If we're talking all time, FNS/Stax > Valyn. Valyn not in the conversation yet. Win international trophy first.
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If we're talking all time, FNS/Stax > Valyn. Valyn not in the conversation yet. Win international trophy first.
VS/DRX farms regional trophies in KR, gotta move elsewhere to win regional trophies.
4 trophies. Those u mentioned and:
Red Bull Home Ground #5 2024
Japan Stage 2: Challengers 2022
Looking forward to watching demon1 in Toronto, is he in playoff? When does he play?
Miniboo has amazing acting skills when camera showed his face after getting knifed by something on pearl.
Mini said it best during something knife on 13-1 pearl.
"If PRX are shitting on them like this, they knifing them and shit, like Heretics are sitting there right now while thinking like we might actually go home. Like those thoughts going into your head into these moments".
If u wanna compare the Latest Americas timezone event vs Latest Asia timezone event, LA champs and Bangkok is the best comparison. I'm bringing Champs Seoul data to bring out the biggest sheer amount of jump asia timezone data. Americas have champs numbers, so it would be unfair to just put masters Bangkok numbers for Asia timezone.
Americas only ever had 2 event, Lockin Brazil and Champs LA, and both were around the time VCT CN haven't been established therefore the data could not be pull.
Best up to date data will be the bangkok numbers vs Toronto numbers. So just wait, chill.
Then compare 2024 Seoul champs data vs 2026 CN Champs vs 2027 Americas Champs numbers.
Gotta pick a side Sliggy. The train or TL.
Bangkok and LA are basically 2 years
this is to illustrate the latest international event in Americas timezone to the most recent Champs/Masters event. Toronto final will be the most up to date, but its the LA-Bangkok is best comparison data. we can pull for Americas/Asia timezone event. For Masters > Champs is crazy tho.
but If playoffs time started even further late than group stage more people will be sleeping the event.
Does the Track by Track PRX fans throw the conductor into the furnace?
Pacific teams rn are super strong whereas EMEA teams are in shambles. PRX have got what it takes to do a deep run in playoffs while TL is questionable. Go for PRX.
Asia Timezone = high viewers
America Timezone = low viewers
TH coach says prep time is NOT an excuse for their loss at post match press conference. Find another.
Wouldn't say mid. He was a standout during his VCT debut, but not so standout anymore. Still a very good player.
was following Crazy Raccoon fortnite team then they made a valo roster, 1st game I watch was First Strike Japan 2020.
Jemkin, 4 support players and Warbirds Anti-Strats masterclass.
that's what happened to asia for entire 2021 and 2022 + lockin brazil (7 events), Toronto is only the 4th, so there will be 3 more ending 2026 champs China.
Not exactly PRX/GenG fans, but I support all asian teams at internationals.
cause those teams play their matches in favourable timezone, not 3am americas.
Donate 10c to charity for every post you have on VLR.
That's around $500 for you to donate If G2 don't win Toronto.
jealous cause EMEA/Americas choke last 3/3 international event.
FNC better make top 4, or else it's an all time low for EMEA.
APAC has PRX/GenG/RRQ/DRX/T1/Boom all strong teams. PRX and GenG can win 13-1, you know the typical "WILL DESTROY" comments, not the barely scrape 13-11, 13-8 win SEN does.
If u only watch 1 region, you would assume your region is the best, simple ignorant mindset. Asia won 3/3 last international event and now Pacific has an army of strong teams PRX/GenG/RRQ/DRX/T1/Boom to make deep runs in international event. PRX and GenG already convincingly win 13-1 in their respective matches. EMEA only have FNC and Americas only have G2 as strong contender, SEN form facing wolves won't be strong enough to make it deep in playoffs.
Kaplan put it best at the interview: SEN didn't perform as good because they don't get any sort of practice against team similar like Wolves in americas. Its a regional style difference that's why SEN was struggling.
Pacific winning today. 1 team guarantee to playoffs.
Timezone is tough, he would eventually stream late or miss 1 PRX game cause of Timezone. I miss GenG’s 13-1 Haven MIBR cause I fell asleep after map 1 (it was 3am). It’s only day 2 as well.
Point is DRX/T1/Boom/GenG/PRX/RRQ are all competitive.
Americas team then, pacific timezone not suitable for people living in US (vice versa).
FNS not gonna survive pacific. He'll get eaten alive with all the firepower in the region.
For each team would be different, pick up better player (roster upgrade), consistency, map pool, pick up international wins, make deep run, beat a rival international team etc.
Ardiis jokes a lot, but the whzy winning sunset moment is one of those moment u can't ignore. Whzy expression shows it.
FPX tried, but didn't get their breakthrough. Keep running into walls with close games vs TH.
The determining factor would be breakthroughs. EDG accomplished this when during masters Tokyo. Step 1 for other CN teams would be beating EDG in VCT CN, Step 2 would be making a run at internationals similar to EDG. That benefit both the upcoming CN team and make eye opening performance for international people.
When BLG won against TL, ardiis acknowledge whzy passion celebration on that sunset win and 2nd guessing whether he doubting CN teams. Winning 13-1 would be a better convincing way to do it like the 2 pacific team rn. These are positive forward steps to achieve it.
Chichoo said this before in content/interview:
EDG is in a very lucky position because we've been to many international event, practicing against international teams during our travel, and those international practice/matches help them to grow as a player.
Remember Pre partnership ZETA? When JP had international slot when they go overseas they get blacklisted by MANY teams after practice which I would say to this day hindered the JP growth.
TLDR; facing international teams is important for player's development.
Domestic level of competitiveness means they have multiple strong teams for internationals. In reality a lot of the Chinese teams are very inexperienced at international stage. Lysoar have international experience but his omen performance vs SEN was horrible. Pacific has PRX/GenG/RRQ/DRX/T1/Boom super competitiveness at domestic level. PRX 13-1 TH and GenG 13-1 MIBR. CN needs this level of convincingness to easily say that CN better than EMEA.
Chichoo said this before in content/interview:
EDG is in a very lucky position because we've been to many international event, practicing against international teams during our travel, and those international practice/matches help them to grow as a player.
XLG and many Chinese teams would only practice against Pacific teams, improvising in strats is good but having international experience matters a lot.
Karon contract expire end of this year. If he pulls a meteor and move to T1, they would be very solid.
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