You just proved that you never played on a team nor do you understand how team dynamics work. eSports worked for many years without an org owner being involved. Wasting my time talking to you, you're truly clueless.
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You just proved that you never played on a team nor do you understand how team dynamics work. eSports worked for many years without an org owner being involved. Wasting my time talking to you, you're truly clueless.
You're confused once again. All teams that made Ascension were already picked up. No team was ever picked up because they made Ascension. That is actually the fact.
TTR was so trash that finished 7th / 12th overall in the 2nd split, in front of 5 different teams with orgs.
Try using your brain next time before replying to me, and maybe refresh your use of dictionary (since it appears you have troubles defining simple words)
An opinion based on hypotheticals vs an opinion based on facts... I don't think there's much to "agree to disagree" on. But yeah, sure
Cheers
Do you think TTR would be FA if they qualified for Ascension?
Yes, why not? Why is that so hard to believe for you? Not only that, but you have a similar precedent created: Previously it was said that if you make Challengers you'll definitely be picked up by an Org, and that proved to not be true, since a ton of Orgs left the scene after partnership was initiated. If there was an Org interested in Valorant they would've already picked TTR, but that obviously didn't happen. Social Media influencers had to come to the rescue for some of the teams...
Doesn't look like you live too much in reality bro. You're trying to base your points on wild hypothetical assumptions that do not match the recent reality.
But anyway I'm missing the point, that would be like if Riot owned a team, doesn't make sense
Riot owns all the rights to all teams in regards to VCT partnership. Not sure what's so hard for you to comprehend. You're confused, they are paying each org.
Yeah ofc you need a 6th and stuff I'm saying who has the power to decide what, can 2 players and the coach bench the other 3? What if the team fights and don't reach an agreement on who to bench? What if they are shit all year and for nepotism they agree not to bench anyone?
You're describing issues that are applicable to partnership teams too. Not sure how this is specific to a FA team, or you're simply deluded on how team dynamics are actually working. In majority of teams the coach + some influential core of the players are the always the ones making these type of decisions.
There's no factual data to support your claim. Where did you get this "1000%" from? Pulled it out of your ass?
An orgless team making it to Ascension is only a matter of when, not if. You're kinda clueless
Looks like you don't really know what you're talking about. Everything you're mentioning is a non-issue.
First of all, if you're playing against a team who's paid by Riot are you really not gonna be paranoid about it
All teams are paid by Riot in partnership (base salary players, anything on top of the minimum is provided by Orgs). Are you not aware that Riot pays each team/org currently in partnership, per season?
Second of all who makes the roster changes?
As an FA team you'd still have to abide by the same rules: aka have a coach and substitute player available (if still applicable). In this case, it would be a decision between the players and the coach (similar to how it is done in existing Orgs as well)
Third, you can't do that forever
You don't do it forever. You do it for 2 VCT seasons, since that's how Ascension works.
We could also let the players compete FA and Riot pay them, but that wouldn't really make sense
How does this not make sense? This is the solution, period.
How are you going to create a system of promotion from Premier > VCL > Ascension > VCT if you're automatically telling FA players/teams that they cannot get into VCT ? Then what's the fucking point?
Riot, through its action, is pretty much saying: "You can be the best team in the World in Valorant, but if an Org doesn't pick you up that agrees with our terms, you practically do not exist"
gotcha, then ardiis has great math skills.... also interesting that he didn't say any of that while he was technically in LA, only after, kind of a bitch move saying only after he knows he won't be in Americas next year
He's too overconfident after making one run.
2 runs. Reaching the grand final back-to-back is considered 2 runs, not 1. Making a tournament run does not necessarily mean winning, the term "run" is short from "deep-run"
LA is homeless bro half of them dont have teeth or live in a tent
There's approx 20 mil ppl in the LA Metropolitan area with around 75k homeless population. Your math skills are great
maybe ppl didn't see it in pro play on stream, but I've had someone do that with raze in a ranked match, and get kill with ult
ngl, the only person on hard drugs here seems to be you zen-o. u gonna share?
He did ok on split and ascent. The big difference between Tokyo and now is that in Tokyo EG played more based on pre-prepared strats and he didn't need to do too much mid-rounding. Now his brain power is being used for calling and adapting way more than it was used in Tokyo.
I wonder if you realize how stupid you look/sound with these threads...
you're blind... he does similar things on gun rounds too
liberals created most esports, they didn't just make their way into them. most conservatives have been vehemently against video games for the longest time.
You're confused on how things work in CS. Valve doesn't invest in any specific region. They only host majors, which are generally speaking across the world. Teams/Orgs chose to concentrate in Europe, for better practice and easy access to third party hosted tournaments.
he played kayo only 1 map out of 5 played against loud...
the proof is in the pictures.. they're not original pictures (they've been edited, both the discord and the imessage ones actually are edited), or are you saying you can't tell the difference between edited and non-edited pictures?
the one 7-1 that brazil can be proud of?
haha ;D
Based on your logic, it should've been 2-1 EG since they threw Pearl.
idk why everyone acts so surprised... virtually all statistics showed that EG was the best team of the tournament so far (even though PRX probably played the more attractive Valorant until now)
I don't disagree, read the first part of my response
I doubt we ever argued, but I remember your username as being one of those ppl that keep making threads saying that LOCK//IN is a Masters event which doesn't hold against any logical analysis. That on top of usual EMEA biased takes that are not very good. Maybe not all your takes are idiotic, but that one surely is
you're confused... get out of California more
As someone that has been living in US for the last 12 years (also in cali), many US states (especially in the midwest and south) are shitholes compared to Denmark
Americans on average smoke more than Europeans (be that cigarettes, crack or meth)
msarez usually has idiotic takes, but here he's correct
It was clearly a mistake from PRX players, however the timing that c0m had on the rotation was very fast considering he showed himself in A main only 11 seconds before
NA mfs finally about to get humbled. no more fracture to save y'all 🤣 1 map trick team
All this talk and PRX still lost Ascent
PRX already got 5 on attack on EGs map pick. Definitely looking like a 2-0 is on the cards.
