Damn

this is hilarious im not gonna lie. all of u vlr dorks are getting defensive but poppin is pretty spot on. if you have 9k+ posts on this forum you better be WORKING in the esports scene seeking some sort of exterior insight, because you seriously cannot be LIVING on this website for pure enjoyment. theres SO MANY better ways to enjoy life truly. walking brainrotted npcs.

They will have won an international going 8-0 the entire season. 4 in kickoff and 4 in playoffs.

If a team from champs last year was in their position it could’ve been a possible mere 7 games to win it all (champs qualifiers from last year advanced to round 2 of kickoff).

Winning momentum really takes you far in this game.

Are you here to actually debate or did you just want to flex that you were immortal? Lol.

Anyways I’m glad you’re not running into the same problems I am because it seems pretty universal for me and a lot of other people.

I ended last act top 5k and am also a collegiate coach.

Chat am I dogshit

I want your lobbies bro

Good take. I’d say if players weren’t so selfish when it came to selecting an agent then the nerf would be great, but after realizing how stubborn this community is people are still gonna lock clove til the end of time even after the 50th nerf. Unfortunate. Reyna v2 but worse bc smoke are necessary.

Respect. Honestly I’ve always been on the buff senti side of the debate, but regardless a change needs to happen on one side or the other. Personally i think neon being rewarded by playing against no senti comps is valid but Ik some ppl really want her gone I can’t say I disagree

I see PRX in grand final, but even that level of hype isn’t enough to drown out the noise and address the multiple elephants in the room.

The actual game hasn’t been handled well at all this entire year. Ranked is terrible, agent changes feel unplanned, the new UI in every aspect is completely worse. MMR balance changes were lazy and did more harm than good. Tier 2 is still dead and mismanaged (why not let WU play?). VCT nowadays just feels like an intentional distraction.

I notice this happen every few events. It’s like Val wants us so locked in on VCT to have us completely forget that a majority of the current fan base is unhappy with the current state of the game. Happened last year in Tejo meta. Prominent in other snowballing, overpowering and under thought metas.

All this while ranked is literally still Reyna jett clove aim practice run it down. The “inspiration” to even touch the game when watching VCT burns out so fast because it’s just not the same. The gap is growing between serious competitive mindsets and just straight up brain rot gameplay.

There’s no direction. You rather grind ranked with the aim pill mentality til you run out of Adderall or burnout. Or you’re like me and just scrim and 10man your way through the pain.

The unity in which this game once felt is fading by the minute. Stop being selfish and make changes your community wants as a whole. Not ur micro niche communities that you believe have a greater impact then the general public as a whole.

Clove Nerf Good (We as a community need to move on)
Don't Kill Neon (She deserves to still have a high skill cap)
Buff Sentis (Add variety back to the game)

lets go bro your impact is huge for our team

Predictions??? Surely we won’t see corrode from G2 again…

Cryo LMFAOOOO

Tbh I thought most of us were chronically online immortal players but I just read a thread of someone openly admitting they’re gold and just yap on here 😭. I don’t even understand how you can process VCT at a comprehensive level being that low. I know game sense doesn’t translate to rank, but that lowkey shocked me.

Just realized I’m a diehard NBA fan who can’t shoot for shit so I guess I’m a chud too

If any of the top seeds go undefeated and end up winning, they will have done it only four kickoff matches and four playoff matches. This bracket style heavily emphasizes staying at the top

(Could’ve potentially been 7 games if there was a #1 seed that skipped a round in kickoff)

No. He’s new to the VCT scene after playing collegiate valorant for Winthrop last year. Its came with adjustment and adaptation with learning nee styles of play within a new system all while he’s overseas. Hes a very good building block on a young developing team, but no in the current state I believe his contributions to the team heavily outweigh any sort of consideration for a replacement.

