eyy my goat frogger

sen would have had their pants pulled down, and their legs spread open by a tl that had about 2 days of prep

W mans

not to mention all the disadvantages emea has had compared to every other region going into toronto; its insane that fnc has overcome this and pushed through lowers, mid-low diffing the americas and beating china to get to the grand finals

love to see the s0n copium lmao

idk whats with all the jawgemo glazing tbh

chron, like hentai said, has 3 international trophies more than any team

not to mention that g2 which are (as you americans love to proclaim), are the "gReaTesT iTw", and yet, when did they win a masters? when did they win a champs?

even s0ntinels have won trophies (sure in the past, but g2 is supposedly the future, so that isnt an excuse, since theyre better than everyone right?)

lmao

jawgemo also went -15 against fnc and went 4 first kills to 14 first deaths

my goat chron could never against gold2

well tbh fnc has dominated every icebox game, stats-wise no?

theyve only played it twice this event and both were very convincing (13-9 vs sen, where no one but zellsis had a positive kd- he had a +1 btw.. and a 13-4 vs wolves); do i even have to say any more?

also both kaajak and chron on sage look like the best sage players on icebox; better than jawgemo anyone else by miles

nah im trolling, i didnt think they were the best.

top 3 though for sure

i feel as though the recency bias for g2 and sen is so strong in the americas (with them being so dominant compared to the rest of teams), that everyone auto assumes they will win it all

people seem to forget that although g2 are the undisputed goat of the americas, they cant win anything internationally (at least yet, they arent strong enough)

i thought g2 was the best team itw though? D':

unfortunately you are wrong </3

but i see the vision

heres my unbiased take (as an emea fan):

prx > fnc on lotus and sunset

fnc > prx on ascent, icebox and split

havens a bit questionable since fnc were looking like the best haven team before this event, but look terrible on it now; going 0-3 i believe? (or 0-2); as of the recent fnc performances on it though, im leaning more towards prx, but who knows... if we see the fnc from before toronto, they stomp with the double duelist comp

pearl is a bit of a question mark too since prx look pretty mid on the map, having a record since the start of the year being 3 wins and 3 losses; whereas fnc have only played it once this whole year, winning it; so no one knows if how good or bad they may be on it.

what time is g2, sen or mibr playing today?

ik that..

bro i swear some of you cant read

i said SINCE YAY. not that hes better than him..

its the only thing aspas with mibr will probably ever win (internationally) lmao

chron on the other hand, even if fnc loses tomorrow, fnc are looking good enough to where its still possible to win soon

not to mention how all the americas teams got eliminated by none other tha emea teams..

we own their region; it happens almost every event where emea eliminates the americas and they still claim to be better than us?

and chronicle would never finish a masters/champs or anything in between as the second lowest rated player in the whole event

you clearly didnt read anything before yapping, or you wouldve seen that i hadn't mentioned this tourney at all.

i said "is alfa the best chamber since prime yay?"; meaning from anytime since 2022/2023 till now which is a HUGE period of time

yeah akame is insane

its a shame dfm fell off though; they were looking insane for a bit

yeah thats true. but alfa was diffing leaf in the op head to head so idk; i think alfas op aim clears

s0n cope lmao

is alfa the best chamber since prime yay?

if not, who are people better currently or previously in your guys' opinions?

im just curious because this guy looks way too good rn and i dont think ive seen anyone with this kinda mechanics on chamber since yay as i said above

this is actually cool ngl

how did you get these stats?

or did you look at each and every game?

i wanna see how we matchup against prxs maps

in my eyes, wo0t is similar to a player like asuna, not the greatest in the world by any means; but his playstyle is almost like a wild dog, wanting to just run at everyone

players like that, you should just let them run wild and theyll cook.

but if you try too many complex setups and things like that, you wouldnt be fully utilizing their potential

the agents he has to play are like a hinderance to him atm and ive seen him bottom frag quite a few times (even though the issue has never been him being able to frag); making it difficult for th to do much in basically a 4v5 some series

as crazy as it seems, what if the org told wo0t that he HAS to play duelist or he's gone?

