this is a retarded question tbh, if they were to play tomorrow, val teams would 13-0 cs team in valorant and cs teams would 16-0 teams in cs, maybe they could get some rounds if they troll but if teams played all rounds full focus easy 26-0 and 32-0 no doubts, even if most valorant pros were ex cs players, these are top5 teams and without any practice as a team no chance you even get a round + most val pros were tier5 in cs too
it gets interesting tho if we give time for cs pros to learn valorant, they would probably beat these valorant teams if they had the same knowledge and experience in valorant, they are way more talented players, they are literally the elite among the elite

no, it was 1.1M

he does some weird things when aiming and his mechanics seem so weird too but raw aim I have watched him play dm and he is very good just needs to improve mechanics and crosshair placement imo

they dont lmao, its just classic thing with pros saying the other team is so good to have a good public image, I can asure you if they had to play against and prepare against them they would say internally how shit they are strategically and exploit the shit out of them, same thing with Korea in League, they always say other teams are so good just to fucking shit on them

lmao, I do watch Cned, never said he is bad just said he is more 1 dimensional than other players lol, its something he can improve imo, he doesnt get those worldclass performances if he is not allowed to play a certain way, he has the talent but I think he needs to evolve a bit

same, maybe hire a coach or something so he can teach you ball, you are finished if these are your views on the game, some people are good strategists some are not, maybe you are good kpoper or something, GL!

mf actually said unlike you, like he knows me or anything LMAO, cant really argue with these fanatics blinded by their bias

"Unlike you I actually have competitive coaching/analytical experience in NA so I think I have more of an idea on what I'm talking about." LMAO, probably in tier99, saying you have experience in NA means nothing, literally a pug region where tier2-3 is nonexistent, literally no scene, here is EU even tier5 play somewhat good valorant, NA not even in tier1 so if you are one of the coaches/analyst in those tiers in NA you are doing a terrible job m8, you play like dogs

you are on fucking drugs if you actually think their defaulting is good, also I have experience playing in lower tiers in EU at a much higher level than you probably, saying they are strategically/fundamentally good is shameless + awful defaulting, very important to know the difference between tactically and strategically VERY IMPORTANT THEY ARE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS NOT MANY PROS WILL KNOW THE DIFFERENCE ABOUT THEM so I agree they are very good tactically not strategically, I would even say they are only 2-3 good teams strategically in valorant, the level is so low atm in many aspects of the game

BTW idc what derke thinks 2nd best region is, I rate him as a player nothing else, I am not his fanboy that will think he cant say bullshit, Korea is not 2nd best region lmao, NA and Brazil way better teams and depth also I would expect Derke to say DRX are good, they very similar playstyles

I mean his gf is german and liquid had internal problems, as NA cs player you spend more than 50% of the year in Europe why not just move there if you are good enough?

Is he wrong tho? He isnt questioning the morals behind it afaik, its a fact its easy money, most got signed even before they downloaded the game

• you are biased, you are korean, ofc you are gonna say they are good, you are dog who doesnt understand anything about the game, you are at max gold and korean, you are literally blind if you think drx is good strategically

ALSO HOW CAN YOU SAY THE COULD BE A CLEANER GAMBIT? LOOOL LITERALLY OPPOSITE PLAYSTYLES, SETPLAYS/GIMMICKS MERCHANTS VS CLASSIC CIS HEAVY DEFAULT SLOW PLAYSTYLE, THEY CANT BE A CLEANER GAMBIT LMAO, THE THING ABOUT DRX IS THAT THEY DO THINGS CLEANLY BUT THIS KPOPER PLAYSTYLE DOESNT WORK, THESE DRX PLAYERS WERE TIER99 IN CSGO THEY TRIED TO PLAY LIKE THESE AGAINST EUROPEAN TEAMS AND TEAMS JUST TRIED TO MAKE IT VERY SCRAPPY AND PUG IT OUT AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENED? THEIR PLAYSTYLE DOESNT WORK IF YOUR OPPONENT DECIDES ITS TIME TO PLAY RANKED, ALWAYS 16-0 AGAINST KOREA IN CSGO, SO BAD, DOGS DIDNT LEARN THEIR LESSON TOO, THEY TRY SAME PLAYSTYLE IN VALORANT LOL, NO WONDER THEY ALWAYS LOSE TO NA TEAMS, EVEN NA RANKED HEROES COULD MAKE A TEAM AND BEAT DRX JUST PLAYING LIKE ITS RANKED

"false. anybody above diamond" m8 diamonds and inmortals have no clue about the game, not even radiant ranked heroes, there isnt a rank where people understand start to have deep understanding of the game, this sentence alone tells me you are not very good player, in order to truly have a deep understanding of the game you need to be competing at a somewhat decent tier, ranked players have no fucking clue about the game + " Tarik pointed out how barely seconds after spike was planted DRX had formed a really good triple crossfire" that isnt by definition a gimmick but its not something you do on the moment, they didnt quick think and adapt to that situation to form that crossfire, every single team have set positions for postplants and even more DRX who look after every detail and try to choreograph everything without any adaptation/on the fly thinking, they probably have a shit ton of gimmicks and different types of posplants positions for every possible scenario

simply not true, I can tell you are wood 1 from what you are talking about, you literally prepare posplant positions in theory time, doesnt make drx good strategically, a team that relies on gimmicks + set strats is not good strategically, very good tactically but strategically they dont have the understanding of a t1 team, they will never win anything if they keep up this style, as soon as you disrupt their choreographed they are done, not good enough strategically, very bad defaulting and adapting to teams that force them to play good fundamental valorant, same thing as fnatic but with a bit worse players and even worse fundamentals than fnatic

literally jett op abuser who plays hyper aggressive, he is very 1 dimensional atm compared to other players

no goats fuck it, every1 sucks

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drx aint strategic, they just spam gimmicks no strategy at all, there is a big difference between strategy and tactics, gambit are the best strategically tho

