edg has the same players under contract, but i think only team with all 5 being active

say the word :P

poo pee feet

523/600!!!

turkey is number 2 us state behind california fr

Please lose so that karmine gets denied from champs ty <3

Bring sayf to champs instead of frauds + engh trying to deadlift the team

🎣

geng

heretics

Also to be fair 2022 champs had the most hype lineup of teams in top 8 org wise

Optic, loud, fnatic, fpx, xset (<3), liquid, leviatan, drx

Like any crowd would pop the fuck off for all those games but yea istanbul was a goated place to have champs

eg 2023 never getting to defend their crown is a crime against humanity please kick eg out of vct and put ludwig org in because he would spend big money

i cried when sen won madrid i been watching them since 2021 bro i am on your side

but

texture > zekken
johnqt < meteor (not IGL wise)
tenz >> karon
zellsis >> munchkin (not IGL wise)
sacy < lakia

johnqt IGL >>>>>>>>>>>>> munchkin IGL

its a lot closer than you're making it out to be all of GenG is so cracked

14 yr old sen fans 🤝 excuses

just accept that geng better rn bro its not that hard

root for your own team instead of bringing others down

Almost at 500!!

sacy tendulkar

n0xusn0m0d

I literally said I wasn't comparing IGLs because they are absolutely the most important part of a team because of their calling, and that's an entirely different skillset

But conparing value that someone brings to a team can be done with an Aspas vs Alfa and IMO i would rather have Aspas than alfa

Fns aura clears but yeah cook

evil geniuses is guaranteed out of playoffs after they lost to 100T last week

what happened is potter got given a bunch of T2 talent + Jawg and Derrek and got told to work another miracle

Ok and Aspas is the best out of all of those players

I won't compare IGLs because that's very subjective but I would rather have Aspas on my team than anyone else on that list.

Read jujutsu kaisen if you want to get bored of every new chapter being the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again

Listen I get that Chronicle has 3 trophies n all, and that he is a very good player, but Aspas is on a different level than him, and everyone else in the world

Aspas has the trophy (2022 champs), and has literally been between arguably the best player in the world to clearly the best player in the world for the past 3 YEARS IN A ROW. DO WE REALIZE HOW INSANE THAT IS??

yay and demon1's peaks were literally on PAR with this guy, and they lasted a THIRD of what he's done, and he has an entire career ahead of him? And now LEV looks like (arguably) a Top 3/4 team in the world (GenG, Heretics, Sen if you're feeling it) with him literally carrying every. single. game.

I can appreciate that Chronicle was a part of 2 very good teams in Gambit and Fnatic but man... Aspas is on another level entirely imo

anyone calling Chronicle/Tenz the GOAT of valorant is just trophy washing and ignoring the king

(I am NA fanboy, this thread is supposed to be entirely unbiased)

So Sacy > Chronicle All time?

Chronicle won 2021 masters and 2023 masters which = Sacy's 2022 champs, and single elim lock in << Masters 2024

So Sacy > chronicle?

457/500 we got this

0/8

isnt tier 3 just premier now

bro is going to join a gang of friends and frolick into t2 NA

Texas Roadhouse Server team

who is saying potter is getting carried

0/8

if t1 REALLY wanted to throw money at the wall they buy out old DRX no?

like saya and co just didnt work what if they just get drx back

i like platchat because sliggy and sean gares make me happy inside

everyone else is for comedic benefit and the sooner people realize this the better

I just made the connection with the 6 teams that the format is literally just the NFL format (from when it was good and not goodell moneygrubbing for more games)

2 byes for top 2 in the region vs 2 byes for top 2 in AFC/NFC
6 teams in playoffs for both
3 v 6, 4 v 5 for both
the only difference is the double elim part of the bracket, which comes out of necessity to determine a 3rd seed
notice how there was no double elim for Madrid, when all we needed was 2 teams. For comparison: Sen vs NRG and EG vs Loud were in the Divisional Round part of the bracket, and Sen vs Loud was the Conference Finals part of the bracket

If Riot is trying to emulate the NFL in their formatting, they're being extremely braindead imo

the NFL is scheduled as single elim because of the fact that it is so ridiculously deep strategically and the sport as a whole is incredibly taxing on both player's bodies and minds, and they literally could not play more than 1 game a week without risk of serious injuries...

