dude I have no idea either, I just wanted to say that lmao. Here, have an upvote

your chachi

bruhhhh, this is how I know you're not built for this discussion. uneconomical doesn't automatically making a loss. It means its wasteful.

And if you don't think flying out a shit load of players around the world to play 1 match in a relatively inconsequential tournament is wasteful, then I can't help you.

You're allowed to like the format, but don't try and defend it with logic when you have none.

There's something wrong with your brain.

I'm talking about sustainability from a point of having over 150 players fly in from all over the world, stay for a week, incur costs, to play one match and then bounce.

That's just stupid and uneconomical. You wouldn't understand this though, cus you're a retard with bad grades and no bitches.

2 groups of 16.

Swiss stage BO1. 2x top 8s

THEN Seed into 16 team single elim bracket.

This way teams actually get to play more. Fans get to see more matchups that don't overshadow champs matches cus they aren't all bo3s with riots ridiculous over production which they can save for masters and champs

Hottake

Teams are gonna troll this event because of the dog ass format

Yeah you've never watched a good tournament before if you're saying this.

Hella ways to not overshadow champions and fit within time constraints.

If you think a format where half the teams get to watch the other half play and take notes for a week is good....

If you think flying to Brazil, quarantini6for a week to play one bo1 is a good example of sustainability in eSports....
Thumbs up to you sir

Factzzz

Fnatic about to become the most clowned on and hated org in Val after they lose this 2-1. Such a shame

DRX >

KCorp lesssgooo

Ardiis inside man, let's go ;-)

NRG are all great players. But they lose a TON of matches last year if they didn't have yaymber.

Bro, they act like this format is poison. Honestly. What a way to kill the most hype tournament in history

What the fuck is this format. Stop reinventing the wheel.

3 weeks is enough time to do 2x swiss stage of BO1s then Seed into a normal bracket.

FUCK XD

Good point in your last sentence. Once promotion takes place, there will be a roster shuffle, and that's when the promoted teams / orgs will try and bolster their teams with better players. Most of which will presumably be better players already in tier 1.

We didn't really see that happen last year, but obviously, different format + no stipend from Riot for partnership.

We'll see!

Still, it's looking pretty soft. No change from last year, as in these teams don't appear to be competitive vs the franchised teams.

EMEA tier 2 couldnt compete post promotion as we saw with the splits last year, the teams that got promoted to vct got absolutely washed. This looks to be a repeat for whoever eventually gets promoted. Maybe Acend are the exception.

Not saying they're bad teams, but there looks to be a clear tier break.

Anynone got a clip?

How is this even a comparison lol.
Guard have won NA challengers before and made it to masters.

Focus haven't won a damn thing outside of VRL

Same as people thought going into champs haha.

Brain-dead take.

EMEA tier 2 is looking pretty soft. But hopefully the talent actually develops rather than spinning their wheels and shuffling rosters aimlessly. Otherwise the scene will die for sure.

ScreaM
Yay
Mako
Shao
FNS

Where is EG

Lol

APAC ZERO MASTERS / CHAMPIONS WINS LOL

Gl!

Karmine Corp cus it's my flair :D..... Any takers?

W

Lmao. UL bro

Whoa, easy there. This is fnatic remember.

Anything other than top 2 at LOCK//IN would be a failure for a team this stacked.

Nerfs and Buffs are never permanent in valorant. So even though you make alot of sense, it won't apply forever. Not even close.

Fair points my friend.

Not sure if you know it, but the term for people with beliefs like yours are "Agnostic". Not the same as atheist, but not religious.

Gl to them!

Good roster, but in typical G2 fashion (GOZEN the exception)

They ain't winning shit.

by that logic, Curry is Tier 1 in NA.

What you said it is true, but it has nothing to do with my point. Not a guarantee that they would have performed much better, because it's still a new team. On paper, I'd like to believe they would, but zerooo proof.

Let's not forget old liquid beat M3C in LCQ VERY convincingly. Don't know why people are acting like nAts and Redgar are cheatcodes.

Barely. That affected liquid.

It didn't affect:
Heretics
Vitality
BBL
FUT

All franchised teams and didn't look great

Would we have even made it out of groups if APAC teams were invited 💀

Fnatic = chokers
Navi = still good
Bbl = mid
Fut = tier 2
Koi = unproven
KC = unproven

So what you're basically saying is the truth is, our region fell off a fucking cliff haha

Panderant is a tactical fps game where the.... I can't even be arsed lol

Agent sexualities. Who fucking asked

RITO L

Pretty funny. But be prepared for a whole load of
"Liquid would win if we had nats n redgar" cope

Nevermind the fact that heretics and vitality are looking midaf.

We got some work to do boys

In the mud

Bro, first time liquid lost to KRU.....

Standins, I get it.... But liquid losing to KRU?

Keznitless and mazinoless KRU?

Damn

Stop coping, you're making our region look desperate lol.

Nats and regards didnt play a single lan in 2022, and you think they're just guaranteed to be gods. Chill

Pretty much on point take.

There's literally no proof that liquid would have won more games if they had the full roster. Of course the full roster is better, and Enzo and meddo are certified MID.

But that doesn't mean liquid would have been better.

EMEA is coping at the moment because we looked shit this event.

No conclusions can be made about liquid as NO ONE HAS SEEN THST ROSTER PLAY. HURTS BUT IT'S TRUE

damn EMEA, we sucked this event

This is the xeppa c9 needed last year