doesnt ethan play harbour on icebox, he also played omen a lot

yeah thats what i mean

as i said, maybe it is a format problem, but hes complaining now when they were very much happy getting to skip groups when they got it

i mean yeah, their comps, but they also didnt play super well and lost a close match to a good team. its not like it was a crazy upset

im so confused about the discourse from the g2 coach, like you didnt complain about skipping groups when you got it. Valyn even said that they really wanted the advantage.

And now that they lost, its a format problem? Im not saying hes wrong or not, i just think that to blame the format for their loss is hypocritical.

you do know that they are already in playoffs, dont you?

its true, G2 was meant to get the spot until Carlos lost his damn mind, so C9 got in

cube kyu surely

Honestly he’s kinda hurting his team, he should probably go the meteor/1leaf/Alfa route and lean senti.

If he plays senti, they can concentrate on either, asuna full dualist or get a better dualist elsewhere.

That being said, I haven’t given up on that team just yet, they might still qual and play well in stage 2

Its not hot, it’s straight up dumb.

You would rather have a great OP player that is about as flexible as a piece of glass, than an actual great dualist with great mechanics, that takes space, and can still OP at a very high level

bro that was insane

youre right, people should show empathy, but I will say, this is not the first time, that a single trans person does something bad and its an immediate gateway to transphobia for people.

but you are right, the first reaction to this, by anyone, should be empathy

i doubt it but i would take it over nothing

they honestly all feel like sidegrades, I dont think any of them is a significant upgrade other than maybe bao, but he lacks consistency

yeah exacly, I respect the people who wont be watching, I understant why, but I dont get this holier than thou attitude. Like, I just want to see my team play matches

mad?

I don’t love the guy, but my life is pretty good

They co-own the esport org (Shopify rebellion)

i dont really know about before M80, but ive watched every single game of his for the past two years, and let me tell you, he is VERY rarely having bad matches, even when IGLing. He was undoubtedly the most consistent player on M80

The gap is pretty small

Mechanically bang has a slight edge in terms of peaks, but Zander has been historically more consistent with a higher floor. Zander has been an IGL and has a lot of experience in terms of calling.

Wether 100t is better with Zander will heavily depend on how Zander meshes with the team. If the calling gets better because of him and his experience, then they will be better. If not, they will either be the same of slightly worse

Bro I want them to keep cryo on senti. It looks like they are trying to do like SEN and get a star senti. I think thats the way to do it cause sentinels tend to be stars like Alfa or Meteor

Unknown to you, but they have pretty good players.

To be fair this is about as bad as it gets for a roster debut, but it is only one match on 12 days of prac while trying to force Breach on every map. I think we can wait before talking about changes

brooo i wanted to see this new G2 lineup and there's no stream

I like tenz but he certainly has a tendance to complain A LOT. Like the Neon stuff is kinda justifiable, but complaining about everything in the game gets old real quick. He also complains about stream snipers whilst having little to no delay and not covering the map

I do think Nrg has the potential to win against G2, but right now I agree that it’s probably too soon to put them over G2 until we see more

bro he did not diff him, is it so hard to say that both players are good?

yeah i think they have A LOT to fix, but honestly, my biggest worry about them was FNS's fragging, but if he can keep the same kind of performance, I think they should be fine

Yeah fair enough, I think asuna wanted the roster to remain the same, idk if the org/coach had the same plan though

Ah yes classic... I'm not saying that Zander on 100T because bang left is wrong, I'm saying you dont know whether they wanted to run it back. Which is also backed by the fact that on the SEN podcast narrate said he was in talks with 100t to trial to replace someone other than bang and eventually to replace bang

Great place to live in my experience. Nice people overall. I live in a smaller city so things aren’t very expensive over here which is nice

As much as I dislike the suspension, like what he did had no consequences for anyone involved.

But they are also setting a precedent, so now people won’t go around streaming VODs and maybe even get consequences for leaking stuff from scrims to other teams

idk if LEV actually has the money to pay for both of them, but honestly if both of them stay, LEV should be looking pretty dangerous

Although I will say, with how passive c0m, aspas and demon1 tend to be, it might also be rough

Ah yes the career ending match for FNS is the loss to sagemommy

I mean where I draw the line is when he talks about appliances and utensils. That’s stupid buy your own fucking utensils like everyone else.

