So what? Can't I still like other teams?

Looking at the history of Champions winners (except LOUD), every team was a random out of form roster who got shit on by fans throughout the season. So, this becomes a real prediction and is likely to happen.

If so, it will prove how much these tier 1 teams take their position for granted and make shitty decision while t2 teams can be better than them. They are always focusing on star power instead of team building and rarely let the team be compatible.

I'm telling you, at least 2 teams from t2 will make it to champs next year that's how bad these rosters are.

I love how you said "aspas team". He truly is a team builder even though he is not an IGL. And there are still people out there thinking he is not top 2 in GOAT contest.

If nAts leaves, I leave

No you are right. I missed the detail that BBL and TL's top 3 championship points have been taken into account.

So unless TL lose 2 matches in a row. TH are in.

Yeah, I am sorry. What you said is right.

So, BBL need to make finals too. Just like Navi and GX.
And only TL need to make finals for TH to get seed #4.

Allow me to fix my stupid ass analysis.

TH need Both TL and BBL to make grand finals.

Here are the current championship points:
Fnatic - 18
Team Liquid - 16
Team heretics - 14
BBL - 12
Navi - 9
Vitality - 8
GiantX - 7

FNC are knocked out
BBL vs TL for finals spot
GX vs Navi for lower finals spot

We can consider FNC have qualified (probably as seed 3) since the only ones able to get more championship points will qualify as seed 1 or 2, if they do so.
I am gonna tell you who will qualify, based on both possible winners of the upper finals

Suppose TL win uppers, here are the possibilities it can play out as:

(TL qualify as seed 1 or 2 & TH get in as seed #4)

• If Navi win lowers semis and lose lower finals, they have a total of 10 points. They don't make it. If they win lower finals they make it as seed 1 or 2
  • Same goes for for GX. If they win against NAVI and lose lower finals. They have a total of 8 points and they miss out. If they win, they qualify and BBL miss out.
    -FNC and TH qualify as 3rd and 4th seeds respectively.

Suppose BBL wins uppers, here are the possibilities:

(BBL qualify as seed 1 or 2)

• If anyone of NAVI or GX win lower finals, they make it as seed 1 or 2, while TL locks in seed #4 with 16 championship points. (TH miss out by 2 points as FNC locks 3rd seed)
  • If TL wins lower finals, same as earlier, FNC and TH qualify as 3rd and 4th seeds, while BBL and TL secure top 2.

Judging by the form NAVI and GX are in, it looks like either one of them can make it to the finals.
TH need all their luck right now because TL need to qualify as top 2 seed.

Tell me if I am wrong.

Well Sen didn't even make it to shanghai. MIBR, even thought they couldn't perform, did make it to toronto.
And about Sen placing high, well champs hasn't happened yet so Idk what makes you hate MIBR when we are so far from champs.

Are you by any chance, 14?

to APEKS. confirmed

but why not he is good

that's becuase Tuyz and Cauanzin were a godsend. Same for Leo and Chronicle for FNC (although they had prior experience)

not to mention Sadhaak, Less and fucking aspas was still there so it worked out.

There is a great chance you are right but still not sure about thier future

that showed

where??!!
its a drought all over man 😭😭

that's what I said, last season(2023).
this season was 2024
are you confusing 2025 with "This Season" when game changers hasn't even started yet

See man I have always seen Loud as a team to be feared from. But everything has changed now. And this might be the end of their glory days. Everyone has left now and that what remains isn't nearly as good as before.

Lost Masters to OPTIC and Won Champions 2022 against them.

First Sacy, Pancada and Bzk(HC) left, but the team was still just as strong even with the rookies (Tuyz, Cauanzin)

Almost Beat Prime Fnatic at Lock\IN and then placed 3rd in champions 2023.

Then aspas and FroD(HC) left. qck joined but it was a disaster. Even Brought back pancada still no luck.
They spent all year trying to qualify and even in Madrid they didn't do well.

A month ago there were speculations that the roster would be built around Sadhaak and Less and Cauanzin. But Sadhaak and Less have left for Vitality.
Now all they have is Tuyz and Cauanzin the rookies from last season, who couldn't do their best this season.

What do you guys think will be LOUD's roster for the upcoming season?
Do they have any chance of building a strong team or is it over for LOUD?

Frod is not leaving MIBR now that we are hearing rumors about aspas joining. Even heard they are building the entire team around him.
And Less and Sadhaak are off to join Vitality.
FNC and TH have competition wih derke joining VIT too.
'Finally not a one/two team region.

Bro Less is off to EU to join Vitality

Are they open for trials yet? I can give it a go!