he's farming easy teams, there's a reason his stats were nowhere near this good at champs

haven't seen a single soul using it

you know who were doing great on badly coordinated middling teams for most of their careers? Oxy, Asuna, Mada, Som, Keznit, Tex, Kingg, Scream, Verno, Koalanoob, Vic, Rossy, N4rrate, (it pains me to put them here but) Mako, Buzz, Heat
even boaster wasn't going negative every game when fnatic got their trophies. there's a difference between an igl being a bad fragger (which still wouldn't justify ALWAYS being negative) and a guy who helps with mid rounding that is permanently a walking ult orb and clutches one round every other game

EDG, Loud, FPX
arguably EG (the only one who wasn't an amazing aimer was c0m but even he did good in champs), hell you could even make an argument for gambit and gen.g (lakia was shooting well in shanghai)

rather than igling being easier if you're on initiator, I think the bigger thing is that having a good player on sentinel that can anchor and lurk is really impactful. igling makes it harder to focus and igls are generally on the lower end mechanically which makes them worse in those aspects

yeah man, how will I ever get those 20 seconds of my life back😔you got me there

I have nothing against sacy I think he's a cool guy, my issue is with people overrating him because they like him. he was bad last year and anyone who thinks otherwise is just being delusional

sun vs firefly

the "look at sentinels now" argument is so retarded, yeah let's ignore the sentinels last year who lost to EG, 100T and loud 😹no "out of server impact" justifies going negative in most of the games, at that point just become a coach

nah, there's a few people who agreed
it's mostly the americans awake right now which is why it seems so disagreeable

"bro got so mad at his own thread he made another" 🤓

no one is mad other than the fanboys trying to rationalize their love of the player with his garbage gameplay

acting like sentinels with sacy wasn't dogshit for half of last year 😭

putting sacy's name next to leo is an insult to leo honestly, let's stop disrespecting players 😔

go look for them, I guarantee there's 3 max with these 2 included (I faintly recall making a thread about players who the community says "have good util", it wasn't about sacy in particular)

does this dic also have "good util" 🤤

even if it's a down grade it's too early to tell, besides are we forgetting how the sentinels with sacy didn't even make regional playoffs in split 1 and bombed out in split 2?

the "but but util" is just the narrative they have for players they like that are garbage in the server, you barely see anyone justifying crashies' performance and going "but he has good util and impact out of the server"

??? this is like the second ever sacy thread I've made iirc with the other one being a few hours ago

😭😭😭 this is some crazy cope, not like they were having him enter or something

he didn't go positive a single game during sen's madrid run except for the grand finals where he was +1 😭

imagine I'm sacy? I can't imagine going negative every game but thanks

you say that like I'm trying to diminish his legacy out of personal hatred or something 😭I just think he's overrated

the majority of vlr users do not agree at least from what I've seen, and most public figures say this shit about every player. ask them about c0m/crashies for example and you'd see them singing the same tune

yeah I'm not sure losing 10 aim duels then clutching 1 round is a particularly impressive feat. you deny the "unarguably", sure then. who COULD've been worse than him? zellsis? you know it's bad when you're comparing him to zellsis

if c0m were to win champs last year he'd the first 2 time champs winner, do you think he should be in a conversation for goat initiator? no, because he's a mediocre player on a good team. his english is also fluent enough to comm, why do you bring up "different language" as if it's an english competition? less just started learning english and he's doing just fine on vitality, valorant doesn't need amazing english to comm and sacy's english is good enough for irl conversations too.

I didn't make this in response to you in particular it's just a notion I see a lot on this site
also leo's peak is significantly higher than sacy's let's be real. he also assists with midrounding just like sacy does

because this is an all time ranking so it has to take into account everything a player has done, riens for example had a great first year in tier 1 so if you're simply taking the average then he's "great" but then if you look at performances independently, sacy having a good year + a mid year would place him higher.

this has to be studied, I see people saying he's the initiator goat and even the goat of the game 😭😭😭

this guy peaked in champs 2022 and has only been mediocre since. people bring up his multiple trophies as if he wasn't the worst player on his team in the second one (and not even the best player in the first one). s0cy has quite literally only been a top player in champs 2022, only in valorant will you see fans acting like being a mediocre player on a winning team is a grand achievement

maybe if he won 5 trophies while being garbage individually I'd start thinking he's the goat, but 2 trophies? 😹

you're so delusional, leo was putting up better stats on guild with half the team being dogshit than sacy was on sentinels. you're also acting like sacy's 2022 champs win wasn't with a team on the same level of players as fnatic, he was then unarguably sentinel's worst player throughout the year

leo at his worst is sacy at his best

what? sacy peaked at champs 2022 and even then he wasn't loud's best player, leo was fnatic's best player for the majority of 2023 (and the time he played in 2024) and he's far better than sacy mechanically. leo was also good on guild which is the other notable team he was on. sacy was unarguably sen's worst player. saying he's more decorated doesn't contribute anything since it's a team game

free1ing who is he free1ing

sen edg loud + aspas in her bio (and prx in her tweets), you cannot make this up

yo what did I do 🗿

difference is that you don't see us looking for players to blame after a few losses

typical s0n fans looking for someone to single out the moment they lose😹you don't see any other fanbase do this

don't single out bang, they're all dogshit

kamo and keiko were playing well, kamyk and pati were the ones sleeping and often throwing

s0ntinels aren't making any other internationals this year, they should disband and give their slot to a more deserving team

I'm convinced they spend most of their scrims getting the smoke spam timing down, we need a comparison of their smoke spam kills compared to other teams

best day of my life

worse than 9/11

alfajer would be garbage on flex

derke was better than half the players you have in 2022

I know you're baiting but anyway, last 2 maps against gen.g heretics was simply far worse on them than gen.g. abyss that was their first map of the season, what did the other team "figure" out? I'll agree with the maps against lulquid tho

try comparing gold2's round differential on map losses to other top tier teams

now let's look at the teammates, or do you think vitality was equal to EDG?

you're delusional if you think heretics are less adaptable than G2, G2 get stomped in half the maps they lose

I don't know, I was just talking about those countries in general. it naturally varies, he could've been a completely merit based pick up

yeah now compare their teammates 😹retarded argument + trexx was the highest rated champs player

trexx is so clear of smoggy, I don't know why smoggy is so overrated

all the others are arguable except this one

people really forgot this guy is a choker? he's been like this for years, only difference is that he didn't completely disappear near the end regionally this time, give him another decade and maybe he'll show up in internationals

every place has nepotism, if anything the asian countries in that region (south east asia + korea, japan and china) are infamous for their nepotism in the workplace generally