Aspas 🐐
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I think everyone on LEV turns 18 before the start of next year's kickoff, except for Mirada.

The italian opening has always been my favorite. By the way, what’s your rating?

Aspas isn’t a baiter. Just because his playstyle is less aggressive than guys like Keznit, Havoc, or Derke doesn’t make him one

That’s a false equivalence

hi

idk, probably like tier F/C/B or something

He should be the number one priority for FURIA and LOUD going into Stage 2. Dude’s got as much potential as Lukxo, if not more

You do realize you're going directly against the message KRU is trying to push, right?

I don’t think the Aspas baiter narrative makes any sense nowadays. It had some merit back when he was playing for Leviatan, especially around Champions. But MIBR plays a completely different style now.

You can even see it in the stats, Aspas literally has a better FK/FD than Jawgemo.

Half the comments are from the guy above lol

0/8

First Riens, now Benjyfish. Is there some hidden story between Aspas and Heretics?

Derke

They should’ve closed it 2-0 against 100t. The Sen match was the only ‘legit’ loss, not just them throwing the game

It wasn’t stage 1, it was stage 2

I don't see Spikezin solo saving this team

Com Vinny a LOUD perdeu de 2x0 pra 2G, que na época tinha acabado de perder seu IGL e trocado de jogador. Sinceramente, isso é infinitamente pior que sofrer pra EG

Lukxo - It had to be that **** (probably 'neanderthal') digging my body like a maniac. Keznitdeus. Motherfucker.

Apparently, he didn’t call Keznit racist

That’s not true, you’re probably falling into recency bias. I can only remember one truly great performance from Zmjjkk in big matches, and that’s the Champions final. Meanwhile I can think of several great games from Aspas, like the match against TH at Champions, the lower final against EG at Champions 2023, the last match against FNC at Champions 2023, the DRX game at Lock In, etc. And by big games I mean matches against S tier teams that either win or make the podium.

I believe 90% of the hate towards Aspas is just bait, except for the ones calling him a baiter. Those baiters pushed that narrative for so long that some people actually started believing it, even though he has better FK/FD stats than 80% of duelists.

Arguing with you is insane.

One moment you're saying Leo was better than Aspas in 2024, then you're talking about how Leo's achievements make him the Valorant GOAT, then you're saying Aspas’s accomplishments are irrelevant, that he's a baiter, and no one will remember them in three years.

Man, I don't give a damn about Leo's two international events in 2023, that doesn't make his 2024 better than Aspas's.

The discussion was never about whether Leo is the GOAT or not. You think Leo is the GOAT, I don’t. Honestly, that never bothered me.

The only thing that bothers me is you thinking Leo had a better 2024 than Aspas and downplaying what Aspas achieved this year.

This is probably my last post, otherwise this debate is gonna go on forever."

That was Lock In bro. I'm talking about Champions only

And didn't Aspas carry his team to two international events? I'm actually pretty sure Aspas had better performances, both internationally and regionally. I'm not downplaying Leo, he had a good 2024 and his 2023 was one of the best individual years we've seen from any player. But saying his 2024 was better than Aspas's is more than just crazy, it's straight up ignoring reality.

'Leo has always impact even when he was ill and couldn’t even open his god damn mouth, he carried his team with the worst coach to an international'
You know no one’s gonna remember this in three years, right? Lol

Where are you even going with this? The point isn’t if Aspas will be remembered in 10 years (he definitely will), it’s whether he’s done anything noteworthy lately. And honestly, you sound like you don’t even get what 'notable' means.

About your last question, I think it was Ardiis. That clutch vs DRX was insane.

So what? An achievement doesn’t need to be remembered for three years to be considered 'notable'. If we follow that logic, only five players would have 'notable' accomplishments each year.

He broke the kill record in a Bo3.

Had insane performances at Champions 24.

Has been the best duelist in the Americas this year.

I doubt there are five players with better achievements in the same time frame. Saying those aren't notable accomplishments is just pure madness.

"he hasnt done anything noteable in a while" Ok, that’s definitely bait.

He wasn’t among the top 3 players at Champs. Not even the best initiator, as Cauanzin had a better performance in that tournament. Don’t be fooled by inflated stats due to an easy group stage. FNC’s performance against top-tier teams was quite disappointing.

Wtf kkkkkkkk

It's funny how people say Aspas is overrated because of his stats, while they downplay his performance at Champions 2022 using those same stats as justification.

?

https://www.vlr.gg/130624/optic-gaming-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-winners-b

https://www.vlr.gg/130684/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-ubf

https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf

https://www.vlr.gg/85529/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-ubf

https://www.vlr.gg/85530/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-gf

https://www.vlr.gg/112285/optic-gaming-vs-loud-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen-elim-a

Nah, that’s not true. They were tied. Go check it

Imagine this: C9 beats G2. The whole BR scene is waiting for MIBR to win and take first place. Then Furia shows up and wins the most useless match of their lives.

Sounds like such a Furia thing to do

Where’d you even get that OpTic had more wins than LOUD? That’s just not true

Crazy how they could have easily been 4-0

Captar?

In your opinion, what did he mean?

As usual

Why were KRU fans so mad at him?

https://x.com/LucasRojo/status/1911724493510238599?t=NR1vS8sODX41BJQ0iFboBw&s=19

Some said he attacked Keznit, others claimed he accused KRU of throwing the game, but none of that actually happened.

He literally just wrote "bizarre🤦🏻‍♂️" after losing the chance to qualify for Playoffs. His frustration is totally understandable.

https://x.com/loud_lukxo1/status/1911547909553746091?t=NR1vS8sODX41BJQ0iFboBw&s=19

And no, I don't think KRU threw the game on purpose, but it's impossible to deny that the way they lost was really bizarre.

verno is brazilian

Bem lembrado.

Eu tinha pego essa informação desse post https://www.vlr.gg/460661/vct-americas-visas-and-latam-orgs/#5 , então não sei se é muito confiável

Pelo que eu sei, a situação dos vistos é por time, ou seja, Zap só tem visto pra jogar na 2G, e pra jogar por outros times ele teria que tirar outro visto. Claro, posso estar errado.

E o uso de recursos dele é realmente muito ruim. Isso foi a coisa que mais decepcionou nele, além do mental.

I'm used to it by now, it doesn't even hurt anymore

This is perhaps one of the worst player performances I've ever seen. It's impressive how Vinny has such lacking aim and misuses his resources, especially his ultimates. And the worst part? Everyone already knew he wasn't tier 1 level, except for LOUD's management

Antony in manchester united

It's incredible how bad Derke can play when he's having a bad game. I've lost count of how many rounds he threw

Literally everyone seems to look good against FUR, I don't think that's a good argument