Mfs talk about how he has been consistent since 2022 but I disagree, he’s not just consistent he’s actually steadily improved since 2022
In 2022 maybe he was a top 5 player alongside pancada Shao Suygetsu and yay, but in 2023 he was undeniably a top 3 player and now he’s arguably the best individual player
Somehow this mf is IMPROVING

Kiles is a champs winner
Let that sink in

Better to compare rating against the other players in the tournament that against other tournaments
For ah example, yay putting up the same rating in champs 2022 was far more impressive than tenz, but not necessarily more impressive than nats putting up like a 1.30 rating in Berlin

I’m not gonna lie brother that’s a reach, micro plays rarely make a huge difference in gameplay as opposed to overall map theory (like what parts of the map are important to control etc) which is dependent on when a map is released than overall time

Wdym by more prep time?

Exactly, they get grouped because a team gets a much easier win against them. That team that beat them may have gotten grouped if they weren’t attending.

Sure, but that still allows teams to make deep runs into tournaments. Even a top tier team having to constantly struggle vs good teams will burn out faster and give up more strats than if they are fed easy opponents.

Sorry I’m slow rn, why is champs more exhausting? Isn’t it more fair now that first seeds don’t get advantages?

Kinda yeah, he really lacked confidence, had a shit team, and didn’t really adapt well to the chamber meta or post nerf jett

Your first point is correct, but meta are defined by updates not by yearly cycles
Meta is always changing and teams will adapt, several champs have had agent/meta/map changes immediately before
But yeah I could see the team experience trumping team quality

Sure prize pool is greater in champs, but since champs has more teams attending, doesn’t the overall quality of teams attending decrease? A 12 team tournament only has the top 3 teams from each region, but a 16 team tourney could have the 4th best team from a region. This would mean that if you get lucky with draws you could face lower tier opponents and still make a good run. Wouldn’t this mean difficulty wise a masters has harder teams than champs?

His first prime started in late 2020 to around late 2021
His second prime started this year, and we will see how he does in champs

I aspire to be this level of delusional

Buddy change the flair already
Your eyes are watering from choking on it

Absolutely, stats do not show all impact and vlr stats are wonky, but still quite impressive to note

Tenz has 1.12 rating, below yay, narrate, Sayf, mako, chronicle, trexxx, cned, Shao, scream, cryocells and others

What? I’m using the stats tab and tenz does not show up all time number 1 bro

According to vlr, the all time highest rated tier 1 pro players are Leo at 1.22 rating followed by Aspas at 1.18 rating

Absolutely could be great and he is a smart player but he’s still an absolute monster of a player I want him to be unleashed and pop off without needing to call

Honestly gambit’s big 3 we’re always nats Chron and sheydos
But I don’t think nats needs to call if they can find some half decent caller

Sheydos fan u are spitting here
He was low key the best m3c member for most of 2022 as well

Chronicle back on sova and my goat sheydos popping tf off on one of the worst teams in Emea, I could cry 😢
Free nats please

Mada would be insane that mf is thanos in tier 2

He’s very consistent too, way more consistent than anyone else on his roster

He’s surprisingly underrated. Best Americas initiator? (At least in terms of fragging?)

Yeah the Alfajer Tokyo was insane, he did it on a sentinel agent as well

The game has been out for 4 years Brodie I’m not one esport or sport does one event or tournament count as a peak

So then asuna has a higher peak than tenz since he dropped 48 kills in a map, confirmed asuna >>> tenz

He was super consistent mostly, very good aimer with great positioning
What set him apart from all the other good players was consistency, he didn’t have as high peaks as jinggg or Aspas but he never ever played bad, went negative or anything

Reading comprehension broski he said across an entire year not a tournament

Mf talking about obsessed when u replied to every comment I made when I wasn’t even talking to u originally UR SO MAD PUSSY go to sleep and get FNS’s dick out ur throat ur choking on it

Also buddy u literally have a comment saying that while fns is a good igl still he doesn’t frag enough to be a top tier igl anymore
Are u schizophrenic by chance?

