There’s a ton of world class Duelists, Initiators, Controllers, and Sentinels. There aren’t many world class IGLs.
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There’s a ton of world class Duelists, Initiators, Controllers, and Sentinels. There aren’t many world class IGLs.
Even if you’re hate watching them, you’ve gotta admit G2 games are insanely entertaining to watch.
Their stinger rounds must be a nightmare to play against. You can never be quite sure when they’re gonna force and they will absolutely disrespect you with those laser beams jfc
It’s crazy how much y’all are doubting G2. They lost to SEN by the slimmest margin possible — 2 round differential on the last two maps and mostly because of extremely good Anti-stratting on Ascent. I wouldn’t be surprised if they still take first seed.
They’re gonna have a full month to cook and come into Toronto fresh. By contrast, the EMEA teams will only have 2 weeks so I’m not sure why y’all are hyping TH so heavily on their current form. Don’t forget that they also have to fly over early and acclimate through Jet lag while the Americas teams will have home field advantage. JonahP is likely the only Canadian to attend (though I’m cheering for NAVI) and G2 will be crowd favorites.
I’m looking forward to the G2 vs. TH rematch in the GF where one of them finally break the 2nd Place curse.
Yeah, they played their hearts out at Bangkok. Even though G2 look shaky rn, it’s incredible how they make every round look dangerous even when they’re behind or have worse guns.
It’s an open field. Just watch every match and figured it out alongside the rest of us
Yeah he had a rough year in 2024 but he was lauded as one of the hottest upcoming talents in 2022 and was the best Ascension Player in 2023. A single bad year doesn’t all of a sudden make him a bot.
If that was the case, then T3xture would have been dumped into T2 after his stint in GE.
You guys are filthy good. I’ll be cheering you on Split 2!
He’s 40/144 for clutches this year so far or a 28% success rate. Actually disgusting
That’s a more a symptom of how much the team structure struggled with an inconsistent entry. Trent has already proven he frags better when the team plays at a faster tempo. If you just look at his Sova stats from this year, he was the best at KickOff and Bangkok and those stats are pretty 1:1 with his Tejo.
Hard to give advice when I don’t know what your main issues are. My general advice would be to VOD review and identify decisions you make that cost you advantages. Try to adopt a mindset that you could have done something different to change the outcome of the round — if you find yourself blaming teammates, you don’t deserve to climb.
Leo and Alfa have only truly been internationally relevant for a single year. Leo is still unmatched in his role but Alfa has been less impactful compared to someone like Mako.
HM: KK, Alfajer, Yay, Demon1, Nats
Not in any particular order and you can for sure swap some
Aspas
Trent
Miniboo
Zekken
Jemkin
Rarga
Keiko
Verno
T3xture
Wo0t
Jawg seems the most proven right now. There are other players with better ratings but with fewer rounds and less important matches. My guy ran it on every map of the Bangkok GF sheesh
My guys at G2 because nobody deserves the TH treatment. Ideally they beat T1 for redemption and a new Optic/LOUD rivalry.
I don’t know man. We still gotta get past EG. I’m not underestimating anyone any more God damn
JonahP is in bad form rn but watch those Shanghai VODs and you’d think he’s better than Chronicle. Plus he tends to be an assist leader among flex players. Cut him some slack
Lukewarm at best.
Split 1 has only proven that the gap is negligible between the top 3 teams now. It’s very plausible G2 are the best but it’s not by much.
Seeding isn’t done. G2 could still be 1st seed by the end of playoffs.
TGRD fan here! I’d argue that SEN has far more bandwagoners given you're all mostly casual viewers
G2 are going to abuse you guys so hard to vent their frustration from this game. o7
To be fair, TH fans were no different last year. It’s not team specific, just fans that are coping.
Dude have some class. Every team loses eventually
No team “deserves” anything. SEN were better today, it’s that simple. You can cry that maybe G2 are better the majority of day, but certainly not today.
Kudos to the SEN players. Happy y’all look competitive.
