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AGP wins but edith pops off
it doesn't i was just memeing lol
It actually was 100T Stellar. I cross-referenced with the Leaderboard. That's also the real Pr0phie from OG Nearest Airport as well.
https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/aaed485e-6745-4ca9-8e23-35d3a8ebf80f?handle=100T%20stellar%23bden
here is a 4k from the dm to prove I wasn't camping corners and shit
I am a champion!
I love stellar btw
i went 6-2 vs Stellar in a DM
Registered: February 13, 2022
unfortunately i have been a drx supporter since before you even existed on this website.
cant believe i wasnt added to that list for DRX
Edith is super cracked btw - no one will really acknowledge but when I scrimmed them they were by far and away the best player on their team. That's not me saying the other players are bad btw.
edit: apparently their pronouns are they/them, edited
I still can't understand how Bleed didn't make it
They literally didn't apply
https://twitter.com/_SushantJha/status/1573574523479531520?s=20&t=gi3y7zOuAchghzlsBdQhTw
would ya look at that
No, not every team will wait. It's possible some orgs will pick up one superstar player with the intent of reselling. But most orgs will definitely not be willing to buy out players.
that mill basically secured sen of a partnered spot even before the system was announced
You're not sure about that. It could also be the Shroud signing, it could be all of these factors. This is just speculation. And more importantly, say it did secure SEN partnership. What now? These orgs are already partnered, so what's another TenZ going to do? Put these teams in the partnership of a partnership?
and none of these orgs are gonna ask as much as c9 considering the circumstances of the sen deal (them being literally the best team in the world at the time)
Your timeline is wrong. SEN were not the best team in the world at the time, they became the best AFTER they secured TenZ. In fact, SEN lost to NV during Challengers 2, thus making them 2nd seed for Masters 1 - that was after they picked up TenZ.
I just fail to see why you dont think a team would want to pay a buy out for high demand players like yay/marved/fns/cryo/zekken who are 100% getting picked up if you decide to wait the clock, when those are possible history defining transfers for a team
They'll be picked up, I'm not saying no org will be willing to buy them out, but I am saying most/a lot of orgs will be perfectly content fielding the roster they have and waiting out the contracts of other players. What about BcJ? What about Dephh? What about Zander? What about all these players that aren't the best at their role but are still locked into their contract? They're not going to be the ultimate priority - it's possible orgs will be fine waiting for these contracts to run out. Don't forget that there are only 50 (60 actually, but no one wants to be on the bench) player spots per league, and all of the partnered teams already have a core roster.
Yeah, relatively speaking no org pulls as much as SEN, but on their own these orgs are fine as it is regarding their fanbase/viewership/establishment. KCorp never made it out of VRL but still have a big fanbase. BBL didn't do much in VCT EMEA either but they're pretty big too.
Riot would definetely take notice if an org decides to not try for the kick off tournament or masters as you suggested earlier.
Riot's not gonna care until this behaviour stretches into the year. This 30 team kickoff doesn't mean much for the org's relationship with Riot. Why should it? There's still another Masters and the actual league season and Champions and LCQ for them to build up their image/relationship. Do you think Riot's seriously going to consider severing an org's partnership because they weren't willing to drop huge numbers on buying out players?
Being financially aware seems way closer to actually trying in the biggest LAN tournament of val history rather than saving 1 or 2 hundred thousand on a buyout
It's only the biggest LAN tournament of val history so far, it's been only 2 years and it's going to be just a few months since the beginning of the Partnership leagues. It's not going to be that big of a deal, and I'm sure orgs are looking for the long run instead of going all in just because there's a 30 team kickoff tournament. This LAN, while big, is obviously not going to be as important as Champions.
I'm speaking generally. The M3C players are also F/A.
Orgs are gonna prioritise good players they can pick up for free - obviously.
But they will also keep in mind the investment that goes into buyout clauses. Like I said, TenZ had the highest buyout clause in Valorant history and SEN fell off the pro scene less than half a year later. This is obviously going to be a factor when orgs consider dropping the bag for buyouts.
I'm somewhat sure some orgs are content to wait and be frugal regarding their early investments - don't forget, some of these orgs have already gotten into the league with minimal investment in the first place.
I'm also making this thread based off what I've heard within the scene. People downvoting me for some reason lol, but there's merit to the idea imo.
Team Liquid, already established.
KOI, KCORP, already huge orgs in their country.
BBL, FNC, NAVI, Vitality - all established names.
Only FUT, Heretics, and Giants are questionable. But even Heretics acquired an LEC slot.
