role of smokes bro lock in he was in the top 10 igls globally but was not rated as a individual

in 2022 he was not the igl you are saying he is

not a top 5 smokes player and was not considered to be the igl he is now in 2022

as individuals yes excluding tenZ but atp we hadnt seen tenz reinvent himself

thats another thing 23 was boaster proving he was a top igl before 23 people maybe had him top 10

i really don't think rosters like that are super teams in the same way

yeah iZu is a monster on server i think he lacks out of game stuff tho

c0m was coming off of a champs win

boaster a world class smokes player 😭😭

mazino is a top 5 flex rn but if you considered him a top 5 flex going into 2024 or 2026 you are lying

destroyed in tier 1 😭😭😭😭

was mid in 23 and 25 both of his stand out years were spaced apart

ofc its a bbl flair 😭

apr bro this guy was world class initiator

#25

t1 26 is just t1 25 with a igl so i mean you could say they are but they already had a core i feel like its a little different its kinda like prx with invy

top 5 duelist not igl obviously

#6

yea i agree hes a world class igl and it is the most successful roster for a reason but you have to factor in the individual and boaster im sorry is just not a top 5 smokes in emea and never has been

#6

kicks had a great champs try to name 5 flash initiators better then him in emea in 2024

i want to go back through all the "super teams" assembled and see which ones were actually "super teams"

to me for a team to truly be a "super team" you need all 5 players to be top 5 in their region in there respective roles.

FNC 23'
Derke ✅
Leo ✅
Boaster ❌
Chronicle ✅
Alfajer ✅

(as a igl boaster is world class but as a smokes player hes very lacking by my definition it doesnt fit)

SEN 23

zekken ✅
Sacy ✅
pANcada ✅
dephh ❌
TenZ ❌

(dephh is self explanatory and TenZ at this point in time didnt have a proper role and was coming off a season of disaster)

NRG 24
Demon1 ✅
Ethan ✅
Victor ❌
crashies ✅
Marved ❌

(marved had a disaster run on sentinels and victor statistically wasnt close to his 2022 form)

LEV 24
aspas ✅
C0M ✅
kiNgg ✅
Mazino ❌
tex ❌

(mazino at this point in time had always been a role player and tex was coming from tier 2)

VIT 25
Derke ✅
trexx ✅
Sayf ✅
Kicks ✅
Less ✅

(this roster is the only one that fits the criteria so far)

T1 25
BuZz ✅
iZu ✅
stax ❌
sylvan ❌
Meteor ✅

(sylvan was a unknown quantity and staxs individual performance had been poor in the past year)

MIBR 26
aspas ✅
zekken ✅
verno ✅
Mazino ❌
tex ❌

(this roster has 2 pieces that came off of their worst year in their career)

VIT 26
Derke ✅
Chronicle ✅
Jampii ✅
Profek ✅
Sayonara ❌

(sayonara might be a prodigy but he is coming from tier 2)

overall i would say there has only ever been one roster to fit this criteria

i gotta stop u here

thanks?

true

not a bad take tbh i do think ge, ag, fur, and m8 coaching staff is up there too

besides nats on waylay during champs this coaching staff is one of the best we have seen.

vitality 2025 is the only super team on paper we have ever had

different sport entirely

supa >

so the definition of a super team is having all 5 roles filled by the best players in the region. mibr does not fit this definition.

bump gimme ur preds

emea begging for the best team itw not to show up lol

you sub him in regardless

platchat probably did better than him this kickoff

fns takes are usually horrible bro has the worst prediction record i swr

DFM > PRX
T1 > RRQ (didn't watch t1 game today so im lowkey clueless)

TL > VIT
M8 > FNC

NRG > 100T
G2 > MIBR

this team is shameless

on condom man as well

abusing bathroom breaks is criminal

he had a ton of impact in the win but he is kinda ass

geng is long term project you cant base your opinion solely on this years results he had a ton of impact in the shanghai win and WORST is ludicrous when players like boostio, c0m, nobody, sylvan etc. have won

stop with lakia slander

valyn and sayf

u got soft hands brother

im knowing dfm owns them

alright ill just go kurt cobain myself then

awareness bump

im chilling rn i just know by the time pacific starts up imma start feeling it

he went to M80 after NRG but M80 pulled out and he was in talks with LOUD this year but they decided not to go international