2024 gen g for me, but after hearing about 2025 gen g I wish more ppl would call them out for their choke. I haven’t given it much thought until this post but that team actually went from contending a new prime to losing it all in a snap.

goldenboy calling Marty supreme mediocre after someone making a table tennis joke is so based. That movie wasn’t bad by any means but very exaggerated by fake hype

All my friends love the movie btw

lowkey true esp cuz they didnt win anything. mibr aspas has a an actual chance at bouncing back for a chip this year much like bron in his 2nd year in LA

yes

give me your comparisons

G2 - BABYBAY / valyn
ENVY - Eggster / poppin
LOUD - lukxo
LEV - Sato
C9 - 0XY
MIBR - Verno
NRG - mada / Ethan
FURIA - koalanoob
100T - Timotino / vora
EG - okeanos
SEN - johnqt
KRU - 😂

i dont typically like to spread hate in the pro scene but I personally think this pickup by SEN was a very poor decision. cubert did not prove themselves by any means last year especially with all the roster changes...

edit: compared to an actual established t2 igl like vora who had a full szn w a team and developed over time with timo who was destined to be a star, vora and reduxx are like the watered down knock offs implanted from cubert...

edit 2: they started winning rounds when john was calling......

can we give my boy w00t some love

No. I can confirm it was because he was duo’d w kills

my friend told me he got banned for 2 weeks what happened

Maybe not “broken”, but I believe she will be overpowering in the meta on most maps right now similar to how omen took over most of ‘24 & ‘25 seasons.

Balanced but with key traits that are irreplaceable with the current shape of the meta.

Her ability to lurk literally anywhere on any map while consistently being able to provide utility is becoming more and more necessary with how aggressive compositions are nowadays.

Her passive of being in astral form heavily compliments lurk styles that are related to these new comps abusing chamber, waylay, and yoru.

duelist, igl, & smokes.

wait why do they get hate?

are they just gonna move up their ascended roster into main? two BBLs in the league? are they the first org to have a team ascend while already having a t1 team?

No hate, and this is just a general opinion I’ve had on him even before this match. (Ever since he got interviewed about the future cypher changes)

His cypher is just as much of a one trick as Eggster on Yoru IMO. Have yet to see a crazy inspire game where he’s on a different agent.

I think cypher has that X factor of self sufficiency that a lot of people seem to overlook due to his recent nerfs.

Edit: didn’t even get to watch the match so I’ll never know for sure. Like I said I’ve had this opinion for a while

when will they realize they are the most entertaining team we've had in a while. no reason they aren't on the stream.

so like whats the roster

you guys have some insane players on the come up and im very excited for yall to take over EMEA next year <3

https://www.vlr.gg/post/5695005/i-will-be-on-vlr-soon
staying anonymous, but i WILL be farming the next FunHavers >:D

im locking in this year i swear

Turkey has seriously produced some crazy top talent in the past few years.

REALLY needed to happen, but with how this team came up, I was doubtful that they'd actually pull the plug. best of luck to Miniboo. w00t on duelist?

okay though forreal if we're nerfing rechargeable scan util and also adding veto (removes throwable util) how is keeping viper this strong anything but a bad idea? yeah veto can TECHNICALLY stop her util, but any half decent player can avoid by setting up pre round and playing basic timings.

can relate. im only in here during my lectures. something about the forum feels so soulless at times.

What are some pointers you'd give to a HC that isn't in T1 on long term goals within the scene? (Collegiate coach + uni student rn). This will be my 2nd year coaching our university's team, but I'd love a few pointers. We are T2 collegiate. (One game off qualifying CVAL last year rip)

It's kinda tuff you can't lie

I like BBL because I like BBLs

ITS HAPPENING!

Although I always thought this would how NA playoffs would conclude before champs, it’s great to see that there are some real stakes still on the line.

With SEN & G2 basically being qualified since the Stone Age, and MIBR’s bitter-sweet qualification, it’s refreshing to know that importance still stands within the rest of Stage 2 playoffs in NA.

I don’t know who I want to win, I like NRG’s players more, but C9 as a org has always looked like an international threat.