Definitely...
If you're gonna remove Jett's second updraft... why not remove Raze's second satchel?
Also... no deadlock changes? :O
Generally speaking all changes are fine, with the exception of Jett's second updraft removal, which doesn't really make sense.
ScreaM, Ethan and ANGE1 have more trophies & tournament winnings in CS than in Val.
ScreaM was a household name in CS:GO early era, and he definitely has more trophies in CS
ANGE1 was qualifying and playing in S-tier tournaments/Majors since the CS 1.6 days starting with 2007
You don't know what you're talking about
PS: This was meant as a reply to #10
I'm not sure how you'd call him mid, when he managed to show up on the Val scene in Nov 2020, and by mid 2021 was able to tactically outsmart (and beat) the finalists of Champs 2021 (Acend and Gambit).
not the greatest aimer? maybe...
mid? nah, that's an outlandish claim
Most timezones technically "cater" to the other 2-3 quarters of the globe, when it comes to being able to view events FYI. The exact opposite meridians from the source of origin are always "uncatarable" to, while based on population density, some other meridian regions are impacted as well.
Simple terms: Having the events in Spain/CN has no direct benefit than having them in Berlin/Iceland/Tokyo/Los Angeles when it comes to timezone impact on other region.
Sadly, your point really doesn't make any sense, unless you're being subjective to your own preferred regions/meridians
Another example: 12pm Shanghai (the most probable local time when the Grand Final will start) is 9pm in Los Angeles, while it is 6am in Berlin and 5am in London. For the Madrid Masters you'd want to be in Europe or Pacific & China. For the Shanghai Masters you'd want to be in Americas or Pacific & China. Much like every other Masters until now.. 1 region usually gets fucked. It's just how timezones work
People really need to figure out the fact that in an eSports that wants to have tournaments in different regions of the world, there'll be some of them that will be hard to watch live, regardless of how they feel about it. This has been the same in CS as well.... you don't get to watch everything live, its just the way it is
nah, the only one being soft here is you, since the truth hurts your little feelings.
Most eSports have more breaks in between competitions, on top of the fact that not all competitions are mandatory to attend to (hence giving teams the latitude to skip some), while still gaining enough circuit points to attend their respective majors. Even League, the most similar eSports schedule to Valorant, has bigger breaks between splits. That's why League of Legends schedule goes through virtually the full 12 months of the year, there isn't a 4 month off slapped at the end of the season.
At this point I'm not sure if you're doubling down to prove that you got some stupid macho bravado (which clearly you don't since simple facts hurt your feelings), or if you're this much of an idiot to not even be able to tell the truth from simple data sets.
what did nitr0 say that can be considered "shit on Valorant" ? All the stuff that I saw was either positive or neutral (but maybe I'm missing something?)
Athlete work year around
And there's been complaints about burnout and injury proneness from both athletes and coaches, where the respective schedule is crunched (See football/soccer, this is a widely discussed issue for the last few years). Also, your usual athlete is paid way more than your regular esport player, in order to "pay off" that loss of time and burnout.
Workers for business work year around
Complains about burnout and need for more time off exist in this as well, with some regions (parts of Europe) addressing this by offering more PTO and family time.
theres people that work in oil rigs that work all day and put 10x effort that a gamer does bro
These people are also the ones that have the most time off between jobs, working a few months a the time then having time off, to avoid that burnout (even though it is still prevalent). Oil rig workers usually complain about not having enough time to spend with family, but they're offset by the pay. Also, oil rig jobs pay way more than your regular esports salary.
You're only doubling down with stupid takes that underline and prove my point.
Anything else?
wut? you make no sense. it is impossible to have a timezone that caters to all 4 regions, that's just not how things work, geographically speaking.
eg: 12pm Spain = 3am Los Angeles
you need to go back to school
Yep, my approach to the VCT would be similar to yours. And if there's time-related issues, they could still remove the LCQ and simply have Champs be filled by teams based on the circuit points.
Have you ever heard of burnout? It's applicable to any type of job that requires excessive condensation of efforts, mentally speaking, over a period of time. No way you can be this stupid to not understand his point
didn't he prove himself with 100T at international event (Masters) ?
The idea of Kick Off tournament is stupid as hell. Put on top of it that it's a qualifier for Masters is even more stupid. Not sure what the need to replicate LOCK//IN (which was a way to present the partnered teams) in 2024 is..... it makes 0 sense
isn't there an indoor arena next to the Singapore National Stadium?
we are the only reagion that doesn't have a direct acess to any of the franchised teams in Val
You are delusional
There's a decent amount of players, yes. I doubt it's comparable to Europe tho
US: New Orleans, Memphis, St Louis, Birmingham (Alabama)
RO: Bacau, Resita
idk if I'd call him a raze main... it was more out of necessity, cuz TenZ couldn't do it. Phoenix main? sure. Sage main? sure. Skye main? sure
Also, unfortunately, I doubt we'll have the chance to see him again in pro scene any time soon.
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