Woot has been raining Iso on ranked since it came out, dude has way more hours than any other duelist

Woot's Averaging 1.7 rating 340 ACS this split so far

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I support the 3 spanish teams equally, plus I didn't expect TH to be this good at the start of the year so it feels like bandwagoning

Opposite imo, MiniBoo does the entry duties giving Woot all the freedom to be an assassin. Plus Woot's performances are not because of his duelist util etc, it's because he can kill you with a stick if necessary

lmaoooo not the first round

Nah not my call Spanish casters were insinuating they knew it xD

Get ready for Woot Iso guys

MiniBoo hasn't been on his Madrid form lately, he'll pick it up

Weirdly enough I think it's the sunset, kinda cut them off guard and they were probably overconfident. Props to FUT tho

Trynna stop Riens momentum fr

15-0 lol

I don’t think you can win without a superstar duelist

Bro started refusing to get pancc and now it’s gotten so bad he doesn’t see another escape xDD

No, before yesterday they had actual chances

You're correct. It's H2H first, but in this case with a 3 way tie or more it's as you said, map difference then round difference then bo1

Giants had a chance at playoffs and KOI didn't. Not anymore

They need a big rebuild. And I just hope that rebuild has purpo on Initiator. Keep Cloud/Purpo initiator/flex duo, do what you will with the rest

Top 3 at playoffs are seed's 1 2 and 3 and then from the remaining teams whoever has more points is seed 4

You're confused. Points are to see who goes to champions not to playoffs. Top 3 at playoffs goes straight to champions and then from the 8 remaining teams whoever has more points is the 4th team to champs

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Keznit

Crazy that Woot is a top 3 duelist in the world without being a duelist xD

I can’t believe Doncic missed that free throw

He’s done on tier 1

Bro basically said I tried to rob someone but I got caught before so it’s not a crime xD

The one time I wanted KOI to lose they remember how to fucking play

You talking about Dryad? Cause I believe she’s Shy’s gf so not the most objective person to ask xD

If he didn't know he was a minor he would have explicitly said so

yeah he should be allowed tryouts but by no means an guarantee to stay

No, but vlr is just not working properly

Only player KOI should be keeping, bro's stats do not tell half of how good he has been

France what doing

Yeah but precisely LOL I think it's a great example of why so many small leagues don't work and the merger was necessary. But anyway, Ig all we can do now is wait and see how it turns out

LVP has great casters and some great things but also some very stupid stuff. I gotta say our tier 3 production is usually on point, we have all players with player cams in tier 3 and not in tier 2, and it works better than in VCT that it's always delayed af xD

Orgs can't live on 1k viewers. You're killing some to allow the the others to live instead of waiting for all of them to die.
It needed to be done and if someone is loosing is the players, for us the viewers this is 10 times more fun

fr, nt tho

Dach x Polaris was very necessary imo I don't get what happened there. But anyway, I think it's bound to happen soon

Does Riot organize the Italian league, did it not have an independent organizer? I don't think it's a matter of it not being popular enough to Riot, I think it's a matter of the orgs, eventually the good one were all gonna leave, it was already happening in Spain at least.

We need to see what happens to tier 3. Overall this should be a boost for tier 3, many of the tier 2 players will have to go there and the goal of tier Italian tier 3 should still be ascending to tier 2. There will be 1 team ascending and I think LVP should make a tournament with the 2 best tier 3 teams from Portugal Spain and Italy and 2 premier teams, winner gets the 8th spot. It's either gonna be something like that or tier 3 merger as you said idk. Regardless tier 3 will still have that aspiration for sure

Alright fair enough but the league can't survive off of 1 proper org, no matter how good production is and I'm not sure that's gonna be any different next year

We also have a proper tier 3 system Liga Radiante . And even a very decent amateur tier 4 Circuito Tormenta . But people can't live from those and that's a mindset shift that's gonna be rough. KPI with Bisk and Insider Ascended to Rising all the way up from Liga Radiante for example

I think Spain Polaris and Dach are the only ones who have it as far as I know and with this merger I think it's vital Italy and Portugal get one or take spots in Liga Radiante

Let's talk then. I've read the whole thing now and I'm ngl it's worse than I thought. 1 spot for Italy and Portugal is not nearly enough. it should have been 4 2 2 and 2 through qualifier minimum.

My initial point and why I said I disagree is because I think the scene was fucked in the long term regardless. 1k viewers is not sustainable, and it was bound to end like Polaris with no orgs. I think merging is a very good solution to fix that and make it sustainable but if it's only 1 team it's kind of dumb

That being said a tier 3 league needs to be started in Italy or maybe Riot will also give slots in Liga Radiante (https://www.vlr.gg/event/2081/circuito-tormenta-liga-radiante-2024-split-2) to ascend the league from there. Talent can be grown in tier 3 which will get a huge boost from all the remainings of tier 2 and be very respectable. But a mindset change is needed, most players in that league need another job while they compete. Ik it sucks people lose their jobs but the issue was giving so many in the first place

Overall I do understand the frustration tho

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1. Overall W, if I'm understanding this correctly we will have 3 tournaments a year where regions play each other not just Ascension right? Fuck yeah that's what I've been asking for

2. I'm surprised only Spain Portugal and Italy are gonna merge. No way they don't do anything with Polaris bro wtf. I think we need even less regions

3. Why only 8 teams? Should have been 10/12 imo. Only 1 guaranteed spot for Portugal and Italy is not enough

Yeah vlr just makes it weird because it assigns points to the winner which leads to confusion

I hard disagree and we can get into a long debate why. But first of all, where has it been announced

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Actually Ik it sounds weird but as far as I understand the points are only for the play in. The Ascension spot goes to whoever wins second split regardless of points I believe

To me they should be favorites to win, but I'm probably biased. Regardless no tier 2 EMEA fan will tell you they're not one of the main contenders

Unless I'm doing my math wrong KPI has already secured the Play in spot at minimum

Currently the minimum points they can have is 165, and unless I'm doing the math wrong it's impossible that 2 teams get more points than that regardless of what happens

I don't think you're aware of how bad the situation is in tier 2 at all. When I say the regions won't survive I mean they will all end up very similar to Polaris other than France/Turkey maybe someone else. Look at LOL man, there are barely 2 successful leagues and even Superliga is crashing rn. It's absolutely delusional to think any of those leagues are gonna thrive

And I'm not killing any region at all, #113 and #117 is what I mean, give 3/4 spots to Spain France Italy and Portugal. This won't be killing any scene at all, completely opposite. Tell me French fans won't be more excited to watch Mandatory or Joblife play Barça or UCAM than they will Valiant. Specially when I come out and tell them all French teams are shit and that we own them and get them triggered, wayyyyy more fun, entertaining, competitive and sustainable long term.

Start a tier 3 league like Liga Radiante to develop more talent if that's what worries you. https://www.vlr.gg/event/2081/circuito-tormenta-liga-radiante-2024-split-2
Can even have a tier 3 to tier 2 ascension