He did well (on already succesful team), but my point is that before these both Patitek and Hiro were just tier 2 players that didn't stand out in any crazy way. They were good tier 2 players, but not like "lets build a champions roster" type of players. Now some people rate them like top tier 1 players because they managed to do well on already good rosters. Could have been any of the multiple talented and promising tier 2 players and they could have done as well. And final point about Patitek is that I think there's better options with more room to develop.