Please don’t crash out on my thread sir, it was only a bit of fun! 😰

Got my intended target (Cacachoclat)

Don’t be mad mr. N1cf, I’m rooting for Emea to shake things up!

Reminder that Emea’s last international win was June 2023. Can they make it happen in Bangkok or will they fail for the second year in a row??? Can’t wait to find out!!!

I’d say primmies aim is better but Aspas over all mechanics (movement, strafe aim, aim with operator/snipers) is better

Prime yay is just diffy 😭

Your falling into the trap of thinking that since last years best Emea teams look weaker, the region looks weaker as if new talent cannot surprise, such as geng last year

Madrid was more boring imo, if u weren’t a sen fan
Fnatic g2 and lev didn’t make it, th had a sub, prx essentially had a sub, fewer teams

My goat saebr 😍

His raze is nearly as good as his Jett, the baiting narrative absolutely has to stop. Derke might be fearless but he farms ecos way more than Aspas so whose really the more impactful player?

With all due respect, the first point is complete bullshit

Me me me me

Sentinels in form could make a decent run, as could mibr. But also, Kru/Loud could also easily beat any of these teams except g2 and could make an international as well.

I always thought top heavy was more so how bad the 4th place team could be, essentially how hard it is for a team to make an intl tourney from the region
The fact that talon made 4th in kickoff and made champs last year leads me to believe that other than the top 2/3 teams in apac, all the rest are quite easy to beat

Sylvan was illl today I heard

How can you be weaker overall but not top heavy? That would mean the top teams of pacific are worse, which is clearly not true from geng’s past performances

True, but less too heavy imo, especially as the season goes in
Kru and mibr just had an incredibly close game that either could have won, and loud vs sentinels was also close

Patitek was a fantastic player, who they had more experience with than woot, not to mention they still choked even with woot. They had 4 chances to win a trophy and didn’t, there’s no way u actually believe they are the best team of 2024

Their best teams are obviously as good as the best Amer and Emea teams, but my god are both regions soooooo top heavy

Choked against fnatic regionally being up 2-0, got destroyed by KC at kickoff regionally, got third place regionally in stage 2, choked in the grand finals against geng, choked again against edg

Yeah these mfs didn’t win a single trophy in 2024

How are they most consistent? They had 2 second places and got grouped once, while geng got grouped but had a second place and a win. Geng also did better regionally than heretic iirc. You can’t be the most consistent if you don’t win anything.

Who’s the best team of 2024? They had a 2nd place and a masters win

I remember watching bro fanboy over tenz haha, he has a stupid amount of potential

Geng (the best team of 2024) randomly wakes up against them? Even with the player changes I feel like this is more like avg geng than the version we’ve seen recently

Brother look at his team wtf do you think this guy is jesus or smth?

It’s actually really hard to say. Zekken is a bit inconsistent, texture too i thought overperformed in 2024 and he’s proving it this year( though he’s still fantastic, just a bi inconsistent). I’d probably say texture for rn, but I’m not really sure.

Man was talking about how shit his own players were and somehow this bum still has a job????

Nah governor is a main duelist, he’s just legitimately shit and probably doesn’t belong on a tier 2 team let alone a tier 1 roster

I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s better than something yet, something’s had to deal with not even playing his best role half the time and he’s still usually prx best player
He would be a great fit elsewhere if he is confident in his English

However if he learns sentinel get jinggg out of prx right NEOW

All jokes aside the dude is being ruined by some of the worst tier 1 players alive (other than jitboys)
Could be an mvp candidate on a half decent team, the only reason this team is winning maps is cause of him

He was a bottom of the barrel tier 2 duelist, I got no idea what he’s doing in tier 1

I mean he playing great all tournament long but your on his dick after one bad map

I think Jawgemo is ridiculously overrated too
He’s a bit difference since he plays all duelist well and is selfless, so he’s a very valuable player but he’s certainly not the best player or duelist in the world or even top 3 like people are claiming.
Unlike demon1 though, I do believe he will probably be top 3 on duelist inside Americas (or too 5 at least)

Korean less about to put in a masterclass dw

Overperformed tremendously at champs, got glazed to high hell
Even right now people are still overrating him
Wont be considered a top 5 duelist Americas by the end of 2025 imo

Moving like prime yay, for his sake I hope riot don’t nuke Tejo

Absolutely, they are setup to take duels with utility and often encouraged to get eco kills. Another reason why I was mad that chichoo didnt get mvp after a career tournament.

You right, u just know once kk plays to actual level (which is still great) his own fans gonna call him washed and hate on him, like they did to demon1 after hyping him following his life performance at champs

We aren’t talking about achievements we are talking about individual skill. Derke and Aspas earned their praise the hardest through years of top tier performances, kang kang has been far shakier and has only two good tournaments.

Finally, if before the grand finals not one singular person considered him the best player itw, I don’t care how insane your performance is, ONE MATCH cannot make you the greatest of all time. If kang kang puts up crazy number for 2025, I’ll change my opinion.

Mf won a tournament, where for the most part the best performers where chichoo and smoggy and instantly got put in goat conversations
Valorant fans have the worst case of recency bias I’ve ever seen

Aspas, derke, jinggg, something, demon1/Jawgemo were undeniably better than him in 2023

Nah man he got grouped at Shanghai and had a 0.91 kd, barely had a 1kd at champs 2023 (chichoo outperformed him), was 9th ranked at Madrid by rating and was outperformed by miniboo who got grouped, his only actually impressive performances are Tokyo and champs (during which he had just above a 1 rating outside of the grand finals)

Biggest aura merchant in the scene tbh

Imma start hating edg at this point dawg KK has had 2 actually stand out tournaments, how the fuck can he be the goat? There’s was like 5 better duelist in 2023, and you can argue at least texture (and arguably Aspas) were individually better last year. You can’t be the goat if you aren’t at least top 3 likes 3-4 years in a row like Aspas and derke

Put narrate on fade all 3 maps and ur good

Idk how the fuck he got two the stinger after missing his knives and whiffing half the clip

Jawgemo (as an EG fan) is no where near Aspas

Him on g2 would be crazy but I love what he’s doing on the mibr project, Brazil already lost saadhak sacy and less, let’s not just take away all of their talent and then criticize their teams

Aspas, sen 2022 are no where near the level of kru

But took and WON the most first duels in the server
People seriously telling me he has no impact after seeing how mibr is one game away from Bangkok and how leviathan fell off after he left

Split omen one ways