he has the potential but f0rsaken is still the best indonesian player imo

lmao wtf is this

Using your logic
PRX vs T1 : 13-3, 13-6
GE vs T1 : 8-13, 13-4, 7-13
easy W for PRX stats says it all

In my personal opinion, he was never that good. Everyone was amazed by his performance in champions 2021, but you could add any average duelist to this talon core roster, and he would be playing good because of the supports (surf and garnets are the example, they basically were nobodies outside Thai before they joined talon/xerxia). Now he has to play as support, he can frag sure, but he is using his utilites for himself not for his team. That's why I think JitboyS is a better option for a support player

I've been saying this, patiphan is not a good team player. JitboyS fits the team way better

If Talon lose this game...smh

silver take not gonna lie

sScary

to be fair he is not comparing loud-rrq he was just saying that loud have played this comp before so this comp isn't weird/troll comp

jinggg himself said he's not comfortable playing jett

If you're going to say shit at least get your facts straight brother

after seeing last 2 talon matches, I don't want to say that they are better than prx yet

Xerxia (Talon core) had lost to Team Secret before, and they played pretty solid at lock in. Don't know why people are still doubting them

what's the first?

Oh I see, that makes sense too

Yeah, I remember that round when Xeppa clutched because nobody was watching drop. I hope they already fix this comm issue when they are starting to play in the Pacific league because the disrespects are becoming too much for them haha

I agree, no hate to SkRossi. On Pearl, his kayo utilities weren't that impactful, especially his flashes, T3xture kept dashing to site where enemies weren't blind or got suppressed at all. On Lotus, I don't know why he kept flanking using sova when the team needed his recon and drone (I know initiators like JsVash are doing this a lot, but just not as many rounds as SkRossi).

I think for PRX it was, tho. Their gameplay heavily depends on their aim since they take 1v1 duels most of the time.

Exactly what I'm thinking, even as a Talon fan, I'm still putting them as the second best team in APAC right now. Well at least until Talon and TS finally manage to beat them, since PRX pretty much owned these teams last year.

Yes I agree they did worse than champs but they're still one of the favorites. If you look at the C9 match, Lotus was much closer than you thought (they lost thrifties and a few 1v1 situations that could've gone either way, even Vanity on the post match interview said the Lotus match was closer than it seem). PRX got destroyed on Pearl by arguably the best Pearl team right now, even the best in Asia, DRX got destroyed on that map as well.

1. DRX
2. PRX
3. Talon
4. Zeta
5. Gen.G
6. TS
7. T1
8. RRQ
9. GE
10. DFM

OMFG we actually won a map against DRX XD

Won't say that until Talon manage to beat them. PRX pretty much owned this core roster last year

PRX vs ZETA vibe ahaha

Realistically speaking DRX 2-0 Talon, but as a fan of Talon I hope at least a 2-1 even if we lose

Couldn't have said it better myself

It's hard to tell since half of Pacific teams haven't played yet, but IMO top 3 is still DRX, Paper Rex and Zeta. People really are underestimating PRX a lot because of last game (they could've won the Lotus map and went to map 3 if it weren't for thrifties and losing clutches. And on Pearl, DRX vs C9 result tells you how strong C9 is on Pearl). PRX is still our kryptonite at the end of the day XD

sScary was indeed the most important player of Xerxia, losing sScary was a big loss for them. IMO, the reason they are doing well is that Crws been improving a lot and Sushiboys is back to his 2021 form. Also the addition of Jitboy (good additional flex) and GarnetS (which I think is a better duelist than Surf since he can play any other duelists beside Jett) really helps a lot too. But I won't get ahead of myself just yet because they didn't play against real contenders, the match vs DRX will tell us if this roster really a contender in Pacific League or not

not including Talon:

1. FS
2. MiTH
3. Xerxia
4. FW

surf 1-0 sscary

Japan. Their foods are just top tier

I'm sorry if you're one of those guys I mentioned, but damn you're so cringe if its true

I'm not generalizing you guys, I was just talking about those overproud fans who spammed on f0rsaken's live chat. All good

ikr why are they so proud after beating jason in a ranked game XD even skrossi was just chilling but these annoying fans are just too much

after that match, a lot of people are spamming ez in jason's live chat. lol so cringe

yes I do agree, personally I wanted to rate both of them equal (which I think they are). But I feel like f0rsaken didn't play his best especially in champs. Meanwhile jinggg was more consistent in those last 3 events. Thats why I said jinggg is better, at least for now.

fr why a lot of Indonesian on yt were mocking sscary. No offense to Indo, but indo teams have never beaten sscary in 2022...

*jinggg for now, f0rsaken comes 2nd imo

foxz - initiator & igl
sscary - controller
sushiboys (2021 form) - flex/sentinels
surf - chamber
kadoom - duelist

cant explain it to a braindead ig

he played bad on his debut in a B tier tourney but popped off in masters even called a top 5 controller? u dumb asf

he scared to look at k/d now

frags = skills
average irons take
literally every pros in apac are respecting sscary

if you judge him by this single performance than you dumb ash + keep your bait away from me i dont need it

i think we all know that sScary was the main reason of xerxia success in apac lol. without him i don't think this ex x10 roster even has a chance against current prx. coming from a xia fan btw

i don't get why people were overhyping him after x10 champs run. don't get me wrong, pati was a good player, but people were saying like he carried x10 to playoffs when he actually didn't ''carry'' x10 by himself
also yes, individually forsaken and jinggg are way better than pati.

yes, watched jinggg's streams and he always said that he's planning to continue his pro career with PRX next year.

They are for sure will be picked up as a whole if f0rsaken decides he's not leaving

Idk man, Jinggg alr said multiple times on his stream that there's a big possibility that he'll be able to continue his pro career with prx since he'll do the NS in 2024. I don't think he's leaving anytime soon

lol