But getting peripherals and keyboards should be a given. So complaining about peripherals is fine i think, but complaining about utensils is dumb as fuck.

this might be true, but honestly I think Riot still wanted a full region to be china, like in LoL. China is so big, they have so much money, and also China player base is the same as every other region combined im pretty sure. So NA was always gonna share a region probably

I guess thats fair enough. I just hate seeing this negative narrative going on about koalanoob. As a m80 fan for the past 2 years, i know how good he is, and it really annoys me seeing people act like he somehow makes NAVI a bad team

Listen its fucked for the players that got fucked over last minute. But, do you not think that if happy came in and they were winning every scrims and the team environment was amazing, that he would have cut those players? Happy is trying to win, he chose the players that he thought would help the team win.

Like are you assuming that Happy, with all the respect hes built up over the years, would come in to a team like NAVI and build a bad roster? Why, for fun?

NAVI wanted to sign Happy, they were doing trials for 3 weeks without a coach because they had to wait and see whether happy was going to be available or not. Once he was available, he came in and NAVI gave him some amount of power over the roster (idk how much) and he built the team he thought would be best suited to win

But how do you know that THIS is not NAVI being competent and creating a championship winning roster. As i said, you are dooming because YOU think that NAVI trolled the off season, even though this roster might be very good. YOU have no idea

yes of course Jivko, you are in the scrims and you can now say with certainty that this team is really bad. Of course because a team doesnt have the players you wanted, its obviously shit, and shows that "management doesn't have any will for success in Valorant". Of course every good team on paper turned out to be great and every team without big names ended up garbage. Oh i even remember how everyone was so high on GenG at the beginning of the year and how everyone really knew that EG 2023 was gonna win champs at the beginning of the year, of course...

Like before dooming like the world is ending, how about trying to see how it COULD work

yeah fuck I forgot that NAVI was in every finals last year, so he obviously is gonna ruin the team. You are so fucking right, I'm sure the NAVI org/management is gonna be so fucking sad when they actually start making finals

Exactly people are acting like happy is getting to Navi to try and make the team fail

mada is still Canadian lol

Listen I know tier 1 and 2 aren’t the same obviously. I’m just saying that some players that came from tier 2 were capable of being very good. Narrate, and the former The Guard players are just examples of that. Also yes the former The Guard would NOT have done anywhere as good the way they were playing before, and with the players they had before. My point is just that the idea that Zander and bang are similar, and even making the argument that Zander is better in some aspects is not that crazy JUST because Zander was playing in tier 2

Fair enough, you want players to prove themselves in tier 1 before comparing them to other tier 1 players. That’s fair, I just hate the narrative that because Zander was in tier 2, he can’t even be put in the same conversation to bang

Btw, I DONT want for that to happen, although it’s obvious that NRG aspas would go crazy. But yeah I do think mada is very good

Yes G2 made changes, so what? We are talking about 1 player playing in tier 1. The 3 players that stayed still made it to the final no? Or maybe you are attributing their success to icy.

And yes of course, it a skill gap, because moose could not be replaced by another tier 2 player, of course. And apoth could certainly not have been replaced by another tier 2 player, you are so right, these players have a fucking skill gap…

Thanks for furthering my argument, I actually forgot about narrate who was on the worst tier 2 NA team and became one of the best players in the EMEA league in 2024, you are so right thanks

Tier 1 vs tier 2. I get it, one of them has a 1 meaning obviously tier 2 teams are complete dogshit compared to tier1, right?

Except didn’t G2 come from tier 2 and make an international final this year? Is it not true that teams like MXS and OXG have actually beat “tier 1” teams in the offseason? Is it not also true that players like rossy, Ban, Governor came from middling tier 2 NA teams to prove themselves as good tier 1 pros? I it not also true that Zander and bang used to play in the same tournament before partnership?

So if middling tier 2 NA players could make it to champs last year, is it that far fetched to put the best player on the best NA tier 2 team, two years in a row, in the same conversation as a good tier 1 pro? I don’t think it’s that outrageous no

Interesting because bang also went -10 in a game against Oxygen, in fact Zander went +4 against that same Oxygen… Well according to your logic, this means Zander is MUCH better than bang right?

Idk wtf you’re taking about but you do understand that tier1 and tier 2 are separated by an artificial line that riot made? You do understand that G2 came from tier 2 and had a really good year? You do understand that valorant esports didn’t start with partnership, and that Zander AND bang were playing in the same tournaments before partnership?

You are so influenced by the term “tier 1” that you just stopped thinking I guess but yeah my flag and flair show that I actually watched the games with Zander, did you? Because a lot of the arguments you make are very heavily vlr stats related, almost as if you’re just talking out of your ass

Ok you are so bias against Zander it’s getting ridiculous. Wtf did he do, steal your lunch money? Or do you just have a crush on him?

Either way, anything you say regarding Zander is nullified by the fact that you’ve been talking shit about him for the past two months