There are usernames you come up with when you're 9 and then keep for the rest of your life because it works, then there are usernames you come up with when you're 9 and change several years later because it's cringe.

WorseSquash9 is the former, Demon1 is the latter

3-1 NRG because JoshRT forgets about map ban advantage and accidentally bans bind while thinking he's doing a map pick and allowing lotus to go through.

#5 and #9*

what does this mean for EMEA

oh SEN is definitely remembering who they are. they're brawk's kittens

what the fuck does nrg even have to do to convince people they're a good team lmaooo. I swear they could win champs and the narrative would become that we have a "0 team globe"

my bad, you're right. there is a tier gap between SEN and NRG

NRG MIBR SEN G2 in that order, anyone who says otherwise is lying tbh

y'all went from beating a PRX that would go on to make champs finals to not making an international, all I know is y'all did SOMETHING wrong

"Same amount post-chamber nerf"
yeah but when you say "same amount as 2024 bleed esports and 2025 evil geniuses" that says more about cloud9 than it does yay, no?
washed yay = peak c0

fnatic sneak as well if they keep playing like they did during emea playoffs. if anyone can turn it around it's them but emea is looking rough rn. nrg beats current fnatic (no bias)

more internationals than c0

the tier gap where they got owned by a team that nearly lost to nrg? sen are obv favourites but calling it a tier gap is crazy

the real nrg fans want it to happen so s0m can get revenge

is that how you describe a fight between your two braincells?

shit you got me

it's not bait, it's putting the absurdity of your statement on display

nrg was the best team at champs 23 before the blg incident

which choke are we talking about? are we talking about:
the map they choked against fnatic?
the maps the choked against wolves?
or the map they choked against g2?

you know, I actually heard that gentlemates was the best team in emea before the choke

how'd the rest of the region do? we're talking average placement so it might be relevant

we're talking flukes when PRX almost got grouped by TL abducting a random canadian (penny my goat)?

doesn't need to be both, using NRG as an example because it's the universe I want to be real:
NRG wins stage 2, gets #1 seed
SEN gets 2nd place, gets #2 seed
G2 gets 3rd place, gets #3 seed off champ points
MIBR does nothing and gets #4 seed

edit: oh that's what you meant, my bad

how many people think NRG was anything close to good before stage 2?

I realized this right after posting lol

I am stupid and forgot that a win would make them top 4

I don't believe playoff wins give champ points

To be fair, team liquid is undefeated this split

Fnatic haters finally eating, I've been starving for months

Kinda hard to have a life game as yay when 2022 exists

deal

Well well well

#WOLVESWIN THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

G2 have to be #2 for me bc of regional bias though

yeah

I cannot wait for the EMEA teams to do just as shit at champs as they did at toronto so we can hear the new excuses. Maybe next time it'll be that they got too much prep, so they were rusty.

FNS is gone bro, trust me I am painfully aware

and as for bigger in every aspect, valorant is a game with around half the airtime, but nearly the same hours watched, and is also still pretty damn young at only 5 years old. So like, yeah CS is currently bigger, but valorant is growing rapidly particularly in china (which often isn't counted for watchtime hours because it's harder to track)

People were calling GenG top 3 when they're the luckiest team at the event and they STILL end up 5th-6th lmao

You are both simultaneously incorrect. Nobody from CS would rather be playing valorant right now, but it's not better in every single aspect either. I assure you there are zero tier 1 valorant pros that would rather be playing CS.

I remember that one map in ascension where M80 lost every round in which he died except for one, and won.

Wolves

Nah I texted my friend "G2 are winning this" at 11-6, you just didn't feel the aura in the air (carbon monoxide)

Wolves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else (incl. china) > EMEA

all you had to do was STFU for 2 more rounds but you just couldn't help yourself could you? LMFAO

yo can you shittalk nrg for me? please and thank you.

What G2 FNC game? My script here has EMEA with 2 wins at the whole event.

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Hey, just coming in from the future to say you were right, sorry for the spoiler

Based, but why do wolves lose to any non-na teams?

WOL and SEN have question marks around strength of schedule and GenG doesn't??? hello?? the only teams gen.g beat were mibr and prx, and prx in turn only beat th and tl. The only non-apac teams that apac has beaten thus far have been the worst ones at the tournament.

Like apac looked very good in those wins (except tl), so it wouldn't surprise me if they do well, but using strength of schedule as an argument in favour of GenG/PRX is some delulu shit.

I mean, I understand wanting to treat ewc as a mickey mouse because of all the problems with saudi arabia, but the reality is that the players are not treating it as such bc of the prize pool. MIBR isn't even one of the 4 teams to make it from americas. Just because you don't like the tourney for valid reasons doesn't mean it isn't indicative of the team's performance.

You're right to say I can't prove that GenG is bad, they won both games lmfao, but calling them a top 3 team before they play serious competition is a stretch (and don't say PRX because that team has literally only beaten TH and zero-prep Liquid, and they barely beat TL at that).

I literally never said GenG was bad, I'm arguing that there isn't enough evidence to claim they're top 3.