Seoldam, Lakia, Sylvan, Secret, Munchkin

medusa, eko, meteor, hsk, allow, suggest all good players as well

LEC is dogwater compared to Chinese and Korean teams, winning it isn't even anything special, yet Rogue haven't even won it once. A random group of Korean solo queuers could win the league with a little bit of practice.

"it's not like sponsors are going to be less attracted to them due to their trash valorant team"
uhh, news flash, they will 100% be less attracted to sponsor a team/org who is pumping huge money into a team which loses in tier 2-3 tourneys with only triple digit viewership

"they only have room to grow"
so does literally every other team, and so far, almost every other team seems to be growing faster than them

"most fans... are only supporting one of the teams in the org"
Another reason why T1 roster sucks and they should disband to Korea. They have no big name in their roster. Steel? Almost a forgotten name by now. Sorry if you like him but it's the truth.

Rogue has not even come close to being successful in league? Hasn't even won their regional European championship even ONCE and got absolutely crapped on by Damwon Kia at both Worlds getting eliminated in groups.

League history aside, T1 is still T1. The name and reputation of the org is still their, regardless of who's managing it and where the team is located.

give more mod roles to respected members of the community like Vortexy :) they'll whip the baiters into shape quickly

Did you even try to read mine regarding viewership? T1 isn't going to get any franchising or money in the bank with the team they have in NA currently.

T1 is like the most respected org in Korea with their successes in League. They have a huge reputation in Korea and tens of millions of avid league fans around the world. By wasting loads of money sponsoring mediocre and uncompetitive teams garnering negligible viewership, it doesn't really live up to their standards and history of success in esports.

T1 is getting only a few hundred viewers at a time playing for these Tier 2-3 third party tournaments and losing in the first or second round. Playing in Korea VCT would easily net them 10-15k viewers easily if not more on the Korean and main English Valorant channels (plus whatever number watching from other Korean streaming platforms).

I get what you're saying but isn't their like passion/reputation involved in this too? Also, if I were T1 management, idk if I would like paying off huge sums of money to uncompetitive teams trying to finance operations abroad. And it's not like T1 even get that many viewers as long as they keep losing to average teams in third party Tier 2-3 tourneys, they definitely get less viewers there than Korean VCT streams on the Kr and main Valorant channels combined. (also I don't know why people are downvoting you, you're speaking logically)

number of mods ~ 3 or 4
number of baiters ~ ∞

get the picture now?

too cold up here for my brain to function properly

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well obviously the more teams there are, larger orgs, investment, etc. teams there will get better and the region will improve and thus warrant for more slots (instead of giving brazil basically 3 guaranteed spots in champions)

dang I just made a similar post

No cap but T1 should disband and rebuild in Korea where their org is based in. They are a relatively large and respected org and they can attract back a lot of top Korean players playing in Japan with their money and reputation. There are so many Korean players playing in Japan who I think are individually more skilled than many of those playing in their home region, putting them in an all-Korean team with easier teamwork/coordination without language barriers could easily make new top teams.

True but that doesn't mean all the other regions are equally crap. For example, Kr has already proven they are internationally competitive with a 3rd place finish by Nuturn, Drx oconvincingly beating top teams like Acend, and being statistically the 2nd best team in Berlin after being the only team to take maps off Gambit in playoff who were far and away the best team there, just unfortunate they met them in their first match of playoffs. On the contrary, regions like Brazil have been pretty miserable so far (with due respect).

You effectively just repeated what you said earlier. You're still saying they can't be considered as an actual contender unless they play teams like Loud. But what have Loud done to be worthy of title contention by being in top 8? Win in the statistically worst region without proving themselves to already established teams like Drx? Should be the other way around, not Drx desperately needing to prove themselves worthy by beating Loud who haven't achieved anything so far.

for brazil achievements? you'll die of age by then

for Brazil's loss to CR? kekw

beating top teams like Acend and being statistically the 2nd best team in Berlin after being the only team to take maps off Gambit in playoff who were far and away the best team there, just unfortunate they met them in their first match

Loud Achievements...

Eh...

Eh? Winning in the statistically worst region in the world?

W, only concrete facts and logic in my eyes

i'm sorry man :( unfortunate series of events for them out of their control, they'll come back stronger. pinky promise <3

you're already delegitimizing them because they faced supposedly 'weaker' teams

"we need to see them against LOUD" to confirm they are good?

what a hypocrite

how do we know Loud are even that good? All they've done is win in the statistically least successful region in the world. On the contrary, Loud need to prove themselves first by beating teams like Drx

I am :D

+36 round deferential in 4 maps 🥳

<3

cya m8te :)

DRX HYPE TRAIN :D

I've liked Zeta and rooted for them to win, but I'm gonna be 100% honest I don't think they would have won was it not for Fnatic's current situations. Yes they played well, but being realistic, I think it's more about Fnatic playing poorly and uncoordinated with 2 last minute subs than Zeta suddenly getting their acts together and clapping Fnatic.

great job by zeta... but I'm sure 2 last second subs still helps at least a tiny bit? also wdym by Fnatic won EMEA with 2 stand ins?

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EU casters were incomparably better than the NA casters who were bias af.

F in chat for Derke

ZETA META!

2 last minute subs, they tried their best. But WP Zeta.

lmfao 3-13??

huge round

lmao what petty excuses. EVERYONE has their best and worst maps. but I guess the 13-11 game in Haven should be ignored then as well since that was also Loud’s worst map kekw

“he was fixing things up”
Sounds literally like any other team trying to fix or improve something

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Shame logical people like you are often associated with chumps like Mca

ig emea teams don’t exist?

Still don’t see where this 100% ez win for loud logic comes from. 13-4 you say? Then drx seem even more likely to win over loud considering there were close 13-11 games between loud and nip.

Drx 2-0 nip with ease delusional Brazilian. Both teams defeated nip and convincingly showed they were the better teams, so idk how you can draw the conclusion that loud will crush drx 100%. They can definitely win, but not a guarantee the way you’re making it out to be.

DRX just steamrolled nip. Calm down kid on copium.

Loud can definitely win, but saying it’s a 100% guarantee is kind of delusional

W Brazilian role model right here.

Holy. Can you guys lower the copium dosage after getting steamrolled like that?

DRX hype train

Icebox was nip pick? Ez for drx :D

BlastX criminally underrated

Kru 2-1 Optic
Drx 2-0 NIP
FNC 2-0 Zeta

508 acs yeesh