someone bring the STATS pls

DRX will come back... or at least they will do what they did to optic in champions. if they can do that i will be so proud of them :)

crowd buff is unfair LOUD got lucky crowd buff is unfair LOUD got lucky crowd buff is unlucky LOUD is unfair crowd buff is lucky LOUD got unfair ;-;

its the crowd its the crowd COPIUM :(

LOUD is better than nrg because nrg have very strong mental. also i have never heard a crowd as loud as the brazil crowd cheering for south american teams.

they are projecting obviously... where else will they let out their rage?

this is a tough one there's too many to choose from. right now i would say glitchpop but on another day i might say ruination or protocol.

whoa whoa whoa why are we gatekeeping teams from different countries now? i think thats the root of this problem, no? root for whoever you want, even if they aren't from the same region. there's nothing wrong with even a european supporting LOUD or someone from SEA supporting one of the EMEA teams if that's what they want.

crowd buff took down nrg, drx will also fall before the terrifying crowd. BUT i still believe!

they werent overhyped and they weren't predicted to win for a long time...

Leo is the best emea initiator and he's also got a lot more potential than shao. He can also play sova, fade and breach really well and I would not be surprised if he was good on kayo too.

Gold 1 :( I probably have the aim of a silver though :(

Huge upset will be when both talon and geng beat drx... I am hoping it doesn't happen but if its for the sake of the Pacific league, I will allow it

still cant win anything now

this sounds like the d3ffo argument all over again... when a team gets too good at setting up their star player to gain space, they all start to call said player washed and horrible.

thats why they lost to team that lost to navi, right?? because they are better than LOUD and DRX??

i cant seem to figure out how to upload a screenshot so here are my rankings (in order within the tiers from best to worst too)
S: FNC, LOUD, DRX, NAVI, NRG (top 4 are interchangeable, very very close)
A: FURIA, LEV, 100T, SEN, TLN, C9, TL (yep thats right furia are best in A tier for me)
B: VIT, TS, KOI, GENG, EG, KRU (these teams aren't bad but some work or changes could push them into A tier.)
C: BBL, PRX, GIA, KC, EDG, ZETA, FUT (some of these teams probably should be higher up, but it was tough to decide)
D: FPX, T1, RRQ, MIBR
F: TH, GE, DFM

yay is actually so good at baiting though, like do you remember the time he had us all fooled that hes switching to valorant mobile???

no no, let him cook.

no they are going to play 5 man op, never seen before.

THAT isn't the problem. the issue is that yay doesnt play neon, raze or phoenix, and his sage looks mediocre at best and he doesn't really shine in the roles he plays. but i dont even think that it was the reason why he got benched, i think it was because of mindsets. yay wanted to win, c9 just wanted to have fun. they might as well become a streamer team tbh.

WAIT KOI YAY?? YOU MIGHT BE ON TO SOMETHING

yep because if furia wins fnatic is going to drop to A, furia to S and sentinels to D and maybe T1 to C+ lol.

bro you posted the wrong link dummy.

sacred huh?

these lev fans better be thanking me for my awesome jinx

koi would be my choice honestly

yep lev better losing to vitality, sure.

this feels like copium, navi is really strong.

SO MUCH COPIUM. Leo is a top 3 sova itw, if not number 1, and he has incredible mechanics. leo is at least equal to mwzera, if not better.

yikers, im pretty sure both talon and TS would beat any other EMEA team apart from FNC and navi. we should be saying shitMEA for only having 4(soon to be 2) EMEA teams left out of 10.

Tell me you are without telling me you are.

Make sacy igl, drop dephh and pick up a head hitting flex player. Let zekken play duelist. Double duelist comp. They win.

Hmm i guess so, he's more flexible I suppose.

DRX is the strongest team in terms of prep and they have 10 days to prep against loud. They have a really good chance of winning it.

Except fns can make the most out of this "fraud" and can make him the best itw.

Yeah I was going to any I'm looking forward to how 100T changes with jamezirl there but tbh Mikeshd is a really good coach already. 100T are just making all the right moves, unlike a certain NA franchising team that rhymes with "loud fine"

Mindsets are different too. But yeah I think yay needed a full time duelist role but he couldn't really play that.

I'm crying. Do something about it.

Wait, is there any chance of NRG yay as NA's last hope???

LMFAO DRX DID TO C9 WHAT GUARD DID TO 100T LOL.

Wow even qwertyy isn't staying loyal to his beloved team after this... c9 you messed up real bad

why did they drop jamezirl?? I haven't seen any improvement on the team with mce here, but maybe I'm speaking too soon. But C9 should have kept their old coach.

7/18 but I'm average so I guess it's ok. I did trol a little on some of them haha

How tf did c9 do anything in 2021 and early 2022 with a coach with this mindset?? I mean, to be fair, I guess it makes sense since those players on c9 have a "happy to be here" mindset and laughing when they lose 13-2 on the last map.

technically not true, masters 1 2021 wasn't a world championship.

KOI>vitality and you won't change my mind about it.

ah i see you're pushing the skrossi hate threads to the bottom, good work :)

I can't choose the best in the world but most of the contenders from the alpha bracket are non duelists.

you better be praying that LEV even makes it past GE and best player in the world skrossi...