I don’t think any of those is tier 1 level
I think Bisk I’d the closest it gets

Lembo dijo hoy que Klaus salía y que mta estaba probando

omw xD

Fair, the actual point I really wanna make is to try and eliminate a little bit that perception that America's average level is higher than EMEA's average level. Because that really is up to every team individually and varies a lot. And looking at it from a fact perspective is just not true

EG > LOUD > FNC > FUT > NAVI > GIA > NRG > TL > KRU
based on their placements and using the placements of the team that eliminated them to untie

Yk what's funny to me? America's fans think Americas is better because we are a 1 team region. Meanwhile to me this event has kinda proven how our seeds number 4 and 5 Giants and NAVI are clearly better than Americas 4 and 5 KRU and LEV.

So now, that argument they have been using all year saying that FNC > Americas > EMEA works against them.
I have heard "The level of a region is not defined by its beast team" all year long. So what happens now that EG and LOUD are above but all the rest of the region is far behind?

xD

Not much, this is all I know https://www.vlr.gg/270073/c9-info

We'll see

No, def tier 1, we just don't know which. Or at least let's just not assume it's NRG, there is place for a doubt

Matter of fact tier 2 orgs probably paying more than a minimum salary

I wouldn't be so sure about that

Lucas Rojo, who coached in NA so knows people, matter of fact coached runi
And Lembo actual reporter who textually said, 2 different sources are confirming me Lucas information and also added #6

Nope, info on 2 separate streams from 3 different sources

That has been rumored for a while, I hope it happens but I wouldn't bet on it

Well the skin sales are only if you're good enough but yes, fair

I mean they probably were getting paid more than 50k, but they could have offered less since no other tier 1 org wanted those players. Demon1 was on a minimum for sure tho. And yes they have made a shit tone of money now and will prob get more bag for next year

https://www.vlr.gg/post/2821552/vitality-reduced-to-two-with-molsi-benching

I mean look at EG, they built their roster like a month after everyone else and look at them now

Yup, Disguised was talking about it, he seems to be right

Black means no info yet, no that they are staying, #8

Red means 100% out, Orange means doubts, Blue means 100% staying, Green is for signings. He has 1 spreadsheet for EMEA with list of KOI and TH tryouts too. It's sort of Flyn's spreadsheet but unlike Flyn if Lembo doesn't have good info he just leaves it blank

Yes that is what that means. He also saw that James report saying johnhqt and tex were practicing with crashies so they were going to NRG. According to him those are tryouts for another team, not NRG

#6 might help explain a bit which happened in march of this year
KOI's issued are also of a different sort, but yes. Don't look it as "Riot chose the wrong orgs, look at it as "If the most financial stable orgs struggle like this imagine, how the other orgs would"

If the players want too much money they will prob be out like in C9, not sure about names or what will happen exactly

Better than last year for sure, but tbh they need to get rid of Turko and Souchni and get upcoming players to have a higher celling, higher risk but higher reward

Many orgs in similar situations, there is just no money. Apparently Silicon Valley bank crash affecting them a lot

xD

Several sources explain that C9 project is paying minimum salaries to all their players. All of C9 players have rejected the offer but Jake, so everyone is out but him. The plan is to give Mce 5 rookies and let him do what he does best while saving as much money as they can. Similar case to 100T, both orgs in financial struggle, don't wanna overspend

Aspas Saadhack Yuri Kiles Link confirmed

He was on an uncomfortable role, will be back to smoker and has more experience now to IGL, will have a good team environment with his brother. But yes I do not like it, I think that is this teams biggest issue

Zekken you mean right?
Yes, actually Riens and woot are really good friends, you have the duo initiator flex. Boo and MiniBoo brother buff and Benjy is just such a nice guy. This team can be top 1 or top 11 xD

I'm not suggesting BBL can't be a successful team, I'm saying Riens will probably choose whichever roster he believes has a better chance of winning. Nothing to do with last year since both teams are fully rebuilding anyway

Yeah they are, I'm confirming it to you. Riens has practiced with BBL, TH, TL and KC

BBL might be more clout of him, but winning is what is gonna give him the fans supporting him. Aren't Alfajer and cNed more popular than BBL players?

Well Woot and Riens are close friends and TH pays more than BBL, but yes it is an option as of now. Riens is the least likely of the 3

His birthday is march 16th xD
Idk why, if the day is different or how it exactly works, but I just think he will be able

Everyone talking about Russ on KOI. Koi is currently doing tenmans trying out people, the players rn are starxo, trexx, sheydos, luzuh, meddo, link, russ, unfake, shadow, chiwawa

Those are the first 7 names that have been tried this last 2 days. 18 more names to come in the following days

I believe woot has permission from Riot to play from the begging. Don't quote me on it tho, but I think I heard something like that

This is currently the most likely roster. Even tho Woot still has interest from VIT, NAVI, TL, MiniBoo could still change because Mixwell hasn't retired yet (pretty sure he will) so yes as of now this is the roster. And TL, BBL, KC also want Riens. But as of now this roster is looking pretty close to being true

Boo Smoker IGL (Weakest link imo)
Benjy Sentinel
Riens Initiator
MiniBoo Duelist/flex
Woot Duelist/flex

He might be a decent choice as IGL, he might have a shot

If you’re looking for Raze players you have many more options. Jamppi can op if necessary so you can sign just a really good Raze. Molsi for example is cracked af on Raze, or the expensive options are Trexx and Cloud. Ig Zeek too but that would be a mess xD

xD

Nope I don't know him, but I'll check it out. Is he also Dcops friend? xd

Didn't know that part, ty

I highly doubt this is the roster for 2024, maybe just off season. I still don't believe the 2 import rule only for china

I think he just backed up on his own info xD

I think Flynn is absolutely drunk

Fair

Well Onur has stepped down, we'll see what follows

Darker is more realistic