Let’s go BBL! 2-0

I really like BBL’s Ascent comp, PRX’s Sunset comp, & C9’s Haven comp

BBL on Ascent:
Jett
Kayo
Tejo
Fade
Omen

PRX on Sunset:
Raze
Omen
Sova
Viper
Sage

C9 on Haven:
Jett
Omen
Skye
Viper
Killjoy

I like NRG more, but I really want C9 to make an international. I think they’re the type of team that would thrive against worldwide talent. They already have a lack of recognition in Americas (SEN owns them and they can never upset). I think that draws less emphasis away from them as a team, meaning other orgs aren’t looking at them as potential threat for Paris.

All these variables leave them as a dark horse if they make champs.

The question is, can they even make it that far…

All or nothing match for champs, who wins?

We all know SEN & G2 will be making it. Furthermore, it’s pretty safe to say that of the remaining teams, the following are the biggest candidates for making it to Paris: C9, NRG, 100T, LEV, and KRU.

Honestly, C9 & NRG are good enough to be placed in a tier above the rest of the teams listed.

With all this being said, upsets are bound to happen, and I truly believe that both of these teams cannot coexist in Paris. (Just a hunch and we know how upsets go)

Under this strange hypothetical I’ve presented, it’s given us the opportunity to theorize and craft ideas around what their match could look like.

Do or die, Paris on the line, BO3, who wins?

C9 or NRG?

Very true. We love RobbieBurgerking.

True! He has a lot of flex/fill/hype impact that a lot of these teams are missing! RobbieBurgerking!

Very true, if anything, this could be a discussion to think of for the near future, and maybe not this exact moment in time. With current projections, none of these roster changes seem to affect winning against their best competition (SEN & G2). But I suspect a breakthrough. A lot of these new players are hungry, and a lot of them look like they could seriously make a run if the cards are in their favor. Personally, I think individual players (take Sato & spikes for example) are players who surpass their team entirely, and in the right situation and team could be champs-ready players right now. I know it’s a reach, but I think my point with this all is that new talent is taking over very quickly.

Excited to see what two other teams qualify for champs. I’d like to say C9, but 100T will be more than ready to put up a great fight in playoffs. My sleeper pick is LEV. People tend to forget they got 3rd at champs last year, and their core is looking very motivated with their new talent aiding them. Wish all VCT Americas teams the best!

Big fan of VCT, with Americas being my primary. As we’ve seen a lot during this entire year, just about EVERY team has undergone a mid-season roster change.

To be more specific, off the top of my head, all but three teams have made permanent roster changes throughout this year. If you count babybay subbing in for leaf, that makes SEN & EG the only two teams to not have undergone a roster change before the 2025 season. (I guess you could count C9 too)

With that being said, mid-level Americas teams have seen to find their biggest strides around the time of their new guys joining.

Some notable examples of teams with new players:

Verno - MIBR
Sato - LEV
skuba - NRG
Kess - 100T
Virtyy- LOUD
Dantedeu5 - KRU
spikeziN - 2G

feel free to name any I missed

So now, I have a question up for debate. Are these new players carrying their team to new heights? Or is the refreshing feeling of having a new teammate enough to unite and bring teams to higher levels?

Furthermore, how much does attitude, effort, and commitment play a role into previous players getting dropped and new ones getting signed?

I think with VCT franchising coming close to its 3rd year in the making, we’re starting to see the effects of the feeder systems (T2, Collegiate, ETC) and its impact on the current state of the game.

While, for the most part, VALORANT is dominated by more established, middle-aged * for gamers (20-24), take SEN, FNC, G2, PRX.

But a new era is upon us. I don’t know if these new kids are just becoming cracked out of their minds. Or maybe it’s the effects of franchising. With many of these young kids, they are constantly grinding to make their way to the top, creating new levels of ambition and motivation that many pros in the current scene never had to go through or experience.

Sorry for the yap, please leave your thoughts below.