There's a reason that sports that are much less taxing: Basketball, for example, have systems in their playoffs to ensure that the BEST team goes through.

I think this explains a lot about the mentality of Riot and why their schedules are so shit if they're taking the NFL as a format to base theirs off of, as TBH the NFL's formats are not good, but it works for the NFL because everyone understands that there's no WAY teams could play more than once a week. People can and do absolutely play valorant as constantly as, basketball for example.

I don't think there's a solid reason for keeping the format in the single elim BS right now that swaps over to double elim, so hopefully this format is a growing pain of getting the league to 12 total teams, and we are going to see a 8 team double elim bracket next year, which fits in standard with all international events, and has been proven to be loved by everyone involved

were over using this word for 100T, they trult just arent that good and even in stage 1 they had a linsanity run. Im not gonna say Sen was " Burntout " but I think americas just had the read on them and they just didnt have enough time to come up with new comps and etc.

The reason why GenG didnt expereince anything like Sen is because look who theyre playing post shanghai.... They played T1, Bleed and GE..... and you wonder why they didnt expereince anything remotely close.... and everyone with a brain knows as a whole 1-11 that americas are better then 1-11 in Pacific.

how you bumping your own thread with 0 responses with no shame

you are very creative!

is your original vlr thread idea for a new team

+jawgemo
+potter
+demon1

in which case you are especially creative and original🥰🥰🥰

2022 champs:

Optic
Loud
Drx
Fpx
Xset
Fnatic
Prx

All legitimate contenders

2023 champs:
Prx
Edg
Eg
Fnatic
Nrg
Navi
Loud
Drx

Were all considered contenders

i dont get it

CHIPI 💥💯🔊 CHIPI👍🥰🤪😋 CHAPA 💗💖🤪😋🔊 CHAPA 💯🥰👌💙 DUBI 🦄✨🧨💗😍 DUBI 😍😍😍🔊💯✨💖💖 DABA 👍💋🔊🤯🎉 DABA 🧨💗💖💖💙 MAGICÒ MÍ 🙋‍♂️💖💖💗🧨 DUBI 💙💙🎉🎉🦄 DUBI BOOM 🧨💥🧨 BOOM 🧨💥🧨 BOOM 🧨💥🧨 BOOM🧨💥🧨

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/f1fe2055 HELP THE COPE IS TAKING ME OVER

first babysasuke W ever?

RDC is always a banger

I used to watch him then his content just became very annoying to watch, idk why but personally I don't like his videos anymore

not a diss to him though his content looks quite nice just not for me

I think India is confirmed hosting one in the next 2 years right? (Heard rumors somewhere)
Probably won't be 2025 though cuz of Champs Seoul + Shanghai
sooo

Masters 1: LATAM somewhere, only not Mexico because of Ascension happening there

Masters 2: reykjavik (AWWW yeah we are back baby) or London/EU city

Champs: NYC/Boston (PLEASE I NEED EAST COAST REP I JUST WANT TO GO TO A GAME) stadiums for Boston could be TD Garden for Top 4 (cuz hard to book), and the arena that they did the Boston Major in CS in when C9 beat Faze? Idk NYC places but there's gotta be a ton

Listen Navi is going to be so back bro i swear just wait theyre going to fry i swear just wait theyre so back

Rest of list yeah cook

Maybe G2 for KRU because keznit my king and i have a hating G2 fetish but thats entirely bias

GenG is absolutely NOT peaking right now

Secret yeah, but primmie diff

Single elim backet with horrible schedule for teams vs 1 team can't attend and another team has subs

Pearl 2022, Abyss 2024

2022 first masters >>>> 2021 champs
2023 lock//in is worse than champs because franchised made many good team reset their whole rosters
2024 madrid is worse than champs 23 because of the top 4 teams at champs all 4 of them were completely different teams, or were not at the event because they weren't good enough

True primmie the goat primmie going to win champs 24 governor going to go from T2 na to best team itw just watch

Teams being miles above their competition is not their fault and I don't rank events lower bc of that

If a region sent their best teams then FNC and EG being cracked should not diminish their trophies

I think I'll probably rate it higher than both Masters this year, because it's now (supposed to be) the 4 BEST teams from the region, rather than the 3 Best teams + a team that was in form for 2 weeks

When I rank trophy wins I rate them by difficulty, which is why I rated champs as = to masters

If you want to rate players by who made the most then 100% champs > masters