Just pick up xavi8k and put Patmen on starter. Drop Jingg and Something and all your roles work out until you can rebuild in 2027 when you can grab Juicy, Kushy, and Grumble as free agents.
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Just pick up xavi8k and put Patmen on starter. Drop Jingg and Something and all your roles work out until you can rebuild in 2027 when you can grab Juicy, Kushy, and Grumble as free agents.
PRX should:
Forsaken | Duelist
xavi8k | Initiator
Patmen | Flex
Mindfreak | Smokes
D4v41 | Sentinel/Viper
It would be awesome if they could also plan for 2027 with a rebuild once Grumble is done with NS and Juicy and Kushy become free agents. I’d love to see:
Juicy | Duelist
Kushy | Initiator
Forsaken | Flex
Mindfreak | Smokes
Grumble | Sentinel
Outer Wilds
Elden Ring
Hollow Knight
Between Furia and EG it seems.
Hard to say given I’d choose them for different reasons.
Aspas is undoubtably a fragging machine but he takes minimal individual risk with a smaller agent pool but unmatched duel conversions. Jawgemo is the opposite and his impact usually shows in terms of hyper-aggro space creation and agent flexibility.
I’d rank those two in 1st and 2nd right now and the rest in a similar category — without a truly unique value proposition over their peers.
9th and 10th probably go to Mada and Hyunmin as the top of the next generation of duelists.
Oh they’re definitely more flexible than PRX. I just have more faith that G2 and EDG will maintain dominance in their respective regions than T1 will in Pacific. Tbh, I’m still unconvinced by that Bangkok GF and think G2 would be favored 7/10 times if you ran it back — I’m definitely biased but there’s some truth to it.
They’re too scrappy.
In my opinion, Bangkok was their peak performance while their floor tends to be far shakier with the majority of their matches being 2-1’s. The further the season and meta develops, the more teams will catch up with cleaner protocols and macro. Double duelist will undoubtably fall to the wayside as more utility protocols develop to suffocate burst-heavy teams — it’s the same paradigm PRX faced going into 2024.
I hope I’m wrong and T1 maintains their form but I’m skeptical.
T1 is gonna end up like Acend in the history books.
I genuinely think Toronto is a lock for G2. You don’t get that close to a trophy and not become the hungriest team in the league — especially when you’re known for being grinders.
Dark Horses would be Nongshim and Loud.
Hope to see y’all back again in Toronto.
Except the core decided to stay together through T2 instead of accepting franchised offers and Jawgemo has made it clear he thinks they’re the best team he could play with.
The players clearly care about long term consistency over short term monetary benefits.
As long as they make champs (or place higher than 2G if they both qualify), then they’re in the league again. The worse ascension team will have to defend their spot in Ascension if they make top 8 in league — if they do worse then they’re auto-relegated.
If G2 win Bangkok, they start the season with 8 champs points and would have to absolutely toss every game for the next two splits to miss champs.
Except he could also play Raze. I honestly think with how much the TGRD core developed, Tex could look like a Keznit-level player if he had stayed on duelist.
Hard to say where to rank him nowadays but he had the highest FK/FD at Ascension by a mile and regularly matched Oxy, Koalanoob, and N4rrate in regional matchups in T2. He had clean entries and pretty much opened up rounds for Trent to farm and close out maps — good pathing and duel isolation.
Are T1 actually good or did they just beat teams that G2 mentally boomed for them?
If T1 pick Lotus first then this could legitimately end in a 3-0. The Raze, Iso, Sova is just weaker than the Yoru, Tejo, Breach comp.
Support the team you like. Doesn’t matter if they win or not. I’ve been repping G2 since they ascended because I followed them in 2022 — they always had potential but it was tough seeing them bomb out and then miss franchising. Even 2024 was pretty rough since they managed to lose both regional trophies and there was constant talk about who the problem was.
Stick it out and I’m sure your favorite team will accomplish something eventually. Hell, MIBR picked up Aspas and DFM crushed PRX and it’s only the start of 2025.
More likely that G2 wins both Bangkok and Toronto than 100T making it to a GF this year.
I don’t think G2 loses with double map veto.
They remove Fracture and Haven/opponent’s best map and are favored on Abyss, Lotus, Pearl, and Split — with their Bind now fixed. They also get a day of prep while the challenger has to worry about getting eliminated in 15 hours.
The only way it goes awry is if they’re not in form since it seems they’re not the chokers everyone claims.
G2 are heavy favorites on
Abyss | Lotus | Pearl
And a light favorite on:
Split
Don’t let that close scoreline from Map 1 of the first G2/EDG match fool you. It’s not even close if G2 get a single pistol on Pearl. They’re just so much better on rifle rounds on almost every map they’ve played.
Toss up:
Bind
Likely bans: Fracture | Haven
This version of G2 would probably take every trophy last year ngl
Eh, most of us are TGRD fans who changed our flairs for 2024 after G2 picked up the core.
For times like these. Gonna watch these VODs with so much glee HEHEHEHEHEHE
You get a similar effect with Tejo + Breach except it frees up a slot for Vyse.
JonahP is a better support player than Kicks and is more flexible. Everything else looks good to me.
