W
you are now my favorite user
only change is that Copenhagen 2022 was most fun to watch (I am genuinely not being biased just cause FPX(EU)/NAVI won the tournament)
it actually had too much chaos, too many upsets, and too many absurd clutches
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W
you are now my favorite user
only change is that Copenhagen 2022 was most fun to watch (I am genuinely not being biased just cause FPX(EU)/NAVI won the tournament)
it actually had too much chaos, too many upsets, and too many absurd clutches
dumass
are you illiterate or what
the guy i was replying to thought that NAVI had close maps to the bad teams and not FNC
higher average placement including all events (even the 11th place they got since they had 2 subs in M1 Reykjavik 2022)
Teams worthy of respect in random order:
FNATIC, FPX/NAVI, TL, TH, FUT, GIANTS, KC - GAMBIT, ACEND, G2(EU), GUILD
LOUD, KRU, LEVIATAN, NV/OPTC/NRG, SEN, EG, 100T, G2(NA)/TGRD, C9 - XSET
VS/DRX, GENG, PRX, T1, X10/XIA/TLN, TS
EDG
TOP 28 TEAMS OF ALL TIME
Edits:
NAVI/FPX from 5 to 6. PRX from 6 to 5.
GENG from 19 to 11. 100T from 11 to 14. TH 16 to 13. FUT from 18 to 15. KRU from 14 to 16. G2(EU) from 13 to 17. LEVIATAN from 17 to 18. X10/XIA/TLN from 15 to 19.
SEN from 4 to 7. PRX from 5 to 4. FPX(EU)/NAVI from 6 to 5. GAMBIT from 7 to 6.
Moved XSET from 20 to 22. Added GUILD to 21. Added G2(NA)/TGRD to 20.
Added T1 to 23. Added EDG to 24.KRU from 16 to 14. 100T from 14 to 16.against FNC they had 2 close maps
they shit on lev ts and kru bro (it wasnt like they were struggling or anything)
https://www.vlr.gg/167363/natus-vincere-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16
https://www.vlr.gg/167370/team-secret-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-qf
https://www.vlr.gg/167374/natus-vincere-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-sf
all 2-0s
13-5, 13-10, 13-8, 13-4, 13-10, 13-2
NAVI > ASE (random ass chinese team that snuck in to the event)
NAVI > NRG (billibilli) & GIANTS & T1 (only if you watched the games, you would know)
stop making clueless assumptions
read #41
11-13 on 2 maps
4-13 loss on 1 map
they had 2 close maps
stop spreading misinformation
bro
Champs 2022: they beat XSET in the rematch? (plus 5th 6th 7th 8th were FNC XSET LEV TL), so FPX was definitely 4th there and that was deserved.
LockIn I guess good argument, (but they were still top 5 (only NRG was better than them possibly))
Tokyo: I agree they shit the bed
Champs 2023:
(they did not get exposed by LOUD and DRX : look at scorelines:
https://www.vlr.gg/247102/natus-vincere-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-winners-d 13-15, 13-9, 12-14
https://www.vlr.gg/247104/natus-vincere-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-decider-d 13-11, 11-13, 11-13
)
mb i read "years"
but why tf u only counting 2022
thas a brainded take
ur stupid
stfu
Ethan made Berlin 2021 with 100T and they got 3rd/4th and beat Gambit (the winners of the event) once with 100T having a 3-11 comeback on them
bro???
all the players and the coach won a trophy
whas ur point u biased fk
Reykjavik 2022: Couldnt attend the event cuz of war. Definitely top 1 tho, minimum top 3
Copenhagen 2022: 1st
Champs 2022: 4th
LOCK//IN: 3rd/4th
Tokyo 2023: 11th
Champs 2023: (placed 9th, but realistically were minimum top 7 (you would agree if you watched DRX vs NAVI and LOUD vs NAVI in groups))
Madrid: Didnt attend event (Realistically, top 10 team in the world with (SEN, NRG, LOUD, GENG, PRX, T1, TH, KC, FNC))
they have basically been in top 10 since start of 2022, that is pretty successful
they do have 1 brainded
just the org doesnt
2021 >
2024 >
2022 was good and extremely good during Copenhagen and Champs 2022, but Reykjavik was ass
100t aint gonna pull an EG and win champs...
