kru lost a map to them and kru hasnt dropped a map to anyone else but them , they are a very solid set of 5 players they just dont work well together for whatever reason and if something clicks there is a very real possibility for a upset , people said the same thing about c9 and oxy after they lost to mibr and now look at them they are pretty much a shoe in for play offs , all of americas is insane just different levels of insane ,put the worst americas team in any other region and they win the region or at minimum qualify through to every international event