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| Last post: | August 7, 2025 at 12:58 PM |
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boom only lost to sanprisa lmfao, there is no logical reason to say that spg was just magically underperforming in a grand finals, and if they do thats a knock on them, because they will likely continue to perform worse against big competition
boom and spg are not that far apart, just delusion
anyone who only comes online to flame flor has some weird fetish lmfao
obviously, kaajak snaked them so their slot is a waste anyways
soulcas is a decent initiator, nice tech, but extremely low iq, and his aim is streaky so nah..
avova is also kinda mid but hype and molsi havent played franchising yet so im curious to see how they adjust
bottom line is soulcas has already proven hes bad, whereas the rest of apeks isnt 100% ass
flor is gonna perform but they will still finish winless
avova and molsi could be good, soulcas is ass, kaajak is good
apeks didnt improve their ascension roster tho, so theyre definitely last place
gentle mates werent even last place in 2024 and had the biggest upgrade in the offseason so this is delusional, apeks is very clearly the worst roster, every bad emea team got better while the ascended team arguably got worse
apeks should be relgated after split 1 lol
t2 is dying because orgs overspent early, leading people to believe that t2 can be a career 4 years into the scene
ill explain this to you in the simplest terms, these guys like dapr, wedid are going to expect livable salaries but riot does not want these players in tier 2 anymore, its just not profitable for anyone..
these guys were complaining about making 3k a month in tier 2, what im trying to explain is pretty objective, tier 2 should only be for up and comers, and disguised came out and said ascension contenders are paying upwards of 8k..
so if youre not competing for ascension, and youre an older gentleman and need to provide, its time for u to get a job because it aint happening lol
mfs are expecting to make a living off of being okay at video games lmfaoooo entitled ass mfs
they wont be getting shit from riot lol
just be realistic and ask for riot to give vcl teams sprays in game so teams can raise an extra US$10k + a year for participating
how would it be the last generation of latam or sa players when there are orgs waiting for these kids to turn 18 lol
people just look at csgo and compare a 4 year old t2 scene to a 20 year old t2 scene
the only reply to the first two paragraphs is that welcome to the world, this is how life works lol, people go into debt to study at university, but you want me to believe that its too unreasonable for a mf sitting infront of a desk for 16 hours a day to make less than educated teachers or some shit lol
according to everyone tier 2 is already dead, yet every year more and more tier 2 talent is making it to tier 1 lmfaooo, if you think tier 2 is dead go check out turkey..
it is literally sustainable, imagine thinking that riot that has built the most sustainable and healthy esports scene with league needs to listen to random americans with no education about finances.. anyways what youre saying and asking for wont happen because from riots perspective t2 is producing talent which is all that matters lol
tsm are very big, they just mismanaged their money and lost huge on a big deal, but thats not on riot. they are objectively one of the biggest orgs in the world, if they cant afford to have 5 pros in tier 2 which would be pennies on their books compared to their other esports teams its not a riot issue
brazil and latam in this last summer has produced more talent than they have in any year since 2021 lol, which is the role of tier 2 so how is it dead
just buy a used suzuki swift if ur poor
caring about which car u drive is for people who have 50k+ in the bank or family people
yeah but from my understanding they will be representing, i dont think its gonna be 4 na teams
i disagree, 18-21 year olds that live with their parents dont really need some lucrative money, tier 2 was just way overpaid for a while lol so now u got a bunch of people who arent good enough for tier 1 that are entitled to making more than 30k a year for playing video games
why is the pressure on riot to go into the negative for tier 2 when massive orgs like tsm are out there dodging expenses lmfao
when u stan happy meal man, anyone can hit
it not aligning with riots core audience is probably the only reason riot is interested tho
the way to add new viewers isnt a riot created wc, its outsourcing it purely to bring more eyes to the vct circuit
the other thing is a world cup in any sport will get more viewers for the most part because it attracts viewers who are there just to support america for example, instead of people there to support nrg
the ultimate goal of any sports is to market their streaming or tv rights to advertisers/streaming platforms
riot did this with league (they also have chinese billionaires tbf)
mith doesnt matter to riot, to save t2 riot needs to start getting proper tier 1 investment
if the tier 1 scene isnt getting huge numbers (even if its still losing money) there is no reason to even care about t2 yet from riots standpoint
theres still loads of new talent coming in every year with a broke tier 2 anyways
this is all to say tier 1 is more important which is obvious, but its also why franchising was important
riot needs to put these mfs to work and start advertising better so they can sell tv/streaming rights then fund t2 and the scene becomes self sustaining
ewc helps with that sadly
2022 Champions LOUD - lost their two best players from the previous event, right before aspas and less ascended, if they had remained, they probably would have won every event until masters shanghai
2023 Champions EG - pretty straightforward, was the perfect system and mesh of players, demon1 had everything he needed to shine in a system
Interchangeable - both would have dominated the year after easily
2023 FNC - back to back, but they lost in the server room, and barely beat 2022 LOUD without their two best players (sacy, pancada)
2024 Champions EDG - their run was extremely impressive, I feel like GEN.G can be here, it just depends on how you view it. I'm just going by best rosters built, and to me the EDG roster is more stacked than gen.g
2022 Optic - top 3 at every event, but would probably not have dominated into 2023 even if they stayed together. still one of the best rosters made, no weak spots
HM: 2024 Gen.G, 2024 SEN, 2024 Heretics, 2021 Gambit
heretics is unironically 5th if you just compare starting 5s, but they didnt win shit so smh
n1cf list is garbage lol
brotha does not watch emea because why is boo ahead of saadhak or boaster in terms of calling
shouldve been sscary but frost has a fetish for korean boys
kadavra is top 2 smokes lol get ruxic and sayf out of there
ur rank says diamond but ur hidden elo is gold so its hard to find matches
whats more impressive acend winning champions vs heavy favorites gambit after playing the harder bracket or fnatic dominating teams with subs/visa issues?