bros one of the best jetts ive ever seen in my life and he hardly plays the role solely because he doesnt want to?

like bro.. his team needs that explosivity.. th cant constantly rely on miniboo, riens or benjy (in clutches mainly) to bail them out

boo is consistent but doesnt get many kills since hes setting the others up more

but yeah, wo0ts firepower is most effective on the duelist role for sure. his mechanics + aggression are too good to be using anything else

he seems to be forced to play more passive because hes on util-heavy agents a lot like gekko where he needs to play post, rather than making plays

at the end of the day, no one cares about how many people are in each region.

or what youve had for breakfast

or what your dogs name is

all that matters are results.

na looks the weakest atm and thats all there is to it.

who knows, maybe you guys will come back stronger in champs, but this masters is going to either apac or emea..

i hate seeing all this cope from every region when they lose (even from my own- as an emea fan)

emea smoked the americas this masters; making aspas look like a silver player at best and thats fine.

ggs nonetheless.

based take honestly

leo in 7th of all time is ridiculous..

hes closer to top 5 or top 3 of all time

having leo back would make them unbeatable ngl

talking about "keep dreaming", while sen was probably physically sleeping on their flight back home is ironic ngl

the only team in the americas that doesnt get farmed by emea in internationals is an emea org </3

you do realise that if leo was still playing, we would be at least twice as good as we are with crashies..

na fans cant get top 3 and all of a sudden cling ontop imports as if its their win too </3

the stats say otherwise.

whether thats true or not about drx being "10x better than navi", the fact of the matter is that navi were still playing for a day after drx were eliminated.

so thats factually wrong

hmm lets check this out for a sec

so as you said, they didnt make top 3 in iceland

the only one thats a bit questionable is lock//in, where navi and drx were supposedly tied for 3rd..

since it was a single elim tourney, and drx were eliminated a day before navi idk about that one..

but yeah everything else is right

people always turn a blind eye to na, apac and china bowing out early in champs and masters. but as soon as emea doesnt have as much success (not winning anything major in 2024), as theyve had every other year, then everyones quick to call emea the worst

can i just point out how both the americas and chinas one team are both emea orgs..

EMEA ON TOP

THROAT

haha

tbh tl wouldve had a good chance to be where fnc is rn too, but i dont think fnc would be out either..

both of those teams are strong enough to win it all tbf

yeah youre right

leo was 100% the best player itw at that time

one of the best fundamentals, best clutcher, best initiator, one of the best fraggers (would be dropping 30 kill games even when fnc loses the map)

and ontop of all that alfa and leo are like best friends so that duo wasnt even fair haha

and then there was prime derke.. top 2 duelist itw at that time (was heavily debated on who was better out of aspas and derke at that time)

boaster had one of the highest clutch winrates itw

and then chron is chron..

oh 100% theyd never lose another series if leo was back with the rest of the boys looking in this form

even though leo clears crashies 1000000%, idk if he would just replace crashies since the vibes are crazy with him on the team..

lmaoooooooooo

if alfa, chron or kaajak are feeling it in the round, its more like a 60/40 or more that they win, even if they dont have numbers

you cant counter a team where youre just getting aim diffed and strat diffed

an emea org is also carrying china as well (wolves)

emea might have the greatest orgs ngl

people still vote g2 above fnc.. lmao

true, looking at the stats alone showed that fnc dominated g2 in every aspect

quite frankly, the games wouldnt have lasted even half as long in duration if fnc didnt lose to time so many rounds; and learnt to convert buy rounds and bonuses..

coulda been a quick 13-5, 13-6

fnc were better in every way

g2 were getting aim diffed. thats why they had low kills. nothing more than that haha

they just werent and arent as good as fnc

that does seem to be how our teams in emea work haha.

i hate but love rooting for them because they always get 2nd or 3rd and lose; getting my hopes up high lmao :')

boaster would become the best igl in history since he wouldve won a masters and/or champs with not 1 but with 3 different rosters

no other igl has been close to doing this before.