
gambit 1st
acend 3rd
masters 3
gambit 1st
acend top 8
chmapions
gambit 2nd
acend 1st
(by one map btw)
challengers 1
gambit top 6 (not making top 3 because of 0.02 seconds even after all the circumstances)
acend top 10, getting grouped as 5th
now stop acting as if champions was way harder than masters 3 to win, sure acend has the bigger achievments because of the Champion trophy wbich just is the biggest thing to get but that doesnt make them the better team
i like how u mention circumstances when it's gambit and ignore when it's acend nice bias
also acend made roster changes gambit didn't
are u really mentioning 0.02 like it was some bug or something bro they lost that's the end of it
CHAMPIONS>ALL
ACE>GAMBIT through 2021
so skill wise they are also better than gambit
roster changes speak against acend tho, since we are speaking about teams not orgs
and yes I mention 0.02 seconds because it shows how close gambit was to making the cut into top 3, while acend was miles away from even getting close to top 3
yes acend was miles away having 1 player's family in ukrain in the middle of bombing and 1 player with mental health issues
but nah we can't mention their circumstances only the 0.02 second matters yep
what am I reading?
acend didnt make challengers 2 and made only top 8 in masters 3, how where they better than gambit in 2021?
I really think you dont understand the difference between the best team and the team with the biggest achievements.
Easy example: S1mple best player all time csgo
astralis players: biggest achievements of all players in csgo
there is a difference
bro i already explained it acend is better than gambit but gambit is more consistent
doesn't change the fact that acend beats gambit every time
i believe this is about achievements and accolades, not skill
but yes i agree gambit > acend for achievements (though its close)
I mean even for achievements wise I think the Champions trophy beats everything else so I would put acend over it but the OP said top 10 all time
Even as a fnatic fan you have to put liquid above them liquid won the redbull event and masters 3 even made it further at champions and was only one spot behind liquid the previous masters
Edit: my ranking is 1. 3. 4..., but it changes it to 1. 2.
1- Acend
2- Gambit
3- Team Liquid
4- Fnatic
5- G2
6- FunPlus Phoenix
7- Guild
8- BBL / Navi
9- Oxygen
10- Super Massive Blaze
lmao fpx > g2? G2 6-3 FPX, G2 won more tournaments and G2 has more international appearances
This is based on performance over the entire lifespan of Valorant, not only the last 6 months like half the lists here