I said that this being the first ever game IGLing, as a team, an off season tournament, agent bans and bo5 it was about to be a shitshow

Again my point is, they do need time, quite a few actually, just not as much as TH should need

Well idk where you have read I said they need time, but yes they need time. How does that make sense? Well, because TH needs even more time.
A team with 4 players full of tier 1 experience should be better short term than a team of 4 rookies, as simple as that

I think short term KOI should be better, but atp idk

Shadow is a fine veteran, top tier 2, low tier 1. Problem? Barely any room for improvement, so you're bound to that, high tier 2 low tier 1

rhyme retired tf is Giants supposed to do

1 Musashi is not a duelist
2 Kamo is a much better pick up than Alive and it's not even close, you'll see that
3 Fair opinion but then you're not mad at the pick ups you're mad at who stayed

Who's a bad pick up? Shadow? Yes, Unfake? No, Kamo? Hell no

You expect the owner to say the players who he just picked up are worse? Keznit has never played in English, and importing a player takes months. A little bit of reading between lines my friend

I'm willing to give starxo a chance, he ended the season really well and tbf there are not many IGL's, taking a flyer on a rookie to IGL is not something I would have preferred. That being said they have Unfake who is exactly that, so if things don't go well he'll come in

Is Shadow who I do not believe in, I don't think he was the move, but we'll see how it turns out

I'm very glad they chose him

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I'll save you the thinking, it's awful and pointless, including the bo5s, but it is what it is, off season Ig

well I'm ngl I haven't paid much attention either so someone correct me if I'm wrong. Highest seed bans 1 agent, other one bans another one. None of the 2 can play neither of the banned agents. I believe different agents are banned for each map, Pheonix and Viper for Ascent. I think some teams just ban a random agent so it doesn't affect themselves

So is trent, point is, missing out on XSet isn't too big of a loss now that they made it in. I much rather have Guard core than XSet core

Off season bo5, agent bans, new team, first time IGLing, about to be interesting xD

Either that or they would have fallen off just like they have. Plus cryo and zekken are both full duelists now, and I don't see how having Cryo is better than having leaf either

Half of the players in that roster are not tier 1 anymore, wouldn’t have lasted long

Def not in valorant fanbase

Bring the league to Spain easy fix xD

https://www.vlr.gg/player/24177/mimi ?

Big messed up internally. If Riot didn't choose them is for a reason. All I'm saying is you might wanna move on cause no orgs can be replaced till 2026

I'm afraid Fokus ascending is your only chance

Off season tournament yes, but also keep in mind this is a tournament with agent bans too. So can’t really prepare it, it’s just random

Bro comments the same thing after every TH/Giants game, pick a side bro

Trexx is the better Raze and better Kayo which is what he mostly plays. Trent plays better Sova, Skye and Viper, which is what he mostly plays. Idk understand the comparison much tbh

vokashu in China cracked af too btw

Sayf was far more important on a team who reached much more

Anyone saying zekken has not watched Sayf play more than twice

Doesn't really matter since NASR also owns them

Unfortunately Team Raad clears them

Believe it was 103 + 30, which btw idk what the add ons were but I'm gonna take a wild guess and say he's meeting them xD

You guys don't draw in India? Bro you should try out, you might have a talent for art you haven't discovered yet

Imagine with Xabi

Why? Barcelona already has, they're a great team in Superliga https://liquipedia.net/leagueoflegends/Barça_eSports
PSG Talon
We've had Betis here in valorant
Villareal and Levante both in LOL tier 3
And if I start naming orgs owned by football player I won't finish today

I really doubt this happens but it's not that weird

Yes, LOL has always been his main game and it still is, which is really impressive. Good thing both off seasons are not at the same time or else this man would be dead

Yeah, they haven't. Here if you wanna see https://www.vlr.gg/279601/fut-esports-vs-team-heretics-red-bull-home-ground-4-emea-qualifier-round-robin

Mixwell is retired

I mean that unfortunately it's not just for the crossfire, it's the final one

And so is kamo, problem is shadow imo

Unfortunately not

As of now MrFalin is the only one who has proven he can do his job, the rest have always been liabilities

Very excited about Kamo, and very not excited about Shadow xD

I was gonna reply to the none sense you're typing but then I read the last paragraph and now all I have to say is xD

Bro names the thread "TOP 5 current razes" and procedes to link me a year old thread with a not even that good of a game.

Also is being a Raze just being a good entry, sure zekken is a good entry. But if you click on FKPR you'll see he was top 3/4 Raze entry in Americas this past split and even worse in other categories https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=raze

I'm sorry but there is absolutely no reason to rank zekken that far up, I'm sure you can be very high on how good he is and be very impressed by the eye test, but saying he is currently top 3 in the world is absolutely delusional

Sure but wtf does “ He’s literally been a top 10 raze/entry since champs 2022 “ have to do with him being a top 3 rn

You’re absolutely delusional if you think Zekken is even a top 3 Raze in Americas

Why are we using a countries data for an specific case? Alfajer’s English was just as bad as Pancada’s and Sacy’s, and so were many other players.

I Can guarantee you after 1 split playing in LA and practicing everyday their English became much better than all those players who have been “playing ranked in English”.

I’m not saying it was never an issue, but atp it’s simply an awful excuse for a massive underperformance, justify it however you want

So how does he go from 10 to 3

People trying to bring zekken up as a top 5 Raze in the world when he barely is just in Americas.

Keznit and Jawgemo are the 2 best Razes in americas idk how no one is mentioning Keznit. Aspas raze is also better than zekkens, who is probably more like tied next to Victor, or even mwzera or King

rhyme accepted a scholarship and quit competing

Redgar already joined Giants