if it happens i will post ass!!!

no.

they are shooting back its just fnc better strats

accept that chronicle is your owner sadly

Boaster is the best igl in the world.LOCK//IN doesnt prove shit, but he WILL prove it in coming tournaments. This is the beginning of an era.

no lol

just imagine spunj and machine casting this shit MY GOD

A good amt of you guys actually came through. Guess I was wrong. Maybe you guys do make a decent crowd (sometimes) ¯_(ツ)_/¯

@MODS

CHRONICLE MY FUCKING KING

because we've seen it happen when they play individually. These do not hold much water but 10mans with Valorant and champions Q(i know fuck all about LoL but these girls should ideally be playing in these if they aren't dead,sadly couldn't find records,searched for way too long) and their performances on mixed teams all contribute to this notion. Sarah has been had a good track record in mixed pug teams(she's played as a sub on t2 team even) and its not far out of the realm of reason to postulate that they'd do AT LEAST decent in a t2 team.

An assumption that an individual would do well in a higher tier league so long as he does not seem to be outclassed in a lower tier one is a valid assumption that requires backing proof, not an incorrect one, and there exists multiple examples of players being moved up tiers and still performing well.

changed it (they're by no means exceptional wrong word choice) but point still stands. these players wouldn't simply be outclassed in a mixed team

exceptional decent individuals on absolutely dogshit teams, somewhat constrained there by gender. kinda revolves around to my main point really. We will see t1/t2 individuals soon, but t1/t2 fe teams maybe not so soon. It is entirely possible tho. That is all. Also kinda doesn't help that the LoL community is the weirdest of them all

G2 HeL, caltys (plays for G2 HeL)
Soondangmoo

multiple women have made to challenger/ are consistently challenger mr laurus.

She's subhuman trash. Stop giving her every breath attention

AoT 🤝game of thrones

genetics do matter, but in the end are just as arbitrary as any other factor. Bypassing the problems genetics pose is pretty easy. People who claim they don't matter at all are kinda incorrect.

The entire reason this community exists,and the entire point of all threads is speculation, and saying we can't speculate/theorize about female teams is kinda dumb. No one's laying down rules or giving instructions. It's simply speculation, as we do to any other team, and any other player.

i would love to hear a concise take that summarises all your points mr laurus(getting tired of reading your disjointed ones). also read reference material, agree or disagree.

only valid take

that's crazy

kp.....rayse...tbh i rarely bring it up cause i dont really like shitting on these players to prove a point which is kinda in support of them, but it is kinda evidence tbh.

LMFAO MY BAD

tbh i kinda just want a ref to link anytime someone brings shit up

This debate comes up way too often, and i've sort of reached a conclusion ( i think)

• is the path to the top for women constrained by some mix of biological factors? Kinda, maybe, but not really.
• Will there ever be a semi- equal distribution (55/45,60/40) of male and female competitors at the top? No. However,
• Will we ever see women in the top .01% of valorant/any competitive video games? idk. If the top reps keep improving as they are, then yes. If not, then no. the major point is that IT IS DOABLE.

MAJOR REFERENCE : read my conversation with Olofboost in this thread https://www.vlr.gg/post/1762940/game-changers-teams. It addresses the crux of the matter/most key issues i think

I also want all your takes on the issue concisely written in this thread if possible, so it can be used as a future reference, as this debate is far too long to constantly rehave anytime female players are brought up.

NOTE: Keep your sentiments away from this thread pls, this thread is simply focusing on the difference between male and female players, nothing more.
READ THE REFERENCE PLS

i had an entire thread explaining this but mods kinda deleted it, but basically ye, even the reaction time diff matters WAY less than most people think it does.

there are good trans players, and there are bad ones. annieDro was mid, katie had played cs before on semi-pro teams (still does), bob had competed on an arguably t1 team at one point, and flor is just a good player idk. people trying to taking away from their skill by saying "gender diff" is weird.
There are a lot of bad trans players in the scene.

its cause the women who DO enjoy that are being oppressed (overused word I KNOW) by the general gaming community. There ARE female players who want to be exceptional at video games, and creating a safer haven for them to develop is fine and good and ok

ye atm i'd have to agree too. in the future perhaps tho, perhaps.

first off the misogyny is chess is WAYYY more than in esports lol
secondly i agree with your take that the avg. woman are simply just less competitive (you have age-old social contructs to blame for that) , and that is the cogent reason why we will most likely never see a full 50/50 population split of the 1% any time soon.
The only take i object to in this entire arg is people saying it is simply impossible for women to reach that 1%, which is fucking dumb.

sarah, noia, meL(as player NOT as igl) are all good enough as individuals to be t2.i've been watching tarik 10s (ik 10s<<<<<<< a real match but still give us a rough estimate of how they would perform against real players) and noia has been very good in them.
As for why their teams haven't performed, its could be anything from personality clashes to role conflicts to meL simply just being a bad IGL and them getting outplayed as a collective.

some esports TO should def pick him up he'd make a banger host
also seems like he enjoys laying low
https://twitter.com/Myth_/status/1631559179923255296?s=20

https://www.vlr.gg/post/1762940/game-changers-teams
read my comment in this thread

• i mean shit, in NA, it might as well already be happening. sarah, flor, meL have played on multiple mixed pug rosters for knights monthlys.
• Incentive will prove a main issue tho, but that's up to the player. Some players simply give way less of a fuck about money/ have alternative income sources.
• Really good players (not at present don't bite me) could simply just get scouted by teams lol, especially with increased chances of proving oneself like 10mans and whatnot.

Forgot to clarify that this disease is spread by use of alliance broadband

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then they work on that just like any other team conflict?

im afraid your grammar is far too elaborate for the low iq demo you're trying to reach.

well im fucking down

i mean gc players growing out of the league into actual t1/2 teams i thought that was obvious

what is bro spittin

if i were to take just your title tho, ideal gc future = mixed teams. Maybe 1 or 2 decent gc teams.

how do people who exist at the bottom of the barrel of an irrelevant league manage to be so fucking loud all the time. Surely they take a hint from the only people with potential for relevance in their scene and shut the fuck up, no?

Optic Forsaken will save NA

without dropping a map is crazy

Fuck cancer.

all been planned way before library major happened but ok, even then, your crowd is still shit, and TOs have to PRAY that SA teams wiggle their way into finals or else you'd have an empty finals stad lmao. all g tho. tired of this argument now. BR GOOD #VAMOSSSS

cs will never host an major event there ever again i think they learned their lesson LMFAO. Any esport not fielding a top SA team wouldn't even dare.......

this is some stalker shit im phoning the police

ye no fucking shit im saying riot took a L hosting it there dumbass