They havent won more than once, they've won exactly one tournament which is Masters 1. The only serious competition they faced was LOUD in M1, and OpTic luckily won. They are consistent, consistent runner-ups. And no need for the insults, I guarantee you'd have a different attitude if we were in person.

Yea one of the best teams doesn't equal to the best. All of their goals should be to be the best, which they failed at twice. They just don't got that dog in them, and its obvious with how hard they throw most games.s

Succeeded on being runner-ups, I agree.

LOUD best in the world and best RN. I'm an optic fan and I realized the copium wasn't good, theres no excuses anymore. Why am I gonna break my back to cheer for losers. Hope they show me different next year, but doubt it. 2022 and forward is going to be the LOUD era.

They won M1 dingus. They had a lucky run, the only good team they faced was LOUD, who just had an off-day. Thats been the script for this whole year, They've had it easy until they play actual good teams, like M1 Loud which they got lucky and won, M2 they got ripped by PRX, then ripped by FPX. M3 they got ripped by LOUD twice, hell they dropped a map against BOOM lmao.

Dua Lipa is my cousin, so yes I do.

You forgot:

2nd at M3

2nd at both NA LCQ

Can we call them Team Silver Medalists? These guys are perennial 2nd place

You think the Optic players are satisfied being second place? I'm just holding them to the same expectations I'd hold myself accountable to, anything but winning is an L

Low quality Brazilian user, you don't cheer for LOUD?

Yes LOUD is better, 100% they deserved the win. Consistent doesnt mean good, Sentinels has been Consistently shit since winning. Why should I congratulate Optic for being Consistent runner ups? I should want the team I cheer for to win everything, am I wrong for that? I'm not gonna sit here and be happy that OpTic keeps falling short on all but one tournament run.

Sorry for wanting the team I cheer for to win and not constantly fall short.

Well OpTic can be called "Team Silver Medalists" then.

A team of washed up CS rejects. Tenz can't adapt, Shazam sucked at CSGO and sucks at Valorant even when they were winning, any team that picks shazam is an idiot, they had a fluke run and won the first tournament when no one knew how to play.

Not a bait, and this is VLR, the average IQ here is lower than HLTV so I don't expect most people to understand why being 2nd/3rd place is not good, no one cares about bronze medal, only gold. No one else has been able to achieve the same results because everyone else rose like a meteor and crashed, Optic has found a way to consistently fall short each time, so I guess I should give props to them for being perennial runner ups?

Yes, LOUD is the best team and no other team compares, as Champs proved. I expect LOUD to keep up form in 2022 aswell, seeing as they're the only team who overcame all to win.

Had they won this tournament, it would not have been a fluke, as in this hypothetical they've proven that they can be constant winners. 2nd/3rd place is not winning, the definition of winning according to Merriam Webster is:

Definition of winning (Entry 1 of 2)
1: the act of one that wins : VICTORY

The definition of victory
1: the overcoming of an enemy or antagonist
2: achievement of mastery or success in a struggle or endeavor against odds or difficulties

They did not overcome the enemy, sure they won some matches but if a team goes to the NBA finals and loses you won't call them winners. Look at 2016 golden state warriors, best record of all time going 73-9, were up 3-1 in the finals and ended up losing to the Cavaliers. Who is the winner, the warriors or the cavs? Same concept here, Optic are not winners.

Whats boring about wanting the team you root for to win? Its the same in real sports, why would I waste time cheering for my team to lose. As a fan you want to see your team win, and I don't believe in participation trophies for teams who fail to win.

Yes, failing to win is bad. No one will remember OPTIC for 2022, LOUD will be the team of 2022. I have nothing but respect for LOUD, they are the best team in valorant. They came in 2022 with no exceptions and exceeded them, compared to Optic who have all the expectations with none of the results except one lucky tourney.

I said "But for a team thats being crowned "best team of valorant" they've won once, and they frankly got lucky the entire way(optic)." I was talking about Optic being lucky they got into the finals, not LOUD. LOUD is the best team in the world, not optic who are consistently runner ups except one fluke run. I'm saying that optic might be "accomplished" , but are not the best. No one remembers the runners up in superbowls, NBA finals, World series, World cup ETC. They remember the winners.

won once on a fluke. Except loud who did they play that was good? DRX was still shit back then, perennial 5-6th. No one cares about 2nd and 3rd place, LOUD is the team to beat and Optic frankly is just a overrated team. How did they get to finals? They played TL who have no IGL, XSET who they faced a million times, lost to LOUD(best team in the world) , DRX who got a lucky run to 3rd instead of 5-6th and then in the championship they lose again to loud, 3-1 which is embarrassing. for being the "most accomplished" team in valorant history, they seem to fall short every time it matters except the fluke of M1. M3 vs gambit they lost 3-0, m1 they got lucky, m2 they lost 2-1 to PRX, 3-1 to FPX, and now once again lost 3-1 to LOUD, and look at the scores of each of those games, against PRX they lost 13-3 won 13-9 lost 13-5, against FPX lost 13-6 lost 13-8 won 13-6 and lost 13-7, they got lucky that they played FPX on their best map otherwise it would've been a clean 3-0. These guys just give up on the last map and just get stomped on, doesn't matter if scores are close, a sweep or gentlemans sweep is still a sweep. No one remembers 2nd place.

Loud is a good team , thats for sure. But for a team thats being crowned "best team of valorant" they've won once, and they frankly got lucky the entire way(optic). LOUD is a fantastic team, best in the world . Not trying to discredit loud but trying to discredit optic, Yay is good and even then this dude is just consistent, he's no s1mple/zywoo where they can just win games for them. Hes a Paul George player, meanwhile loud is full of 5 Michael Jordans

Wasn't able to watch yesterdays match, but its frankly sad. Constantly falling short every tourney, got lucky earlier this year and didn't face any really good teams(only good team they faced was LOUD, and they were still new). M2 they got smoked by double duelist PRX, absolutely outmatched and then in the lowers finally got a map off an EU team. Champs they faced the same teams they've faced before except BOOM, and still dropped a map to them. These guys constantly get 2nd-3rd place and its embarrassing that a team with so much talent falls short , they're like TSM in 2014-2015(Astralis). They need therapists or psychologists or something, these guys have such a mental block in their heads that they just cannot win unless they get an easy way(M1)

Yay best awp
victor best duelist
marved best smoke
fns best IGL
crashies best initiator

13-8 DRX send optic home. -victor +saya please

Not cursing, I have no faith in Optic. I sincerely hope DRX wins so they can drop Victor.

DRX will win this. Optic cannot win these maps, most overrated team of all time. Get Yay some help.

yet the last 2 upper bracket winners didn't end up winning anything, how you can get all those advantages and still lose is beyond me.

I just hope no matter what both these teams end up in grand finals. Out of 4 teams remaining except optic I'd rather have LOUD win than anyone else.

-dephh + zander and they win next masters

enough karaboga, albanians created this earth and turks 🇦🇱💪

elhamdulillah

I do not know, I just like trolling turkroaches.

even turks realize how 2faced he is, once he became popular he lost all his integrity. Dude went from being the funniest streamer to another sellout

Dephh is calling like hes Zeus from 2014, lost too many rounds waiting until 20 seconds with bomb stuck in spawn only to lose rounds or not be able to trade . Idiots, that last round is unlosable

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/ecf89233

The only right one, NA and EU supremacy.

moment they face actual t3 talent they get ripped

no shot c9w gives them any trouble. Gen.G will probably go out r08