its not about which team dominated more, but which trophy lift means more
game knowledge progresses like that
if you took the eg 2023 roster, only gave them 2021 iceland knowledge and tech theyd get stomped by sentinels lol
the ONLY team that could withstand the test of time is champions loud because they almost reverse swept the best team assembled yet with rookies
im just discussing which trophy is most valuable, because discussing which teams are better is pretty much irrelevant
you could do that
LOUD is probably the only team in vct short history that would have won the next few events had they stuck together
i dont think you can say that for any other team
fluke tournaments will be lower sorry copers
1/2 EDG - 2024 Champs - no question the best two events
1/2 EG - 2023 Champs - peak
3 LOUD - 2022 Champions.- peak
4/5 Sentinels - 2024 Madrid.- people complain about lack of qualifiers, but if you compare sentinels path to winning to gen.gs the games played are almost identical, plus no 100t
4/5 Gen.G - 2024 Shanghai - good event but 100t (the weakest top 4 teams in a while) holding it slightly behind madrid
6 FPX - 2022 Copenhagen - underrated event, almost every team that attended was in their prime here
6 Acend - 2021 Champions - underrated event, acend had a actual hard run in hindsight, the qualifier controversy is way overblown, they won the rematch dominantly
8/9 FNC - 2023 LOCK//IN - just the nature of the event makes me want to put it lower than a champions event, 32 teams, start of franchising.. still peak finals tho
8/9 FNC - 2023 Tokyo - Demon1 visa issues, prx sub hold this back, still peak
10 Gambit - 2021 Berlin - very good event, doesnt belong near any of fnatics trophies though
11/12 Optic - 2022 Iceland - zeta was top 3, loud was together for a month, the best european team wasnt allowed to attend, DRX is the only elite team in their prime they beat - peak
11/12 Sentinels - 2021 Iceland - extremely entertaining, there are less asterisks compared to 2022 iceland, but sadly not sure if its enough to put it definitively over 2022 iceland - peak
100t was in the top 4 lol
Acend champs should be 9th and move optic down
also 2024 and 2023 champs are objectively the most valuable events yet, 2022 champs probably a few spots lower
brotha what r u tryna say???
reduxx replacing zellsis has nothing to do with the fact that this team would contend in t2 lol
ur a asuna fangirl which is okay but when you couple that with navi meatrider u got a problem
because its a troll agent
astra at her peak was far more dominant, neon is just stupid lol
you're just jumping on a valorant hate bandwagon bc its popular, if influencers said the game was good youd be doing the opposite
in no world is marvel rivals going to kill valorant lol
also, you dont understand game balance, overwatch devs go the route of correcting everything and it breaks the game more, riot is usually spot on with its tweaks lmfao
chamber was fixed in like 7 months chill lol
neon is stupid, it really isnt gamebreaking, yall just watch clips and dont play at the highest level
run and gun hasnt been majorly op since zombs was playing lol
replay system in valorant is hard for obvious reasons but hurr durr
athan wasnt even good lol
vlr is just a echo chamber so whatever catches on just becomes the consensus, even if theres no reasoning
talon hater + 100t fan + navi delusion
pick a struggle bro
its a pretty weird list,
sacy was better at champs vs less, starxo and zeek were around the same level of cned in the champs run unless this list is only going by kills
not terribly surprised tbh
hes okay at kay/o but not much else
as a 100t fan, asuna hasnt fucked my mom hes just been leeching off my favorite org for way too long
atleast he reps a champs team tho
dorts nrg invests millions to make 0 events
zekken on jett btw
lmfaoooooooo
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