prolly cuz he was getting paid the big bucks and everyone was like "oh hes ganna make bleed so good" implying he was way better than them all and then he went negative like every series. I did not keep up with the drama at all so I have like 0 actual idea but that seems reasonable to me

I think fnc > g2 > sen currently

is this satire

its absolutely true hes wasting his talent but in his current position he absolutely knows he's safe on the roster (only way he's gone if he chooses to leave). he's young so probably just securing that bag

ya he was in flow state, if it went to map 5 he would've broken the bo5 record for sure

idk about fnc scouting cuz derke left and they needed a replacement, so the up-and-coming ascension-winning duelist dropping +20 every game wasn't too hard to spot. definitely insane journey for him tho

ik i wanna see a record being broke here

i really hope fnc lose this map so he can get like +50 that would be insane

LOL WTF

wait why are none of these streamed

crashies has lowkey been great. good comms, established t1 initiator, and he seems to vibe really well with them especially boaster and kaajak. if Leo came back at 85% its hard to imagine them being 'better' especially after fnc just destroyed who I thought were the best team in emea

my fault I copy pasted it from somewhere heh

Brimstone: 19.25 seconds
Omen: 15 seconds
Astra: 14.25 seconds
Clove: 13.5 seconds
Harbor: 15 seconds
Viper: 15 seconds

1.5 sec or less duration compared to every character except brim

I mean I feel like the only clear cut exception is Jonahp, everyone still considers him to be insane even tho hes -9 -21 -0 -4 -10 in his last 5 games (-44 total), but since g2 is still owning he must be doing something right

if a team is struggling and a players stats are noticeably pretty bad then we kinda have to point fingers unless their util/comms etc is GENUINELY insane. all the strong teams like g2/th/mibr also all have a very low age average and are just insane aimers w good stats and mechanics

besides -asuna and -boostio which u said are obvious, play for setting up cryo, hes the best player on that team by a mile. also idk if the comms improved cuz the last thing I remember is asuna screaming and people laughing about that but thats probably an issue

wdym the only reason I used high elo stats is bc they said "clove is useless in high elo"

• #1 ranked player last act beating zekken, the most dominant NA ranked player, by over 100 elo: notexxd, a clove one-trick
• #1/2/3 ranked players this act: notexxd (again), ion2x, and canezerra, with 78% 73% and 83% winrates respectively (clove most played)
• basically half the players in top 100 ranked: clove players with absurd winrates

everyones justification for hating clove seems to be "no util!!" but when chamber was absolutely dominant he literally had no team util besides 2 dumbass trips that u could see from a mile away (think they nerfed it to 1 trip at one point and he was still dominant, it was the tp nerfs later that actually killed him). the reason he was GOOD was because he had abilities that KILLED people, just like cloves overheal/meddle/ult. clove is fundamentally obviously a smokes agent but with actual fragging potential and is statistically the most dominant ranked agent especially in higher elos

well I assume they mean like relative to their time, so like how good TH is in 2025 vs. how good LOUD was in 2022

5 boasters simultaneously igling

I dont particularly support either but TH did 39-16 G2 in that bo5 so I dont think it was a fluke

imm 2

th 3-2 g2 grand finals

tyty

dude forsakens reaction time is like 0 ms wtf and this is the most aggressive player I've seen LOL

clove otp

rrq 1 first blood lol

th is clear #1, #2 imo is fnc, #3 is tossup between liquid or bbl but id lean towards liquid. if bbl beat th tho that would change everything lol but I don't see it happening

prx tenz would actually be insane, any org that signs tenz as cc would benefit immensely so I imagine he is going to sign with someone soon

has to be boaster

they need prime meteor back idk whats going on w him these last few games

hes so close on so many of these clutches LOL I agree tho he does seem solid

i see, ima watch this game im intrigued

is ash actually good, ik geng are frying rn but I've never watched them. ofc the core of karon munchkin texture is insane and foxy9 imo has crazy potential but I actually have 0 clue ab ash

we got flashes of prime alfa against fut, chron imo is worse than previous years but overall the players are pretty consistent on fnc, I think they'll take it 2-1

i went from 144 to 280 and did not notice a significant diff, 60 to 144 is huge diff and anything else is not that crazy

valyn just cuz he igls too, bang v1c xenom sup

kc and fut are def worse than fnc, liquid is close and bbl slightly worse than liquid. id say fnc are the clear #2 rn but not by a very large margain

fnc is the 2nd best team in emea and they stood no chance against th.

ya ion and cane are both 16

i think theyre both shaky rn but benjy looked good last game so I agree

im in uni and have finals in 2 weeks and I'm watching it

in terms of CURRENT form

miniboo >>> derke (#1 acs across all regions, undefeated going into playoffs vs. derke barely scraping into playoffs)
leo isn't playing rn so cant compare current form
woot >> chron (his form is pretty bad lately imo, also wo0t is #5 rated in emea vs chron #30 something)
boo > boaster, boasters lowkey looking nice lately (except in the th game)
benjy < alfa

if you're talking about ALL 5 in prime, then obv you're right and fnc clear because they legit had a dynasty

rage bait surely

tl 2-1 kc
th 2-0 fnc
mibr 2-1 sen (or other way around)
g2 2-0 eg

well miniboo is #1 in rating across every region, though I do agree that taking him over zekken and jaw wouldn't be like an obvious choice, he fits very well into the heretics system just like jaw and zekken fit into their teams. mada I feel like is a question mark mainly cuz nrg look so bad

if benjy finds his form then th (bc woot and miniboo are already looking monstrous), if not then maybe mibr but they might crumble bc of lack of experience

lol what 3 teams would qual to toronto based on pure attractiveness

what do we think about jonahp rn because g2 is obviously looking insane (yes they just lost to sen) and win the majority of their matches but jonah is -10 -8 -18 +2 -12 in g2's last 5 games (4 of which were wins), which is -46 total or around -10 per match

ik looking at stats alone is silly but yea

dawg when they said they would postpone the games i thought itd be like the next day how is there not even any announcements or updates on this LOL. takes talent to be this uncoordinated

g2 was def the fav, everyone had t1 at 7th or 8th for winning and they won tho so its funny lol