which one is more underwhelming

i wouldnt be opposed to -governor -ban +leviathan +ptc/cgrs

actually i would welcome that change with open arms

bruh they didnt even have enough to keep kaajak

i didnt know edg could ball like that, still not better than trace but damn they packing some heat

by who bruh

boaster ange1 fns numbers out here damn

bro put up 0.08 against th

idk that it could even go that low what the hell man

your gx flair looks weird

w take tho

take that shit flair off tho

ay xeppaa not horrible for now

i wouldnt go that far either, asuna was very good at times, but cryo, eeiu, and bang were different beasts. really everyone on that team could fire

Stew was a different animal tho, only cn duelist that could look prime kk in the eyes

Controllers need smokes, sages wall is less for blocking vision and more for blocking movement

The point of a controller is to provide smokes, as well as secondary util

The point of a senti is to provide stopping power and hold space, either through passive info, traps, or walls.

Sages slows and wall helps her to maintain space, but unlike a controller doesn’t allow her to deny enemies from it, unless you’ve already taken it

In summary a controller uses smokes primarily to deny an enemy from entering a space that wants to be taken, whereas a senti uses util to hold off enemies from a space that belongs to your team

Kickoff barely started bud

Lowk would go hard but Beyn has more firepower so idk

Maybe -free1ng +Lakia but he is their igl

Buddy losing a close game 2-1 where both teams looked on point is not getting humbled

Sage isn’t a senti?

Ok viper isn’t a controller, Reyna and iso aren’t duelists, phoenix is an initiator, tejo doesn’t even have a class, and omen is every single class

Classes exist not as a set of rules, but as a general set of ideals of playstyles

Asuna is literally good again, hasn’t been consistently shit since 2023

Y’all hating man

Sign vanity, unsign him, sign him again, unsignhim, resign him again, kick him and make him retire

In blue we trust ☁️9️⃣💙🥶

Only person more unemployed than vexbolts is a sen flair

no longer mxs? kinda funny that there are 2 sr teams in vcna

edit: I liked the moist name and whole baseball theme, sucks now that we have two teams with the same black edgy esports logo

its a hot take? thats the whole point

1 round doesnt make or break a team

buddy its a hot take thats the point

0%-ok fair but only for duelist really
10%-its not his role, hes just hella inconsistent, but prob just igls better on non senti
20%- yeah valid
30%- only if they have the same amount of slots as they do now but yes
40%- they shouldve kept both, thinking of cutting either was the incorrect decision
50%-nostalgia hits us all
60%-yes 100% agree
70%-this should be at 10%
80%-idk top three but upper half sure
90%-depends, davai and mindfreak i think are better off on prx but all the others are individually good enough where they would excel on any team
100%-idk about more, maybe the same amount of success but even as someone who doesnt glaze tf out of leo he still did numbers for fnc

15%-Loud 22 was the best team ever, and if they stayed together in 2023 they would have won at least 2 lans
30%-Forsaken is a top level duelist and flex, goat consideration if he wins something
40%-Marved was better than yay, yay just got fed all the resources and util to perform
50%-Cned is a top level emea duelist, people just associate him with his Jett only days
60%-Ge are going to excel this year, the Filipinos are good
75%-Gc allocates too many resources from riot for what little it offers, and should just be a subsection of t2 rather than a cash sink that people don’t really care about
100%-Leo is hella overrated. Sure he’s a good player but even in 2023 I always thought Alfa looked better in most games. Leo is on the same level as cloud or trexx imo, and I really don’t expect him to wow anyone if he comes back

He was good as well before 2023, but people forget 2023 leaf Jett was going toe to toe with aspas

Underrated but prx egoist/xccurate

Bro I forgot about this lol

Gotta love koi demon1

Prx may not win this year but they look a lot better this year

Jingg is the best raze, phoenix, and is playing senti at a high level

I stg everyone adored him after 2023 champs, the switch up is crazy

they invented the meta

holy unemployment

bonecold was him with the sherif, the most aim intensive gun

who do you main

why was loud 22 the best valo team to ever play

drg aspas

where does this aspas baiter narrative come from

not related, just saying ik ball

the people dont listen

nova aspas

i would say fnc 2023 was really close, other than boaster

leo kinda unarguably one of the best initi, alfa same case, chron was one of the most versatile flex that could still shoot, derke maybe wasnt aspas but he was up there

it was really only boaster

messiah

anyways 2025 champs gf is gonna be ge 3-2 loud mark my words

why not

bro hasnt watched 100t play

all should ideally be the best, but team chem/strats/in game awareness will beat out good aim any day

i mean a duelist shouldnt consistently be the last one alive, bc that means that the team doesnt have him as entry and dies. controller i agree you cant really measure most of the value of smokes is qualitative

he relies on his team to set him up a lot/follow up on entries so when sen struggle as a team zekken doesnt have the resources to excel

oxy on the other hand

forsaken jingg and something clear him

only reason jingg gets hate is bc whenever prx doesnt do well their delusional fanbase needs someone to attack

jingg best raze, something top 5 jett oat/top reyna oat, forsaken top 2 flex oat

Edit: Y’all hating on me like I’m not right. I’m not saying Davai is bad, or that prx are gonna win anything, they have their own issues. You have to admit tho that Jung is still a world class player on both raze/phx and senti

Also something is a top mechanical aimer, maybe not the best in game but aim wise at the level of demon1/oxy

better be stellar or imma 808

rating is not a very good factor for measurement bc it completely denies role importance

an initiator should get more priority for assists, a senti should get more priority from staying alive, a duelist should get more priority for fk, and a smokes should get more priority for space denied/util used (idk how to measure this one)

youre delusional if you dont think so

I literally made a post talking about the future of valo comps, and how senti was overrated

here we are, yet again i stand correct

also i knew trace would beat edg and guess what happened