TEAM HERETICS WILL
cant even keep a long win streak...
wont even win shanghai
let alone PRX vs T1
TLN vs BLD looks boring compared to a chair
what u on about
ban throwing
using vandal in viper ult
ur saying 1 of these teams beats NAVI more than 5 times out of 10? (which)
11-15: 100T, FUT, VIT, DRX, RRQ
16-20: EG, MIBR, LEV, M8, TS
21-26: C9, G2, FURIA, TL, GX, ZETA
27-33: KRU, KOI, BBL, TLN, GE, BLD, DFM
TH almost beat SEN (8-13, 13-5, 11-13)
idk what ur on about
everyone else is worse tho, doesnt matter if they didnt play good against TH
nah
i mean NAVI isnt crazy good
but it is more about like other 20 teams being dogwater than NAVI being good
????????????
loud got sweeped
the breeze was good (but it wasnt like EMEA had no good maps to watch either)
c9 lev was clownfiesta like KOI TL
ok mb
but Saadhak IGL means the team plays a similar style throughout the years
its fine brrr
EON = ENVY/OPTIC/NRG
…………………………………………………………………
INTERNATIONAL APPEARANCES:
ENVY/OPTIC/NRG wins 8-7
EON 8-7 LOUD
TROPHIES:
LOUD wins since Champions > Masters
Trophies: EON 1-1 LOUD
FINALS:
Tied
Finals: EON 3-3 LOUD
PLACEMENT/RANKING for DIFFERENT STAGES THROUGHOUT 2020-2024
ENVY/OPTIC/NRG wins 9-5 LOUD
Score: EON was better than LOUD during 9 stages and LOUD was better than EON during 5 stages.
EON (9): First Strike 2020, Stage 1 2021, Stage 2 2021, Stage 3 2021, Champions 2021, Stage 1 2022, Stage 2 2022, Stage 1 2023, Stage 2 + Champions 2024
LOUD (5): Champions 2022, Kickoff 2023, Champions 2023, Kickoff 2024, Stage 1 2024
HEAD 2 HEAD Series, Maps, Rounds:
ENVY/OPTIC/NRG win (+11 rounds)
Series: ENVY/OPTC/NRG 5:5 LOUD
Maps: ENVY/OPTC/NRG 14:14 LOUD
Rounds: ENVY/OPTC/NRG 317:306 LOUD
Pre-Franchising:
Series: OPTC 3:3 LOUD
Maps: OPTC 9:9 LOUD
Rounds: OPTC 200:197 LOUD
Post-Franchising:
Series: NRG 2:2 LOUD
Maps: NRG 5:5 LOUD
Rounds: NRG 117:109 LOUD
bro
LOUD got 0 practice after madrid
have a cope week tho ig.
if they were all together and none of em had to speak english, they do clear any team in the world.
SEN > TH > KC > LOUD >
NRG > NAVI > FNC > 100T >
FUTM8VITEG > C9LEVMIBR > TLG2FURIAGX > KOIBBLKRU
SEN > TH > KC > LOUD >
NRG > NAVI > FNC > 100T >
FUTC9M8VITEG > LEVMIBR > TLG2FURIAGX > KOIBBLKRU
Listen
You cannot call Bonecold a fraud cuz he had to igl 4 bots to a champs win
Id say he is the #1 most deserved of his trophy
Ange1 should also not be there... (he was and is still one of the most respected igls in valorant due to his early contributions when the game started)
why tf is FNS there?
Listen
You cannot call Bonecold a fraud cuz he had to igl 4 bots to a champs win
Id say he is the #1 most deserved of his trophy
bruh
LOUD literally had no practice basically after madrid
this is so sad for energy
6 clutches for C9
2 for LEV
bruhhhh
copeLEV would get 6th-7th in EMEA
TH KC NAVI FNC FUT VIT >>>>
read: (no order within each category)
LOUD only beat china man...
LOUD just got lucky with double China matches...
looking like TL and KOI brooo
ur biased
no point of arguing with ur dumass
i wish
but sadly coach EmiLLLL is ass
and the rest of the team is pretty garbo except like keiko ig (but he overrated too cuz he just farms KOI bots (except sheydos))
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