G2 are likely favored for the rematch since it’s physically impossible to get a worse pistol record than what they got last series and they’re one of the best anti-stratting teams.
I expect them to double ban Fracture and Haven and be favored on Abyss, Lotus, and Pearl. They’ve changed comps on Bind (they prac’d both early on apparently) and it should be closer while EDG takes Split.
W comeback. G2 starting 0-3 down on both halves and still shredding the rifle rounds with their ult cycles to pull it into OT.
Nobody, Valyn, and Munchkin are the only consistent top tier fragging IGLs in both metrics.
Players like Nats, Mako, KiNgg, and Sayf have more to prove on the IGLing department while historic IGLs like Boostio, Johnqt, Boo, Saadhak and Stax tend to be individually inconsistent.
Yep. You don’t change your comps on three different maps (as far as we’ve seen) Split, Fracture, and Pearl without extra prep time.
Tbf they lost both pistols, a bonus and a 1v4 and still won Pearl. Give them credit where it’s due — most teams would not convert those anti-ecos. Even Bind wasn’t that bad given they weren’t favored and again lost both pistols.
I genuinely think they still have the best Abyss, Lotus, and Pearl (lost both pistols, a bonus, and a 1v4) but still converted in OT). Their map pool looks shakey now though given their only Split showing was rough (SEN’s best map) and their Haven is likely weaker than EDG’s.
I’m not too worried about the other 4 teams but G2 needs to fix their attack side adjustments on ult-cycle heavy maps (Bind, Fracture, Haven) and clean up their pistols. They’ve got a day to self review before having to prep for their next opponent and then 2 days to prep for playoffs after. I think this loss was perfectly timed for them as long as they’re resilient enough to bounce back.
The better team today won. Glad to have VOD footage to fix our maps but damn that pistol record was atrocious. Looking forward to a rematch in playoffs
If G2 wins a single pistol this map isn’t close.
How do you win both pistols, a bonus, a 1v4 and still lose the map?
Consistent, good practice.
If you practice your mechanics routine regularly and mindfully with optimal form, then it’ll become ingrained. It’s not about how much you do it but about the quality of the practice itself. While some high level skills like animation prediction (movement reading), optimized pathing, and agent mastery only come with more hours played, mechanics are about minimizing server time when you’re in bad form to keep yourself from building bad habits.
All those top pros run drills and scrims to apply proper theory from their coaches but often individually limit-test in comp where stakes are low. Comp tends to be a very low stress environment relative to their actual jobs and is often an opportunity to test out new ideas or attempt plays without any pressure.
Edit: added “movement reading” as it’s the more commonly used term
The core beat Optic for Stage 1 in 2022 for 1st seed going into Reykjavik. They also took the ascension trophy in 2023. This is their first franchised Regional though. Jawgemo of course has the 2023 Champs.
It’s not gonna happen because NA is gonna win all their matches and EMEA will be the first ones eliminated rip.
I don’t have exact stats but it’s well known that it’s much easier for teams to have successful attack halves because of prepped site executes and post-plant utility. This is especially the case now with the introduction of Tejo and Vyse who are great at disruption and anti-flood utility.
The map pool reflects this too with Lotus, Haven, Fracture, Abyss, and Pearl all being attack sided. Split is the only exception and Bind is a bit more even.
That VIT vs. TH Haven map gave me this initial inkling and the current SEN vs. MIBR match is the same. Momentum swings to whoever is attacking.
My take is that whichever team has the strongest defense halves will likely take Bangkok.
They’ve banned different maps for all their matches.
G2 vs C9
Haven | Fracture | Lotus | Abyss | Bind | Pearl | Split
G2 vs Lev
Haven | Bind | Pearl | Fracture | Lotus | Split | Abyss
G2 vs SEN
Lotus | Split | Abyss | Pearl | Haven | Bind | Fracture
They don’t have a Permaban but they definitely have map preferences. Personally, I’m surprised they’ve banned Lotus twice now when they looked so good against C9 with it. Below is my extrapolated list for their map confidence.
I would but they 2-0’d Furia and could have potentially taken LOUD to map 3 had that first OT went their way.
G2 are so good that they’re making every other Americas’ team look bad. It’s like throwing a top Champs seed into kickoff where everyone else has to integrate new players and adapt to the meta.
They were already the most coordinated team but now they’re all on form and have Jawgemo as their spearhead. Their read on the meta, with heavy Yoru, Tejo/Sova+Breach, Vyse, and Chamber usage is also super suffocating to play against. It’s some combination of disruptive utility chains and proactive re-clears that make them disgusting on defense — the harder half for most teams. Their attack side on the other hand, heavily prioritizes strong defaults with exhaustive mixups and unstoppable executes. Expect them to average 8 rounds on attack this meta.
I would say only VIT/TH and EDG could possibly match them for firepower but they’ve all looked far more shaky and inconsistent against weaker regional opponents. They undoubtably rely more on pure mechanics with numbers instead of utility abuse and map manipulation. The macro seems lacking compared to when you watch G2’s approach.
G2
— Tier Break —
SEN | MIBR | KRU | LOUD | 100T | LEV | C9 | NRG | EG
— Tier Break —
Furia | 2G
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