Saw some ppl say TSM should pick up sinatraa. I say wait until he is proven innocent or guilty. If guilty, instead of fining him or sending him to jail, force him to go to the utter chaos that is TSM rn. Guarantee that will make him suffer more than any jail sentence ever could.

I mean we'll see after his case if he does really deserve better lmao

I can imagine V1's reaction when they realized they could just get thief to replace zellsis lmao

V1 2-0

Gen.G win here, then SEN goes on a classic NA lower bracket run and wins the whole thing anyways

where does korean val stand in terms of skill in the international scene. personally, as a fan of nuturn, it’s been EU=NA>KR>Rest, with Nuturn, the first or second best team, being able to compete with the likes of V1 and Fnatic. However i see on forums and tik tok ppl still really think BR and others are better and that KR looks like NA radiant ranked (although to be fair tik tok and many ppl in forums are brain dead anyway).

if rise beat c9B, are they tier 1 yet?

I wish there was a way to report someone as a smurf, then have valorant match all the reported smurfs together in ranked, thus making it impossible for them to rank up and preventing them from smurfing again

True, also since we talking ab 100t too, they need to sub in dicey again. he’s their good luck charm

we want Dicey, Dicey may teamflash all his ranked teammates but we want Dicey

Using the word cringe unironically makes you cringe yourself, just use a normal word like embarassing. Also wtf is going on with SEN

Idk man i just hop straight into games (tbf tho im only gold 1 so maybe don't take advice from me)

v1 is a valid flair tbh, most if not all v1 fans are chill

Anyone know if the korean group stage will be streamed, I'm tryna watch some matches before I go to sleep (especially the ones with NU, VS, DWG, and F4Q)

to the moon!

Hot take: These should be considered the only consistently best teams in NA, for now at least. (Based on last stage and current stage)

1. SEN
2. V1
3. NV
4. C9B
5. ABX

(they could be in any particular order after 1)

Me too man, so many upsets today. Definitely a win for tier 2 NA today

Bold to assume there are any TSM fans left in val after today

NV 2-0

Didn't they not have Jamppi that first qualifier?

Lmao Vikings are lower tier 1 in both NA and EU

yea ig we'll see once they enter main event and see if the changes paid off, but if they don't have the success they're gonna catch a lot of flak.

Shanks took his shirt off sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

I like zekken, but still hate the org for just benching thwifo like that

Whoever was saying NRG had top 5 potential, I congratulate you for being an absolute clown

Its ok guys Wardell was playing with his left hand first map and bang misclicked during agent select, currently up 9-0 #TSMFTXWIN

If true, then that means TSM didn't pick a crappy comp this time LOL

When did I ever say anything about single elim??? Genuinely confused rn

One thing EU will always have over us is the ability to actually see more than 1 stream lmao.

ah, got you. that's unfortunate, i wonder what happened to the nsg b and c streams

If you guys find streams for any of the NA games today could you post it under this thread so that me and others can see them, so far I only see one stream for the FaZe vs Dark Zero game

I think Fnatic gets a pass on Breeze cause its a newer map, and besides they have a really strong Bind so should still be Fnatic 2-1

They def will, 100T vs TSM is 20k+ viewers guranteed

Fnatic ??????

jammyz and thwifo should definitely be picked up by a good team

I mean I did say you could pick a team from any region... personally my choice would either be Rise or F4Q from Korea

When V1 lost in the Ro16 vs TSM in Stage 1 Challengers 3, they were still on the border of tier 1 and not considered a real contender. Of course, some may have predicted that wouldn't last long due to the talent from CSGO they had on their roster, however, I think very few if anyone at all predicted that they would eventually become the second-best team in NA. Now that we are onto a new stage, I ask which tier 2/borderline tier 1 team (in any region) has the best chance of making a run similar to v1?

Don't recall him ever saying "significantly", you may be misremembering. Also, I'm not saying you're wrong, but he wasn't including SEN when talking ab all this stuff, SEN is a big reason why, at least I think, NA tier 1 > EU tier 1

fair point, however, the occasional game such as G2 vs Fnatic yesterday will get 20k+ viewers, which I find interesting

to be fair CSGO is still alive in EU unlike NA

??? im just saying in EU tier 2 teams acc have the ability to beat tier 1 teams, unlike NA, making EU more fun to watch at times

Tier 1 NA> Tier 1 EU, but
Tier 2 EU> Tier 2 NA no cap
Edit: don't know why this is so unpopular, Na teams are the only ones to take maps off SEN while the other regions couldn't even get 1
Edit 2: ok I shall admit defeat this time, didn't know this was such a bad take sadge

gl to him on VS, but i still believe in NU

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Beyblade is a close second

Total Drama Island

stop shouting. Also bad bait, hopefully no one falls for it

Sir this is a Wendy's

Only thing sadder than these toxic Turkish people is the fact you made an account just to shit on the country of Turkey

whats going on with vitality