ok true but if SEN actually manage to beat C9 i will never watch NA valorant ever again. THeres no way that happens.

They must be afraid of losing valo viewership in EMEA especially since vs is still really popular in EMEA.

But there is no way that happens because faze and c9 play each other tomorrow iirc

Cloud9's valorant team isn't good? What do you mean?

whats the point of C0M joining a team that has almost no chance to play any tournaments after this one? i really dont see SEN making it to LCQ, and EG looks insane right now and they have a MUCH BETTER work ethic than SEN would ever have. SEN should have picked up C0M before EG got him if they really wanted to make a change.

Yeah but I think guild will go 5 and 0 in this group. There's no way they lose to BBL and Navi.

I agree with this. XSET have been beaten by the guard before and if they can win against XSET then they will win against NRG too.

hell no, EG have a better chance to make it to playoffs than SEN. C0M to SEN would be the dumbest move of his life

isnt futbolist JEFF like a really good team in game changers? why disband, especially if you are winning

im so proud of them, even though i am not a fan of them. i hope they make it to masters 2.

I actually think it's not one of the worst out there to be honest.

im not talking about how they were last year, im talking about this year. they didnt even get top 4 last stage in playoffs. and now, they lost to guild who are not top four in emea right now. so does m3c belong in top 4? i dont think so.

If 100T, faze,EG and ghost are in tier 2, why does v1 deserve tier 1 this time? They didn't qual to the group stage.

GUILD vs FPX in stage 1 masters 1. Our first watched matches are not too far apart

Part 2 will have some good action, or at least a bit more than part 1.

yeah but how long was he in KR for? if it was less than a year then he actually could count as NA player if his time in NA csgo counts towards this 4 year thing.

i suppose you're right, guild are fairly inconsistent. i might be on copium because i really like guild and i always have, but this time it feels like they have a real shot of making it.

really? i remember guild to be a pretty decent team in EU, even after their loss in the playoffs last stage. all im saying is that M3C hasnt proven that they deserve to be that high. i would rank them 5th or 6th honestly.

1.Optic
2.C9
3.LG (very high i know )
4.XSET
5.NRG
6.TSM
7.100T
8.Faze
9.Ghost
10.EG
11.Guard
12.SEN

i get your point but it seems like curry is actually pulling his weight.

would virtus pro be allowed to enter valorant as an org? idk where they are based but arent they in the same situation as gambit?

i cant believe you are still rating M3C so high, especially over guild. it has to be time to face the facts, M3C fell off.

you put FPX over Fnatic who beat them? it might be recency bias and a honeymoon phase but i think that they are actually going to stay at the top with the derke alfajer duo.

Yeah I think derrek should stay as a sova/breach main since they are both in the meta. I would expect asuna to start flexing onto fade and stellar picking up the chamber role with will on raze on maps like fracture.

First of all you're 2 days late. Secondly, he is literally telling the truth, G2 can't beat SEA teams. He isn't begging for attention or crying, unless he is crying of laughter.

Why would you compare jp,which has one of the highest viewerships to kr which has one of the least? What you said doesn't make sense. You should have compared it to EMEA or something.

duelist: will
flex:victor
sentinel:yay
controller:marved
initiator: derrek
igl: vanity

rgx vandal and protocol 781 a phantom.

why no? his calling is really good and he can frag out too.

you cant deny that he is more often on the bottom half of the killboard than the top half. its not his fault since he isnt meant to frag, im just saying that curry is too much dead weight for leaf to carry in a 4v5 to masters.+

Who is vietnamese on C9? Dont tell me xeppa is vietnamese because i wont believe you.

You know its a bad roster change when you know that even leaf and xeppa can't carry this team anymore...

Yeah but c9 is loaded too and are almost deifintely going to be part od the franchise too. Xeta had almost no reaaon to leave

Yes after c9 get battered and beaten into the ground. Leaf and xeppa only have enough energy to varry vanity with their kills, now they have more dead weight.

How is C9 going to replace xeta that quickly?? Looks like this team is done if they can't find someone good.
Edit: they are getting curry?? This team is over I'm aorry

yes, very original, start insulting my name once you know you lost this argument. just admit you lost this one KEKW.

did i say that TSM won't make progress? no. i said that 100T will make more progress, and that is already clear from their dominant win against the guard. only time will tell if TSM have made the same amount of progress (which i doubt considering how good 100T looks right now)

Don't forget about mikes, he was quite good with envy and I'm sure he's contributing to the success of 100T

It could have happened if the guard won a map

Just because it is normal doesnt mean it's the right thing to do.

Not true. I can't wait to watch mitch and leaf diff babybay and dicey so hard. Free win for c9.

I agree with it all Except for ram. Guard >TSM, the 100T match isn't a good enough measure of how good the guard is atm.

I want to see 100T and C9 at Copenhagen, get the old garbage in NA out of here (I'm joking btw, I just love these teams more than optic and the rest of the NA teams)

Yes, they lost in double ot. That is close for me and any normal person.

But your comment assumes that if tsm makes any progress at all, they would win against 100T. What I'm saying is that 100T would make more progress than tsm so they would beat tsm because they have made more progress

Leaf is the best jett in na and no one can change my mind. His style with jett is quite unique and I like it. He can lurk and top frag while still having and impact and carry a game unlike other jetts who just dash, get kills, get traded and repeat every round.

Not a valid excuse. Emilshein plays on 150 long and he stomps on radiant lobbies.

Let us not forget that 100t was so close to 2-0ing tsm in the lower bracket finals of stage 2 challengers 1

everything? musashi is really good at the game, i think it is just disrespectful to say that he is some "random trash can"

they said 100T would make MORE progress... not that they would not make any progress.