Are u fucking retarded
I literally believe angel is also a good igl
I literally said I agreed with u
Learn to read and go outside buddy I can smell u through my screen

Bro ur ego is massive buddy ur literally just a esports fan check urself 😂😂😂
U literally have no idea how much fns impacts or doesn’t impact the team, ur guessing based on NRG’s results
But hey if u believe angel is a good IGL then I understand ur logic

Bro ur literally just making shit up they got 26-15ed by g2, didn’t even take a map of sen and just choked 9 rounds in a row to cloud 9
Are u actually watching the games or are u just on clear typing
I can see ur past messages clearly u are just an fns fanboy

Nowhere did I say fns is shit, I think he’s a good igl still but NEEDS TO AGAIN PROVE HE IS WORTH THE MASSIVE FIREPOWER BOTTLENECK HE CREATES

Have a good day clearly ur too biased, do u still believe angel is a top igl then?

I get what ur saying about fns not having enough time to fix this roster, but u are mentally disabled if u believe that also believe they are objectively better than split 1, those two things are contradictory and are not backed up by results
They took a map off sentinels and nearly beat them 2-0 previously btw

Mf u don’t even know what objective means explain how nrg are better now that in split 1
They lost 3 Times and won 3 MAPS total rhis split

Yeah he is incredible

Subroza is worse than both and Sinatra hasn’t been pro in 4 years

Bro nowhere did I say fns was shit, I said he needs to prove himself again
U are objectively delusional, we are talking about fns in 2024, who gaf about him 2023
We as outsiders have literally no clue how much of an impact any igl has so most of our idea of top IGLs comes off of results and fns has not had stellar results considering his rosters in the last 2 years

Because yay and marved are both not as good as they were clearly
When they were insane, their fragging played a huge role in optics success, but fns igling gets overrated at times

Saadhak is the best igl of all time but he certainly isn’t the best igl itw right now and if u believe that u are living off nostalgia
U can’t call someone the best IGL in the world when they made one lan event in the year no matter how good they were in the past

2023 loud got a 2nd place in lock-in, won Americas league and top 3 in champs beating fnatic twice
Their 2023 was infinitely better than nrg

FNS had 3 of the statistical top 10 rated players in Americas league in 2023, went to Tokyo (once again with 2 of the top 10 highest rated players) and lost to a roster with a substitute player who was a streamer playing pro for his first time ever
He lost twice to the same team getting 4-0ed after narrowly beating zeta division
In 2024 since joining nrg they went from 5-4 under Ethan to 1-3
He is a good igl but people fanboy him blindly from 2022

Explain to me based off 2023 and 2024 why fns is the best igl in Americas

Crashies especially is so impactless

Bro they went from 5-4 from kickoff and stage 1 to 1-3 in stage 2 despite upgrading from marved to som

This is bait but seriously fns’s success comes mostly from having the most dominant player ever across a year (yay) and the best smokes player until that point (marved)
He’s gotten outcalled by forsaken with cgrs, bilibili twice as well

Som and Ethan are 100% championship material, low key best flex init and best smokes in Americas, they getting dragged down by this roster which is so sad

Fns needs to prove himself the best igl in the league again
He’s a top 3-4 igl but the majority of his success came with the most dominant player ever across a year (yay) and best smokes player ever until that point (marved)

Yeah lol nrg took a map off the best team itw at kickoff
Before fns they were 5-4 combined split 1 and kickoff
They are 1-3 since picking up fns and som (som clearly isn’t the issue)

Fns hasn’t played pro play in 6-7 months
Under fns, optic went to 3 grand finals and only won one
They threw a lead to prx in Tokyo
Lost back to back twice vs Bilibili
Had two map points vs loud in grand finals of champs on breeze and ascent (12-8, 12-11)
Threw after having map point on map v loud on fracture (12-10) in lock-in
I ain’t tryna say he’s shit but even though he’s good he bottlenecks their fragging by an enormous amount, the rest of the team needs to be good enough to justify it

Please get these two out of franchise
Som and Ethan , especially som are wasting their prime as we speak
Fns low key might have to go to when Ethan was igling nrg was shit but didn’t throw leads like this

U tell him bronzil enjoyer