God you fans are insufferable though — that comeback had you pissing your collective pants
He had to use the restroom. That’s why he was whiffing
After this showing from Jawg? no.
Best in class. Puts pressure on teams to not go for Fpx buys (3 rifles and 2 pistols) because they can get run over.
He cooked so hard with the reposition and fumbled. Made up for it with the stinger force though
That’s a good take. I think having the better movement is stronger when your role requires you to explosively take space though. It’s why Jawg makes every agent he play look like a duelist.
I think G2 would still be fine after Tejo nerfs cuz Harbor buffs would be coming soon after.
Trent is a certified Odin abuser and will be fine on Sova/Fade/Gekko.
I appreciate your level headed takes dude but I’m biased for my boys at G2 for a good reason. They’re just better
I wanna see the return of Trent Raze man.
Leaf and nats take the most calculated duels out of all active players rn.
Jawgemo
Leo
Chronicle
Valyn
Chichoo
Chose Jawg cuz I can use him like a dog and have the rest of the team clean up while Aspas would never agree to ruin his stats like that.
The record in VCT against G2 is 0-4 for Sen. Soon to be 0-5 and possibly even 0-6 if you guys reach the GF.
0/6 on pistols will do that to you
Pacific has the most A/B tier teams but no dominant standout. It’s great for the health of the region but it’s also the reason why you think they’re overrated.
You’re conflating Sen fans with all NA fans. Sure the former rarely know ball but it was undeniable that G2 looked like heavy favorites across every region at Bangkok.
TH does look good right now but the other top teams initially regressed going into Split 1 due to roster changes. Contrast this to the Americas teams that are consistently improving by the week against a still dominant G2.
It’s hard to compare the relative strength between mid table teams across regions so it should be fun to see who ends up actually qualifying to Toronto.
Because I specifically referred to JonahP. His individual form has been on a downward trend since Shanghai. If he starts trending back up and clutching like he used to, then G2 won’t look anywhere near as shaky. Keep in mind that he should be trading off his teammates based on his role but recently he’s dropping double digit negatives more often than going positive. Dude just isn’t converting duels like he used to.
Trent is good for fragging as much on Raze and Viper as he is on Sova. At the same time, JonahP has a pretty decent Sova but he’s not really in form rn. You might not agree but it’s an interesting proposition to try Trent on Iso.
You sure got me by meeting my well thought out response with an ad hominem
Nothing insane about it. I think they cooked too hard on Haven and the Vyse is just weaker than Cypher for defensive defaults while the Yoru isn’t good enough as a solo entry. If they pick up the FNC comp with Leaf on Iso or go for a Neon/Cypher pairing then they’ll be fine.
Their Fracture definitely needs a stylistic approach change but the Waylay could work with more practice.
Edit: for Haven it might actually be better to have Leaf on Cypher and put Trent on Iso with JonahP on Sova. That way all your best aimers are on fragging roles.
It’s true that G2 don’t look as dominant as they did before that Bangkok GF but they’re still 5-0 while shaky. If JonahP regains individual form and they clean up their pistols — most of their matches would look like that NRG one except against the other top 4 teams itw.
G2 absolutely have weaknesses on Fracture and Haven that they need to rework for sure though. I agree the gap is shrinking but they’re still a cut above right now.
Why are you rating EDG so highly? They lost to regional competition in NOVA and XLG — they’re not even guaranteed to win against BLG to qualify.
T1 looks just as shaky too tbh. I could see them missing out if they get unlucky and get upset in the lowers after losing to DRX in Round 1.
I’d personally give MIBR a bit more credit since they’re looking like heavy favorites for America’s second seed.
The hopium for NRG and PRX is actually obscene though. Neither of these teams are surviving their knockout match.
You can always find historic examples of teams pulling out niche Yorus alongside another duelist whether on Bind, Breeze, Pearl, Split, etc. G2 are the first team that are successfully running SOLO Yoru on the majority of maps though and it only works because their utility usage and surplus from Tejo + Flash Initiator is clinical.