his twitter kinda confirmed there will be one with the overdue 2020 rewind as well

Didn't his brother wanted a roster a change when they "lost" to Keyd Stars the first time?

is there any purpose in comparing? NA CS' peak was very high considering Liquid was legit a top 5 team during the Astralis era. You can't say the same in Valorant when the competitive scene is still not developed when the top teams barely play each other so we don't really know who's gonna win at a given point in time.

OW is much better now and that includes the viewership and meta. Still, what happens after OW2 is released is still uncertain.

People are just coping in this sub. If you read articles about him you'll realize he likes Overwatch more. Valorant is just a stepping stone.

Nowhere in my post I hated on X10? do you even mean what "overperformed" means? The team that was close to me shittin on in my post was TS for god's sake. Also, you need mental help when you keep responding to your own comments through your alt account.

True. Like you said, these weird brackets can be avoided if these teams were allowed to play each other more often. Unfortunately I also agree that Riot will have to focus more on competitiveness over viewership to make this possible.

I think some CS pros go to try outs just because they can: RUSH, ALEX, and probably Brehze if he refuses to get picked up at all.

For comparison, the CS major is also single elims for the playoffs. The only difference is that the teams that won in the challengers and legends stages through the swiss-system are just overall better that it doesn't matter which team is paired with who. This becomes a problem when you want regional representation in Masters/Champions which Riot does rather than the "true best teams" fighting it out.

X10 overperformed and has a much better record than VS at this point by taking down both Keyd Stars and Envy (although Envy looked like shit after they lost to Acend). Secret, not so much when they just beat Team Vikings and CR.

imo only X10 proved anything relevant at least based on their wins. TS won against Vikings and CR which doesn't say much.

SEA has potential but yes, but I think TS still has to prove itself more. I wouldn't rate them highly especially when Team Vikings and Crazy Raccoons are pretty much meme teams in this tournament. X10 however, is a really good team so far.

True. I kept saying they were the 3rd best PH Team after losing to the other "BREN" teams. But they'd definitely stepped up here on Masters. TS is a LAN team confirmed lol.

So how does any of what you said refute any of my arguments? SMB falling off just means they're not really a top team. Beating Acend online does not matter much if it was just a seeding match and what's worse is they can't win against a broken-looking Acend on stage. Acend literally defeated Gambit in the qualifiers but nobody is claiming they are top 2. Also, my point about maps is about having huge map pools. By applying the logic that winning 1 map has merit, then it also means within the 100 map streak VS had, the teams that beat them in 1 map are closer in skill to them, which is an argument that doesn't make sense.

You mean SMB the "onliners" and a shaky Acend that still got the nerves after their loss to VS which was evident when they played against SMB even though they won? Also, taking a map off against Gambit doesn't mean anything if you can't win the whole match. If you understand how map vetoing works you should know that it is very possible to take a map off even though you're a weaker team. That's why the top teams always have huge map pools to solve this issue.

So what's your point? I was just saying VS is overhyped and they just proved they really are. I'm not even telling you to stop supporting them. But a lot of people (maybe not you) are claiming they are a top 5 team in the world especially when they have a poor record internationally is just ridiculous.

I'm not saying to stop supporting KR but what you said just adds to the case that your region is definitely overhyped.

Because they dominate in LoL and OW and somehow the fans from those games have the same expectations in Valorant. But the majority of the top players are just the same people back in CS. Even VS is literally ex MVP-PK.

Even though you are correct, I was talking about the flawed expectations that KR is a top team when the best team they beat "internationally" was a shaky Acend.

a lot of vlr guys from LoL and OW who expect korean dominance are in full copium right now especially when their delusions are swept away lol.

they only win against weak opposition. Even their Acend win was a fluke considering how bad Acend played after their loss to VS

Can we stop with the "korean dominance" obsession right now? I won't deny they're ok but they're just gatekeepers at best.

he's a jack of all trades and can pick any role they give him. any team would be tempted to have talent like him. even on TL's prime he barely hit 1.0 rating.

What do you mean hate? I mean people were saying he is the "esports player of the year" and comparing him to s1mple of course there will be arguments why he isn't and not even close.

Being completely different games is irrelevant when a majority of the top players have a history in CS. The problem here is good work ethic which NA players don't have. coldzera was the most hard working brazilian player on his team when they were still at the top and it definitely paid off based on his performance on LAN.

I agree. Can't stress this too much. More practice, less streaming, and less braindead arguments with people on reddit and twitter.

Envy has a more terrible record on Breeze. They don't even play fracture. They can't win the vetoing process if they have a small map pool.

Well they already have shinobi for that

all they need is more practice and less twitter and streaming.

He is correct but what OP meant is the feeling you get in a real LAN tournament. Some teams perform just as good or better if they perform in a stage or in front of an audience while other teams perform worse.

that is not normally

To be fair I think Acend could've made their actions less controversial to de-escalate the issue. However, I also can't blame them if they really want to fight back.

Esports Talk was reporting about how the fans didn't like that Richard Lewis was chosen as the host for some Rocket League event. Apparently later on in the video, the reporter (hunter) shared his opinion against RL and even used some videos taken out of context to further his narrative (In reality, RL joined a podcast while drunk and grieving over the death of his best friend). Richard Lewis then responded in his own video saying that what they were doing is irresponsible and just poor journalism. I think RL can be an ass sometimes especially on twitter, but I also agree Esports Talk was just terrible and were definitely using his grief to farm clicks. I'm not really sure if I can share YouTube links but both videos are very easy to find.

This is the same channel that made content about Richard Lewis which heavily backfired on them lol.

I agree. Can't help but compare this to IEM Winter when that tournament feels more like a real competition. Asides from Tyloo, all teams that joined are among the strongest and most competitive you can get despite Navi not joining. Even BIG and Godsent are playing really well. Champions just feels like exhibition matches between region representatives lol.

or be like FURIA (CS). Leave it to the TO and just shut up and focus on the game lol.

The problem is how even the pros are so reactive on twitter. I wish these people could borrow a page from FURIA's (CS team) playbook, they took issues professionally and at the end of the day, they gained more than what was lost.

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I'm just happy FURIA is winning some rounds lol.

Go FURIA!

He was forced to. Nobody else was comfortable with the awp and he was the only one with the best success in. It was autimatic who wanted to awp although he's from a different team.

not really. the guy has been playing fpl since forever. also val mechanics aren't really that complicated to the point that he had to learn a lot of new stuff and forget what he knew when he initially switched from CS to VAL.

Also, TS' win rate is abysmal in Breeze.

this can't be saving strats. You can't just lose to underdogs. Gambit just looks broken lmao.

lol TS might take this on momentum alone. Gambit just looks so broken.

that is not normally

He's doing ok to be fair.

Go BR. Go FURIA!

lol. it literally happened again a few moments ago.

nope.