NA:
100T, C9, EG, FURIA, MIBR, NRG, SEN - these are all established orgs.
Only MiBR isn't established in the Valorant scene. Leviatan, LOUD, and KRU are either big or have an established fanbase in the scene within their region.
APAC:
PRX, DRX, ZETA, DNG, GEN.G, T1, GE, TS - all established.
PSG.Talon and RRQ aren't as popular/well-known but Talon is already a big enough name in League and especially DOTA 2 and from what I know RRQ is big in the PH.
Riot could perfectly replace them in 4 years or even earlier if they consider they aren't fulfilling their standards
That is irrelevant. The timespan I'm talking about is just until major player contracts run out, which will be within next year, probably before Q2/Q3. This early period isn't going to resonate for the next 4 years - there will always be talent, arguably it will be easier to scout talent with the way Tier 2 is being run. Obviously orgs are just being financially aware - it's very possible they aren't willing to drop the bag and are glad to continue with either their current rosters (with some minor changes) and just wait until restricted F/As became unrestricted F/As. This doesn't mean they'll continue this practice for the rest of the duration of their contract.
Not at all, it makes way more sense to get the good players first before you end up with a shit roster.
Yeah, on paper. But with how inflated the Valorant scene is (especially in NA) the buyouts are going to be high - arguably too high.
Just because these orgs have high financial freedom doesn't mean they're willing to drop the bag on buying out all these restricted F/As - they will likely prioritise any good F/As from OpTic/FPX/M3C/etc and wait until the restricted F/As run down their contracts, because there's more financial gain from acquiring good players on a free after a bad tournament instead of paying out a chunk of change.
Don't forget SEN acquired TenZ and did nothing after winning Iceland. I reckon most orgs will have that in mind when considering whether to drop money on the next big thing.
There's every possible incentive for them to win, from creating fanbases, win prizes, increasing air time, etc.
These orgs are heavily established. Look at SEN. They did not win shit nor do shit for the latter of 2021 and all of 2022, yet still have a huge fanbase. Doesn't mean anything. Plus nobody is going to take their position in the Franchise League.
And the good players are gonna want to be in those tournaments. If an org decides to run the clock down then another org will just snatch the player
It's a game of chicken.
Yeah, but I reckon that some of these pros have insane buyout clauses - it's likely they think financially it's better to wait it out. These guys are restricted F/As so it's all about establishing initial contact and maintaining their interest.
They could literally grab any good enough pro for a roster, compete with them until the contracts of the players they want expire.
Some of these orgs literally could not care less about that. Look at T1 and GEN.G.
Look at G2, literally ditched EMEA just for a spot in NA - you think they'd care? Obviously they're kicked out of the league but if an org could have this kind of mentality and get a spot, who's to say the orgs that are currently in the league wouldn't?
edit: why are people convinced orgs care about whether this will be a good look for their league or not lol, the LCS was fine with importing washed up KR players and doing badly.
then they will embarass their region in kickoff brazil
I seriously doubt any major org will have this as their priority.
Yeah. They're not losing anything by bombing out of Kickoff or Masters lol.
Don't forget, these orgs are literally paid by Riot to be in the league. There's no real incentive for them to win from what it seems.
Why would any Franchise org spend money on buyouts when they could just wait out the clock? The top players aren't going to renew, so it's likely these huge orgs will just chill with whatever players are there rn and then get the top players on a free.
SEN 2 - 3 PRX
Jinggg drops 70 kills in 20-22 OT
TenZ has a total of 380 ACS over the full 5 maps
Shroud has at least 2 clutches per map
f0rsakeN drops 20 as Yoru within the first half of Bind
t3xture 3rd best player at EA LCQ
bruh
these players except shiba are too good to be 6th men
cannot think of anyone from apac who's overhyped simply because we havent won shit and thus there is nothing to be overhyped about.
but if theres someone who imo probably gets more credit than he's due it's f0rsakeN. guys a beast but people act like he's the s1mple of valorant when he's mostly overshadowed by jinggg.
hot take but I think Fire Again >>> Star Walkin'
Fire Again is just so much more hype, the bass hits hard and it's something that gets you pumped up.
Star Walkin' is a good song I just don't feel any hype.
im prob in the minority but i didnt feel the impact or hype as a Worlds song.
doesnt match up to the hype of the prev World's song, Take Over, i think Die For You and Fire Again were better as hype songs even.
unrelated but good to see u back i used to remember u back when u were active cuz u were one of the few to talk about the kr scene
they definitely gon be playing that at the club
he asked if ppl would support him if he went fulltime streaming
i think he should continue his rap career
dexter made the goat post how am i topping that