Redgar better IGL than FNS + Derke and Cned shit on tenzedzombie who is not even good nowadays against decent teams, how is drx goat team? the only reason they have been number 1 in their region for so long is because every1 else sucks not because they are good, no wonder you guys cant get past opens even in a tier2 region!

nah, he is insane but not on the level of those 2, not nearly as complete and too 1 demensional sometimes for my liking

whats funny? its common knowledge he is the best itw, sadly he is a 1 man army

still better than any player in FPX will ever be

derke/chronicle best 2 players itw not even close

he said EU not asia

cuz they fucking suck, they all went to valorant lmao

meh, not that big of a difference, EU is still good

EU CS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANY REGION

eu rl is better, the best region historically by far

stax and zest LOL, gimmicks merchants dogshit IGLs, DRX are shit, they play set plays simulator

lol what

saadhak overrated igl tbh, good player but his igling looked pretty mid, loud play very simple valorant

would be a good assistant coach or analyst tbh but still a gimmicks merchant, his teams are glorified drx, same thing with both, they start tournaments looking really good because no1 knows their gimmicks and then fall apart once every1 knows what they do, probably enzo gonna become igl in the future and get an upgrade from boaster, you got alfajer+derke duo and enzo/mistic who are very strong support players but then boaster as IGL KEKW

its clearly redgar lol, there should really be no discussion, he beats fns in everything:

• m3c midrounding better than optic
• better playstyle, they dont just rely on winning their duels
• 10 times more firepower than FNS
• more achievements: EMEA champion, Masters 3 Champion beating FNS team 3-0 and WORLDS finalist

this doesnt make any sense, you clearly dont watch emea vct or anything outside na, how can we say fns mid round calls changed the game? he was playing really poor teams this masters and his team playstyle relies on winning the individual duels there is no backup plan, losing to fnc is suprising? how? fnatic and gambit were the two best teams in emea groups, it was 50/50, they probably shouldnt have lost to g2 but how can you blame them? they had to play 4 out of 5 groups matches in 4 days while other teams studied them and to top that they played a really tiring series against fnatic where they gave everything they had and were 0.02 seconds of qualifying, g2 is still a top team in the world, if you give this much data to a team that of that caliber you are gonna be in a huge disadvantage + not really much time to prepare for any match for gambit

Just two things:

1. We cant say who is better at midrounding at the of the day because we dont have comms but if we take every midrounding decision from optic/m3c redgar is clear of fns lol, m3c midrounding shits on every other team
2. How can you possibly say optic is structured? They are anything but structured, they literally just take fights, common knowledge for any high tier analysts, have you even watched their vods? do you understand what you are watching? I would suggest casual fans like you with gold level understanding of the game to not comment on these things, it makes you look stupid, also technically structured =/= playing good valorant, you can be structured and just rely on duels to win rounds like optic

they arent structured m8, maybe for NA standards which are very poor but they basically just go for duels, if they dont win them they look like shit if they are on point they look great, literally a cointoss

1. FNS cant be first, that spot is reserved for Redgar, his team plays the best valorant itw, insane firepower while Optic just go for duels and fns is a zero to the left individually
2. No way boaster can be top5, gimmick merchant cant call shit
3. NO ANGE1? HOW?

also, how does valorant focus more on adaptation to you? and how does cs focus more on perfection? perfection means no mistakes which is basically what you need in valorant too, you need adaptation in csgo as much as you need in valorant, almost the same with perfection, you need to commit as little mistakes as possible in both games

not really true tbh, high level cs adaptation is key to sucess, unlike many who dont know shit about cs and think every1 does the same strats every single time and it is about doing it the best you can, it is not true, there is a lot of top teams with different playstyles (aggro/slow, aggro awpers/passive awpers, heroic weird gambling style, virtuspro cancer style) and you still need to adapt in every map you play depending on how enemies are approaching map control and other things, in the macro game almost the same general concepts apply to both games, the only thing that changes is utility
also in valorant you also need perfection lol, look at gambit play, literally perfect defaulting/adaptation/mid rounding/decision making, they play a simple game, they dont have crazy gimmicks like fnatic/drx but are fundamentally close to perfection

tldr: bullshit, adaptation is key/repetition doesnt even make sense lol, how does cs require repetition when a strat stops being meta in 2 weeks and you need to adapt already

maybe they should switch derke and alfajer roles if derke doesnt adapt well to chamber, alfajer is easily top3 in emea any sentinel

C9 2-0 EG
NRG 2-0 TSM

M3C 1-2 GLD
G2 2-1 FKS

hopefully they can stay in gambit if not it will be a bloodbath to sign them

agree but I think main reason EU is strong is quality of players not so much that there is no country based qualifiers

lmao what, why would you need stellar to igl and zander to midround call? just have one as igl and thats it lol, zander igl and mitch sentinel, stellar is good but there are better players 100% + dont need 2 igls

so was derke, he was a big talent in csgo and had been destroying CIS scene for months, also brave was a well known CIS player too

neither of them are unknown lol, derke wasnt unknown either, if you follow the scene the only one that was somewhat unknown was magnum but still was doing good in tier2 he wasnt full random

that was 2 months ago lol also their comp is full troll, would wait for next map to see if they are running dogshit comps on all maps or just this one

stfu

how is he a good analyst lol, he is clueless

1. They wont change slots because of 1 tournament
2. Slots are decided before the start of the year
3. Winner of last Masters before Champions doesnt get a direct invite to Champions anymore (kinda dumb if you ask me ngl)