Also people thinking they know more than a franchised pro
It is a complete difference between watching games and actually playing against teams and analyzing teams with professional coaches

I’ve heard really good teams sometimes anti start specific players
It prolly happens more with duelist but wouldn’t be surprised if sentinel noted Lesa’s tendencies and used it against him

The reason he used to be shit was cause one of his hands had limited mobility due to a car accident, and recently he fully gained mobility
Ever since that he’s been frying

It’s really annoying on defense but it isn’t that bad compared to breeze (retake simulator)

All the original maps are so good
I miss haven bruh that shit is so fun

Remove lotus and sunset while ur at it please
Bring back fucking haven

Haven
Ascent
Icebox
Pearl
Split
Bind
Sunset (I’m just good at it it’s a shit map)

Mako might be the goat, not as high peak as pancada or marved but unbelievably consistent

How is tenz so uncoordinated 😭

It’s okay brotha it’s just the first tourney of the year

He’s so angry 😂😂😂🙄

It’s more likely the deciding factor between two good teams is their preparation, antistrstting, and improvements to map pools lol

Explain why

Tenz >= tuyz
Cauanzin > sacy
Saadhak > Johnqt (igl)
Saadhak >= zellsis
Zekken >>>> qck
Less >> Johnqt (sentinel)

Tbh this shit doesn’t really matter outside of duelists (first bloods)
But tenz is slightly better than tuyz, cauaun isn’t that much better that sacy in this tourney
Saadhak should be compared to Johnqt not zellsis, and less is not like 50 times better than John qt brotha

Winning lock-in is still an achievement, regardless of whether you believe it isn’t
To me being able to win it back to back with a masters is more impressive than winning champs, but clearly you disagree
We aren’t getting anywhere with this so let’s just agree to disagree

EG got 13-3ed on lotus when the played the first time. You could certainly argue that loud were more dominant against fnc than fnc against loud, but EG won one map after playing 6. Regardless of the closeness, it is still dominant.

So be able to play well in one international tournament and winning it is more impressive than doing it in 2?

The goat 🐐

Berlin’s top 4 was equal Emea and equal na, Emea won that tourney, making them the best region. In champs, not a single na team was in playoffs. Ascend 2-0ed Envy, liquid beat sentinels, and liquid 2-0ed cloud9. So how exactly were Emea not the best region in 2021?

Ultimately trophies are just trophies, it’s more impressive to be the best team for a longer period of time
U can call champs trophies more impressive than 2 trophies but fnatic were the best team from São Paulo to when the lost to loud in champs

Optic didn’t win a single regional title in all of 2022
Loud won champs and champs is more important than master right

And EG got embarrassed by fnatic twice in Tokyo, won 2 trophies that year as well. Champs trophy might be more valuable than a masters trophy, but 2 trophies is still more impressive because they were on top of valo for longer

Trust me no pro or remotely intelligent person thinks that fnatic wasn’t the best team of 2023.

By your same logic loud was better than optic in 2022, no?

EG, who placed top 16 at lock-in, 3rd in Americas, 2nd in Tokyo, and 1st at champs was better than fnatic who placed 1st in lock-in, 1st in Emea, 1st in Tokyo, and 4th in champs? EG was the best team itw at the end of 2023, not the best team of 2023

That’s just cap they were the best in 2021 bro not a single na team beat them in champs, no need for revisionist history

Damn that sucks
Pretty sure trexxx said he prefers init to duelist anyways so chances are he will be sticking to init as well

He’s not wrong they are braindead, but they are good enough to make it work
I really hope that alecks has a long talk with something especially

Vit with trexx have a lot of potential, I just hope that Sayf plays duelist

Isn’t Shanghai 12 teams? Unless china only gets 2?

I can’t decide whether I want Americas to win so Emea can no longer flex lock-in or apac to win cause first trophy
Prolly apac

I don’t mind 8 teams but kickoff playoffs needed to have a lower bracket

Nah it has to do with the fact when Emea was on top u had people creating racial/genetic superiority threads

What are you yapping about
He’s the only saving grace for kc

Goat, 2nd best prx player
Top 10 player itw

Yeah prx are always better on t side, and their comp with raze is defo quite t sided
It’s winnable with a pistol, but kc are favored
Worst part is prx could have had an 8-4 half but no they had to throw a 5v4 eco round

He’s so shit bro man gets one kill then starts getting horny

Please do brother my heart can’t take this anymore

Needs to get fined after this match for the number of over peeks

I thought he was only 5’11? He seems the same height as tenz

Nah marved now sure but in 2022 bro looked like a kpop idol

Some people are just never meant for certain roles ig
Even when kc was winning he looked mid, you can tell it’s wrong role for him

It’s because they took one of the best Emea tier 2 duelists and put him on smokes

Icl even with that map has a 0.79 rating on raze in ELEVEN maps 😭

I don’t usually root for them lol, when they overpeek I’m usually the one happy

I hate supporting prx they troll so much
Why do these mfs overpeek advantage rounds so much

If ur Americas cheer for prx we need to see apac get a trophy and we need to see EMEAstans in shambles

It’s avg na fan
He’s a special breed

In intl tourney for sure gang gang

Yeah crowds very dead, but remember that we don’t usually get group stage crowds so we will see in playoffs

Lock-in was a bit of a fluke (11-3), but Tokyo wasn’t
Fnatic still insane, lock-in just not as impressive as a normal masters