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Tthis guys are just a bunch of Sen haters who can't prove the opposite you stated.

People also doesn't understand that in franchising the teams/orgs secure a spot which guarantees all kind of stability in the scene without necessarily being competitive. You run the business with viewers and sponsorship.

Man i swear in this thread i found the most stupid people in vlr. Still doesn't know how business works lmao.

You can't criticise companies for doing something for profit? It's fine for companies to use slave labour since it's for profit

What the hell does the second statement have to do with anything said above? who's supporting slave labour here?

A company in essence works in order to make profit. Why people has too much trouble understanding this? i'm not saying it's good or bad, it's by definition.

edit: typo

You never mentioned Riot, you were just shitting on Sentinels.

Also, you realize that orgs are companies, who btw make money and do business? Is it really a dumb decision to bring people who contribute to that?

Esports isn't the beautiful fairy tale people think just for being games.

I HECKING LOVE BRAZIL

fuck, i guess imma head out

Man, i don't know how to put this but Riot choose them.
Why people keeps blaming orgs.

Or it's bait?

Well, how about people choose what they want?

At the beginning will be kinda wild (too much roster movement, people being mad about teams/players), so people will have a "bad" perception of it.

At mid term, will be good (it usually is when this kind of systems are implemented).

At long term, time will tell. Surely will work, and if there are teams that just try to milk the shit out having the spot, i hope Riot does something in that cases.

Man, franchising applies to whatever game exists. Of course it can be compared with LoL, with more reason considering is the same company. The principle is the same.

Also if you want to compare it with a FPS game, Overwatch works with franchising too (as far as i know). And well, that should be enough said to prove that franchising isn't the panacea of esports.

Well, they can if they got scouted. I kinda understand you because maybe franchising scares people sometimes with the "pay to be a part of the elite" concept, but at the end it isn't that black and white.

We have to wait and see what happens.

i think i will wait to see how a part of the 3rd point you mention develops in reality. Maybe my vision is influenced by the NA LoL scene, where orgs looks like capable of assemble good rosters, and sometimes they do in paper, but the level it's kinda low. I mean how many years Golden Guardians have been milking the system. Heck, SK and BDS in EU aren't that behind too.

My point is that franchising doesn't garantize good level. I can't see that as a point (not saying you're wrong, but i've read it in different threads. People think that franchising will make the game more competitive).

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I think there's space for everything. I actually don't like that much because there are some examples in LoL where it looks like that some teams don't give a fuck about being competitive and they just secure their spot bEcAuSe bUsiNeSs aNd mOneY (i might be totally wrong).

But come on, maybe this won't end like LoL and teams will stay competitive and will assemble good rosters, who knows.

lmao too soon maybe

In fact it isn't hard to understand, maybe for me it's easy because i knew it how it works before (from LoL).

But with all the information out there, those who are interested in the esports scene and doesn't know how it works, it's just because they are lazy or don't want to read.

"i don't know how franchise works", episode 283

I mean i like the project Carlos has built over the years and i applaud him, but i think people prefer to evade the "get ready to get exposed for something at any time" situation.

With Nadeshot aboard, anything can happen. I know he doesn't make the moves, but he looks like the one who can hit the table and say "i want this mf to win matches"

lmao i love this answers

A company trying to profit? oh no...
Franchising is like this. And this always happens the first days after the announcement. Roster moves, teams disbanding, it's natural in this kind of process, which makes look kinda bad, but then all pieces fall into place and everything goes back to normal like nothing happened.

Trust me, a lot of people share your way of thinking (including myself), but at the end of the day this is a business.
The thing with this model is that it works for them. It always have since they implemented in LoL some years ago.

Thanks for this my guy

This is a pretty good idea. Thanks! Maybe in a near future this thread (and the ones from the other regions) could be pinned.

Great! Thanks

At the end, there's people who support orgs and people who supports players. This exact point in time is turbulent so there's a lot of doubt, hate, insults to riot etc.

Indeed, there's a chance for some orgs to pick a full team or just some players.

Yeah lul

As far as i understand, that will be every two years, i might be wrong.

Similar to this year's VCT EMEA Promotion, each region will have its own promotional tournament. Each champion of the 21 leagues will be funneled into a Challengers Ascension tournament, where teams will fight for a two-year promotion to their continent's international league, also receiving similar benefits to partnered teams and an equal chance to reach Masters and Champions.

https://www.vlr.gg/141286/vct-2023-details-and-30-team-kickoff-tournament-announced

I dont get why people seems so shocked about teams disbanding and good players being free agents.

This is how franchising looks when it starts. Teams will decide if they want to be competitive (or not) and will try to get those good players to reinforce their rosters, but that's also not guaranteed.

I wish teams take this serious and put some good rosters in competition.
There are examples on LoL of how teams just play safe with their spot secured in franchising, not necessarily having a competitive team.

To be honest, that isn't guaranteed. I think we all want a competitive league, but the franchising reality has already gave us examples of how some teams work, more at #17

Remember that franchising doesn't mean that all teams will be elite. I know there are a lot of good players that will be free agents now, but teams have their spots secured –at least for some time–.

At the end of the day, it's business. Just look how Golden Guardians do in NA or SK /BDS in EU (at LoL)

Thanks!

Maybe

So it begins

Money, long-term project, etc

I guess at least one of the spaniard orgs will bring in players from Guild or FPX

Shitty times

I pictured that, so i gave 6/8

Maybe i still live on the past, but isn't EG a big (or maybe one of the biggest) orgs of NA? At least they were in the past. The only "recent" thing i know about them is that they have a partnership with Wolverhampton Wanderers FC.

NRG for me was a question mark, but as far as i read, they have a lot of financial investment.

Yeah, at the end, new generations learn a lot by themselves and not only at schools, especially when it's about subjects people like (in this case, gaming) and also after being active consumers of that "world"

indeed, but that doesn't apply everywhere. Not every country/region has the same educational focus in their programs about learning foreign languages. Latam can be an example of it.

in a world without language barrier, it would be really cool to see how some rosters could work with the best of each region

There are bigger orgs, or at least more interested at investing in Valorant

Softies, everything becomes drama in that scene?

master baiterr

Yeah people are acting like this is sitll in play. The orgs must be confirmed already and the only thing to do now is wait for the announcement.

Money. Franchising isn't about level

Thoughts? you just hate keznit
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