i hate that they are breaking up OPTC and FPX. such successful rosters getting torn apart just bc of this dumb franchising thing.

TSM out, potentially NRG or SEN?

franchising is ruining all of these amazing rosters lets be real here. breaking up the most successful roster in NA as well as many others. NA will not be getting very far at any international LANs this year imo and it'll just be the same every year after that.

theyve got the most viewership this year as well

if you think OPTC is playing T2 and missing the kickoff tournament, you are crazy.

love this support from BR, great region :D

OPTC WON M2. BUT YOU SAY ITS A FLUKE. THEY ARE WINNERS THOUGHT ACCORDING TO YOUR DICTIONARY NO? NOW WHAT? bros contradicting themself every two seconds.

OPTC vs DRX & XSET vs FPX

this could mean a million things lmao not just TSM yay.

none of those. 5NA/3BR/2LATAM most likely. highly doubt FAZE or EG, guard only have potential because they are rich.

OpTic is not skipping the BR kickoff tournament for T2 brotha

oh man if failing to win is bad that must mean every team in the world is bad except LOUD right? since if OPTC wins its a fluke so surely thats your logic correct? bro is missing a part of the brain or smth.

bro im sorry but if you keep discrediting optic, then i dont know what to say. you people hate on OPTC and when they win, its a fluke, win they lose, its embarrassing. what do you want from them? even if they won this champs, you would have said “fluke.” theres no argument here, you are simply discrediting the team and guess what? at the end of the day it doesnt matter bc they are winning, even if it may not be first.

they arent the best, they are top 2. the numbers show that.

you aren’t discrediting them but you say LOUD got lucky? you, my friend, need to take a peek at LOUD’s games because there was little luck that played into them winning.

agree with Mjtchell.

im sorry what? how is pushing LOUD to OT in two of LOUD’s picks and dominating in bind falling short? you cant win every game you play. LOUD had the momentum going, didnt drop any maps the entire tournament, only against OpTic previously. LOUD had a HUGE advantage, 2 bans banning OpTic’s greatest maps and first pick. they have had the most consistent AND successful year. M1 was not a fluke, especially when you win lowers and grands 3-0. there is always improvement to be made but calling a roster who placed top 3 in every single international this year is phenomenal, something no other roster has done yet. consistency is key, they just need to push a tiny bit more for first. bro called OpTic (average 2nd place at internationals this year) embarrassing…. what does that mean for all the other teams then?? they garbage? most definitely not.

we (speaking for 90% of OpTic fans) do not claim this person 😭

agreed!

stats dont mean everything little bro i hate to break it to you.

would be hard to do imo but you never know

george geddes on twitter little bro

bro won champs and thinks its over for everyone else. teams can improve and teams can fall, the meta is always changing. LOUD wont be #1 for long.

never said it was BR or LATAMs fault, dont put words in my mouth. i think KR having 5 spots is too much + T1. true NA teams only get 4 spots, that basically means only C9, TSM, 100T, and one more. hate to say it but this isnt looking too good for NA.

NA deserves 6, T1 literally takes one away giving NA 4 slots and they should be in KR (5 slots, dont deserve that many) instead.

NA deserves 6- only reasoning here is T1 basically takes one away giving NA 4 real spots. T1 should be a part of KR (5 slots, way more than they should get imo).

ridiculous since KR already has 5, this gives them 6. T1 shouldve been part of KR.

many USA teams probably going to make it big through the “Asencion” thing anyways yea?

i’m sorry but XSET managed to take down previous M1 and M2 winner, don’t underestimate them.

^the duality of man

NA = USA, Europe = more than one country, not even debatable. if you wanna talk, lets talk, at the most recent champs ‘22, highest NA placed 2nd while highest EU placed 4th. lets not compare these two regions bc in the end, BR is superior :)

not comparable, NA is just the USA & Canada while EMEA is multiple countries of Europe, Middle East, and Africa. you are too desperate honestly and its funny.

guard rich asf 20%

its about money i believe. really hoping optic make it through though, they truly deserve it

not confirmed by anyone, and is completely unrelated the getting 2nd place. they are top 2 in the world rn but the reason they may not make franchising is because the org is not as rich as others. i genuinely don’t see how this is so funny but alr.

c9 & tsm almost 100%

T1 APAC no?

marved canadian

the thing is his stats weren't even bad, just on kayo he couldn't do as well. marved and vic both gotta work a bit more on that but overall victor looks good on duelist. he just isn't getting an absurd amount of frags.

OpTic has got 3 strong maps (Pearl, Fracture, Bind). Icebox wasn't played much and they nearly beat LOUD on ascent which is very impressive. their breeze got better against DRX and there was some improvement against LOUD to, they just threw away the lead. Haven looked good before the LOUD match, now i'm not so sure. I think they could easily solidify Breeze and Icebox, just need to work more on Haven and Ascent.

yeah that's what i meant since vic and austin are a package

true, but then you would have to count the amount from first champs too which might change some stuff up

agree with all + PRX not making it out of groups

B & D Tier Grand Final lmfao they had to have been trolling no? OpTic and LOUD S/A Tier for sure

tbh, i think his only problem is overheating or pushing angles (on DEF) that he probably shouldn't. those are easy fixes though so i don't see it being a huge issue.

honestly i thought victor did a really great job on duelist (phoenix, jett) this event and he only got a little off on kayo. he had great performance and impact and im positive he has great chemistry with the team. im almost certain that theres no way OpTic would drop victor in the first place and not without dropping crashies too anyways.

i don't understand the point of these posts. comparing just championships doesn't define an entire region.

OPTC, then LOUD, then FPX, maybe SEN

crashies and victor are a pretty insane duo

victor showed up this event, especially on duelist role. theres no way they drop only victor (if they even drop anyone) because 1. vic and crashies are a package 2. xset is not giving up their star player, otherwise they are out (cryo and bcj cannot carry) 3. this is a team game and is built off of team chemistry, adding a good flex won't make a team significantly better.

edit: LOUD is not a super team, they just work hard and put in the effort and time to get this good. it's not a magical thing.